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Post by gimmesugar on Feb 15, 2018 12:59:04 GMT -6
piratecat I need to try these again. DS is getting better with his pincer grasp and actively chews (and makes exaggerated chewing sounds) lol. I think daycare has been working on that with him.
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Post by moutonrouge on Mar 13, 2018 12:17:31 GMT -6
DD is having some issues with choking, and I'm having trouble telling if this is normal or not. We have a pedi appointment tomorrow anyway, so I will ask her doctor about it as well.
The preface to this is that DH has a serious fear of choking, and he is just a huge ball of anxiety and emotions when he sits with DD while she is eating. He is so worked up about everything - how big of bites she's taking, how often she puts food in her mouth, every little sound or face she makes, etc. So he is freaking out and thinks we need to only give her purees because there's something really wrong.
DD has choked three times in the last 2 weeks - twice I think the foods weren't appropriate (we were eating out on both occasions, and I think I just gave her stuff that was too advanced), and once I think she took too big a bite and since it was a soft food tried to swallow without chewing properly. The first two times, with the inappropriate foods, she seemed unphased and tried to keep eating. The third time she did cry. Each time, a whack on the back gets the food up and it has turned out fine in a matter of seconds. I think she is choking and not gagging, though.
I know there are some physical reasons why this might be happening, and I'll ask the doctor about those kinds of things. I have also tried to show DD how to take small bites and chew, and I praise her when she does a good job. But I'm not sure what else to do. I'm also trying to assure DH this happens sometimes while kids learn how to eat solid foods, but 1) he isn't rational about it, and 2) the dads he talks to say their child never gagged or choked.
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Post by teachermomtobe on Mar 13, 2018 13:58:52 GMT -6
moutonrouge, how old is she? I am also assuming from your post she was traditionally weaned (purees to table food). She may be choking for sure but I think you should do a lot of research on what the difference looks like in babies. Maybe even join a BLW group on FB because they typically have videos of babies gagging and it can look pretty scary but is safe. Your H being calm is a huge piece for your DD to stay calm. Just some thoughts.
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Post by piratecat on Mar 13, 2018 18:03:17 GMT -6
moutonrouge I’m sorry that sounds stressful. What do you consider to be too advanced for her? I think a lot of it has to do with her learning and figuring it out through practice. I feel for your H being worried but she can’t eat purees forever and she won’t get better without trying. I hope that the doctor will have good suggestions and be able to ease his fears.
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Post by moutonrouge on Mar 14, 2018 9:28:54 GMT -6
teachermomtobe we did a mix of purees and mashed up or very soft table food (e.g., banana, oatmeal). Then cut out purees but still either mashed the food a bit or gave her bite-size pieces. More recently we were giving her chunks and letting her bite off smaller pieces. It might have been gagging but she was grabbing for her throat/neck. I think the first two times were probably gagging since she wasn't bothered enough to stop eating. But you're right - watching a video would help reassure me. I am hoping DH can calm down. He sees a therapist and talks about this stuff. But I know it's hard to be forced to face a fear repeatedly. piratecat the inappropriate foods were like crackers - just things that are much harder than what she'd eaten before. The doctor basically thought DD probably scared herself a bit with the first few incidents, and her gag reflex is more sensitive now. This morning she gagged on applesauce, so I don't think it's about the foods anymore. Doctor said to scale back a bit to the very soft or mashed foods, see how things look in a few weeks. If it isn't better, we'll do a swallow study.
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Post by piratecat on Mar 15, 2018 6:52:43 GMT -6
moutonrouge , I hope she doesn't have any more scary incidents! ETA: And I am glad that your H is talking to his therapist about it.
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Post by gimmesugar on Mar 15, 2018 8:57:10 GMT -6
moutonrouge This page has some good solids progression tips: www.candokiddo.com/news/fast-track-to-solids-part-oneI really like mesh feeders. It’s helpful for giving baby a taste of foods like blueberries and oranges when you’re worried about choking. Maybe that would make your husband less nervous? Another bonus is you can put frozen fruit in there to help with teething pain! Also, puffs are good for helping with her pincer grasp, and they’re less of a choking hazard than crackers, tortillas, etc because they dissolve quickly.
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Post by piratecat on Mar 18, 2018 16:32:43 GMT -6
So we have been doing BLW since 6 months or so and I feel like my kid is really picky. He eats pretty well when there’s something he likes but there are a lot of things that we offer that he doesn’t want. Like vegetables. I feel like he is already eating like a picky toddler. He loves carbs. Mac and cheese. Waffle. Puffs. He does eat some fruit but not always. What gives? Please someone offer anecdotes of how these picky pre-toddlers grew into good eaters.
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Post by thechickencoop on Mar 18, 2018 19:19:37 GMT -6
So we have been doing BLW since 6 months or so and I feel like my kid is really picky. He eats pretty well when there’s something he likes but there are a lot of things that we offer that he doesn’t want. Like vegetables. I feel like he is already eating like a picky toddler. He loves carbs. Mac and cheese. Waffle. Puffs. He does eat some fruit but not always. What gives? Please someone offer anecdotes of how these picky pre-toddlers grew into good eaters. I think all you can do is just keep offering. And offering. And offering. DS1 ate EVERYTHING as a baby/toddler. Like, people were amazed at what that kid would eat. Then he hit 2 1/2 and, oh, all of a sudden he doesn't like anything. And that's where we are still almost 4 years later. He eats plain steak, plain chicken, broccoli, green beans, and some fruits - apples, bananas, kiwi, melon. And of course any and all junk food/desserts. Like, tonight at dinner, I made burgers. I gave him his sans bun (we call it plain steak and he'll eat it that way) BUT, I had put some teeny tiny onion dices in the meat. He sat there and picked.out.every.onion.sliver. So, don't stress about it too much. I'm pretty sure you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.
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Post by cmb on Mar 19, 2018 17:34:27 GMT -6
So we have been doing BLW since 6 months or so and I feel like my kid is really picky. He eats pretty well when there’s something he likes but there are a lot of things that we offer that he doesn’t want. Like vegetables. I feel like he is already eating like a picky toddler. He loves carbs. Mac and cheese. Waffle. Puffs. He does eat some fruit but not always. What gives? Please someone offer anecdotes of how these picky pre-toddlers grew into good eaters. DS1 at everything. He now lives off muffins and chicken nuggets at age 3. I really don’t think there’s anyway to prevent it. DS2 is just fickle on things, so I’ve given up there
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Post by cmb on Mar 19, 2018 17:35:30 GMT -6
Oh, and stop the puffs. Apparently, it can confuse the hell out of babies because they get so used to dissolvable food (according to my pedi, that is. We used them for DS1 on occasion)
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Post by piratecat on Mar 20, 2018 8:54:16 GMT -6
thechickencoop, cmb, you guys give me much hope.......... Interesting about Puffs. He does really well with chewing, but I've been giving him Cheerios to snack on and he seems to like those just as much.
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Post by cmb on Mar 20, 2018 12:02:59 GMT -6
thechickencoop, cmb, you guys give me much hope.......... Interesting about Puffs. He does really well with chewing, but I've been giving him Cheerios to snack on and he seems to like those just as much. Toddlers are picky. The question is will they grow out of it. Stay tuned! Cheerios are definitely better. Even gummy boy over here loves Cheerios. Just don’t do honey nut before one
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Post by piratecat on Mar 21, 2018 7:13:24 GMT -6
Another question (sorry, I have lots):
What kinds of snacks do you give your kiddos? We are just starting snacks and have pretty much just done plain Cheerios, which he likes, but I feel like I should have more variety. Something easy and clean, for while playing with toys or out and about? He likes grapes but that's about all I could think of.
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Post by cmb on Mar 21, 2018 17:10:30 GMT -6
Another question (sorry, I have lots): What kinds of snacks do you give your kiddos? We are just starting snacks and have pretty much just done plain Cheerios, which he likes, but I feel like I should have more variety. Something easy and clean, for while playing with toys or out and about? He likes grapes but that's about all I could think of. Carrots in small pieces? DS2 is all about carrots, but he has no patience for steaming them (he’s still toothless so no raw). He also loves muffins that he steals from his brother and hummus chips.
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Post by lupincat on Mar 21, 2018 19:38:28 GMT -6
Another question (sorry, I have lots): What kinds of snacks do you give your kiddos? We are just starting snacks and have pretty much just done plain Cheerios, which he likes, but I feel like I should have more variety. Something easy and clean, for while playing with toys or out and about? He likes grapes but that's about all I could think of. I cut up cheese cubes into teeny tiny pieces, yogurt melts (I break them in half), and plain cheerios. It's hard to come up with options since he only has 3 teeth.
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Post by cmb on Mar 22, 2018 10:01:51 GMT -6
Another question (sorry, I have lots): What kinds of snacks do you give your kiddos? We are just starting snacks and have pretty much just done plain Cheerios, which he likes, but I feel like I should have more variety. Something easy and clean, for while playing with toys or out and about? He likes grapes but that's about all I could think of. I cut up cheese cubes into teeny tiny pieces, yogurt melts (I break them in half), and plain cheerios. It's hard to come up with options since he only has 3 teeth. 3 teeth! 😳 isn’t he a month younger than mine? (I’m always amazed by kids who have teeth before 1)
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Post by piratecat on Mar 22, 2018 13:04:53 GMT -6
cmb, he used to like carrots in the beginning but hasn't shown interest lately. I'll keep trying though because that would make a good snack. Muffins are a good idea, too! lupincat, he does like cheese most days. He's never been into yogurt melts, that stinker.
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Post by lupincat on Mar 22, 2018 14:03:55 GMT -6
I cut up cheese cubes into teeny tiny pieces, yogurt melts (I break them in half), and plain cheerios. It's hard to come up with options since he only has 3 teeth. 3 teeth! 😳 isn’t he a month younger than mine? (I’m always amazed by kids who have teeth before 1) I think he's about a month younger than yours! My friend's 5 month old has 4 teeth already 😳😳😳
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Post by cmb on Mar 22, 2018 17:15:01 GMT -6
3 teeth! 😳 isn’t he a month younger than mine? (I’m always amazed by kids who have teeth before 1) I think he's about a month younger than yours! My friend's 5 month old has 4 teeth already 😳😳😳 Geez! That’s crazy! Gummy boy over here is all about the hard food right now then gets mad when we say he can’t have it because he doesn’t have any teeth! He’ll be 11 months Sunday
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Post by cmb on Mar 26, 2018 10:23:58 GMT -6
AND gummy boy is no longer gummy! He has ¼ of a tooth that popped up Saturday 😂
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Post by piratecat on Mar 27, 2018 7:13:47 GMT -6
AND gummy boy is no longer gummy! He has ¼ of a tooth that popped up Saturday 😂 Nice! We've got maybe 1/6 of a tooth that he's been working on for two weeks!
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Post by gingy on Apr 2, 2018 14:05:54 GMT -6
I've mentioned this on GD and in my BMB, but I thought I'd get some opinions here since there are several BLWers. DS is 6.5mo and we've been doing BLW successfully at home since he hit 6mo. He loves food.
He is just sucking down bottles at school and has been since last Monday. They increased the amount in his morning bottle, but he still wanted a second before lunch (he usually just has one before I get there to nurse). His school is very BLW-friendly, but he can't/won't sit at the table well enough for solids because the chair backs are lower and he wants to lounge. They can give him oatmeal or purees, but he hates being fed. I also don't know how he'd do with purees at school and finger foods at home.
Someone on my BMB mentioned Mum Mums, so I'll get some of those to send. Any other ideas?
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Post by piratecat on Apr 2, 2018 14:16:14 GMT -6
I've mentioned this on GD and in my BMB, but I thought I'd get some opinions here since there are several BLWers. DS is 6.5mo and we've been doing BLW successfully at home since he hit 6mo. He loves food. He is just sucking down bottles at school and has been since last Monday. They increased the amount in his morning bottle, but he still wanted a second before lunch (he usually just has one before I get there to nurse). His school is very BLW-friendly, but he can't/won't sit at the table well enough for solids because the chair backs are lower and he wants to lounge. They can give him oatmeal or purees, but he hates being fed. I also don't know how he'd do with purees at school and finger foods at home. Someone on my BMB mentioned Mum Mums, so I'll get some of those to send. Any other ideas? I'm confused about why he can't sit at the table - is he too small for the seat and he is slouching too much? Can they stuff a blanket to help him fit better? Or can you send in a portable high chair like the Bumbo multi seat that they can strap to a chair a pull up to the table so that he can eat with the other kids? And if he's not sitting at the table, where would they feed him oatmeal or purees? Do they provide finger foods if he can sit at the table or do you still have to send food in?
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Post by gingy on Apr 2, 2018 14:27:37 GMT -6
piratecat, he's a little turd and likes to lean to one side with his arm over the edge and eat with the other hand. In his chair at home, the arm is high enough that he is still propped up. The chairs at school have shorter arms, so he almost falls out when he does his lean. He can sit independently, so idk what his deal is. I might have to explore alternative chair options. They do oatmeal and purees in those infant-to-toddler rockers. They use the kick stand so it's stable and strap them in. They provide all food no matter which way we go, but things like Mum Mums I'd have to send in. They do usually keep puffs there.
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Post by piratecat on Apr 2, 2018 18:42:34 GMT -6
gingy , oh yikes, haha well babies are weird. But I would definitely look into figuring out a chair situation so that he could sit and eat with the rest of the kids. I'm not sure the Bumbo would be the best if he likes to lean, but would something like an inexpensive IKEA high chair work? I know that the BLW groups say that the babies shouldn't eat in certain devices that keep them in reclined positions - I think they need to be in upright position to be able to digest and gag properly, so I would be concerned about him eating in the rocker, even if it's just purees and oatmeal, especially since he is fairly new to eating solids. I also think that eating in a group setting is good for them, especially for BLW.
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Post by gingy on Apr 2, 2018 18:49:30 GMT -6
I’m thinking about bringing in some receiving blankets and trying to roll those behind his arms for support. Maybe if he felt a little more stable he wouldn’t try to lean. Even though he sits on the floor with zero propping for up to half an hour. Weirdo.
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Post by gingy on Apr 3, 2018 7:25:04 GMT -6
He sat well with the blankets, but his teacher said he just started screaming and throwing himself around. They tried mashed carrots yesterday, but he wasn't having any of it. So I guess we'll just send a gallon of milk every day.
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Post by piratecat on Apr 3, 2018 7:46:26 GMT -6
He sat well with the blankets, but his teacher said he just started screaming and throwing himself around. They tried mashed carrots yesterday, but he wasn't having any of it. So I guess we'll just send a gallon of milk every day. I'm glad that the blanket worked and I hope he just needs a little getting used to. Did they give him a bottle before offering solids? I know that when I have forgotten to nurse before solids J was too hungry and was a frantic mess. What kinds of things does he eat at home that he enjoys? Maybe you can send in a few things that you know he likes? My kiddo can be fussy at home at the table depending on his mood and what is being offered, although it sounds like he eats much better at daycare (and is generally better behaved there because of course). I need to have a variety of things to offer him for him to get started eating and then he'll eat the rest of the stuff he had initially rejected (quite dramatically).
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Post by gingy on Apr 3, 2018 7:57:48 GMT -6
He sat well with the blankets, but his teacher said he just started screaming and throwing himself around. They tried mashed carrots yesterday, but he wasn't having any of it. So I guess we'll just send a gallon of milk every day. I'm glad that the blanket worked and I hope he just needs a little getting used to. Did they give him a bottle before offering solids? I know that when I have forgotten to nurse before solids J was too hungry and was a frantic mess. What kinds of things does he eat at home that he enjoys? Maybe you can send in a few things that you know he likes? My kiddo can be fussy at home at the table depending on his mood and what is being offered, although it sounds like he eats much better at daycare (and is generally better behaved there because of course). I need to have a variety of things to offer him for him to get started eating and then he'll eat the rest of the stuff he had initially rejected (quite dramatically). I made sure to nurse right before we left the house, so that shouldn't have been the problem. He looooves bananas, and they have those almost every day with breakfast, which is why I thought it would be a good starting point at school. The director came in as he was getting a bottle, and his teacher explained what was going on. She said she wonders if my milk isn't fatty enough and/or doesn't have the nutrients he needs. He seems happier/fuller after a bottle of formula (they've been giving him 1-2 per day to supplement while he's eating a ton). The idea of going to all formula makes me sad, though. Maybe I'll call my LC in a bit and see what she thinks.
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