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Post by piratecat on Jan 16, 2018 8:21:58 GMT -6
Guys, we have real poop. Tiny smelly real poop.
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Post by lupincat on Jan 16, 2018 9:08:55 GMT -6
Guys, we have real poop. Tiny smelly real poop. On the plus side, it's easier to clean than formula/breast milk poop!
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Post by piratecat on Jan 16, 2018 11:51:07 GMT -6
Guys, we have real poop. Tiny smelly real poop. On the plus side, it's easier to clean than formula/breast milk poop! We're cloth diapering, but have been using disposables while clearing up a stubborn rash, and I hope it's really not a big deal. I do need to figure out a new set up with a pail in the bathroom.
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Post by teachermomtobe on Jan 16, 2018 20:14:45 GMT -6
Guys, we have real poop. Tiny smelly real poop. Omg the smell!
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Post by piratecat on Jan 18, 2018 8:00:42 GMT -6
I finally talked to daycare about feeding him solids - skipping purees and letting him feed himself. He'll be 8 months next week and he is getting pretty close with the pincer grasp so I think it won't be too different from what they do with older kids.
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Post by piratecat on Jan 22, 2018 21:27:28 GMT -6
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Post by piratecat on Jan 29, 2018 10:19:22 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as eating regression? J has been so good at eating pretty much everything I give him and now he barely touches his food. I don’t know if he just needs more new things to try or if he is teething or what. He gets super fussy and I can’t keep him in the high chair long enough to... do anything.
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Post by gimmesugar on Jan 29, 2018 16:48:26 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as eating regression? J has been so good at eating pretty much everything I give him and now he barely touches his food. I don’t know if he just needs more new things to try or if he is teething or what. He gets super fussy and I can’t keep him in the high chair long enough to... do anything. DS goes through weird phases. Heck, sometimes he’ll LOVE something for several days and then...nope. No more. Sometimes he’s all about finger foods and other times he just plays around with it but will eat a few bites of purée. It’s weird.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 12:28:20 GMT -6
Can we talk about transitioning from breastmilk or formula to solids? I know that BM/formula is supposed to be their primary nutrition until 1 year but you're also supposed to "work towards" 3 meals + 2 snacks by 1 year so what does that transition period really look like? At home and at daycare?
J is 8.5 months and eating two meals plus a snack at daycare and only drinking half the milk I send this past week. At home he is eating 2-3 meals/day but not breastfeeding any noticeably less.
What are you noticing with your kids? If you have older ones, when did you stop sending milk to daycare?
Maybe I should crosspost this on the Breastfeeding board.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 12:30:00 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as eating regression? J has been so good at eating pretty much everything I give him and now he barely touches his food. I don’t know if he just needs more new things to try or if he is teething or what. He gets super fussy and I can’t keep him in the high chair long enough to... do anything. DS goes through weird phases. Heck, sometimes he’ll LOVE something for several days and then...nope. No more. Sometimes he’s all about finger foods and other times he just plays around with it but will eat a few bites of purée. It’s weird. I think that I am noticing J just wants to eat new things. I made a bunch of stuff (pancakes, broccoli muffins, etc.) to freeze that I can easily grab and reheat for him and after a few days he just wasn't interested. But if I offer him something he hasn't tried before, he is back to being a great eater. I guess I just need to step up my game.
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Post by gimmesugar on Feb 6, 2018 12:44:41 GMT -6
Can we talk about transitioning from breastmilk or formula to solids? I know that BM/formula is supposed to be their primary nutrition until 1 year but you're also supposed to "work towards" 3 meals + 2 snacks by 1 year so what does that transition period really look like? At home and at daycare? J is 8.5 months and eating two meals plus a snack at daycare and only drinking half the milk I send this past week. At home he is eating 2-3 meals/day but not breastfeeding any noticeably less. What are you noticing with your kids? If you have older ones, when did you stop sending milk to daycare? Maybe I should crosspost this on the Breastfeeding board. I don’t really have an answer. I’m going to ask at our 9 month checkup this week. We noticed over the last couple of weeks that DS dropped his milk intake by 2-3 oz. Daycare feeds him lunch, and afternoon snack, and I feed him a quick dinner at home. They offer solids before milk. He’s offered three 4 oz bottles (9:30ish/1ish/4ish), and they feed him lunch (11ish) and an afternoon snack (3ish). I feed him dinner real quick as soon as we get home and then nurse before we start our bedtime routine. I also nurse him first thing in the morning and sometimes once overnight. At home, I offer nursing before solids (generally as soon as he wakes up from his naps), and then I offer solids about 1-1.5 hours later. We can usually only get to lunch and dinner on the weekends. The afternoon snack has gotten lost in the shuffle. We haven’t consistently offered a breakfast. Sometimes I’ll give him a banana or some other table food for him to “eat” while we get ready. I don’t have time to spoon feed him anything. I’m going to talk to our pedi about his solid intake “pace.”
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 13:00:51 GMT -6
gimmesugar, I know that they recommend you offer boob/bottle before solids and I always do at home but our daycare usually does not (they offer everyone meals at the same time at set times) and I'm sure that's a big contributing factor in him taking less from the bottle. He also hasn't been very fond of bottles for some time so I think that's part of the problem too. BLW has been helpful because it mostly means we can eat while he feeds himself, although there's probably more clean up. I try and balance messy meals and less messy meals so that I don't feel overwhelmed with the clean up all day. Because it takes a lot of effort for me to keep up with pumping enough to send to daycare, him drinking less takes some pressure off, but he is also on the smaller side and I want to make sure that he is getting enough calories, although he only goes to daycare 2-3 days/week. And I just don't know what is "normal".
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Post by gimmesugar on Feb 6, 2018 13:15:48 GMT -6
piratecat Yeah, I wish DS was more consistently interested in table food/BLW. Some days he’s all about it and other days he looks at me like WTF is this?? Lol. It would be much easier if he were more consistent with self-feeding. I try to mix it up and continue offering him table food when I can. I have the same feelings about the mess factor. It’s exhausting and yet another reason why I don’t feel motivated to feed him breakfast before leaving for daycare.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 13:19:44 GMT -6
Oh there is no way in hell I could feed him breakfast before daycare. I am always running late as it is. It's a good thing they feed him breakfast there first thing.
The banana pancakes premade and frozen are one of the few things J will eat pretty consistently and the mess is minimal. I was going to try adding oatmeal or wheat cereal to it for additional calories and nutrients next time.
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Post by moutonrouge on Feb 6, 2018 13:27:59 GMT -6
This turned into a kind of word-vomit post but piratecat here's my experience with solids and breastfeeding/pumping for daycare. DD is 11 months. Right now she gets 3 meals and snack each day. The meals are small - veggies, a little yogurt, half a piece of toast with hummus - and snacks are basically Cheerios. She's still taking the same amount of breastmilk at daycare as she did at 6 months. She nurses a bit less often now, but some of that has come with her sleeping longer. Daycare offers bottles on a schedule, so to some extent it's before meals but only because her bottle is given at 9 and morning snack is at 10. My pediatrician really pushed 3 meals a day by 9 months, but we were only doing lunch and dinner at that time. My pediatrician's practice isn't very breastfeeding friendly, so I took their advice with a grain of salt. 2 meals worked for her then, and we've added more solids between 9 months and now. I've realized DD's trajectory won't line up with being weaned in a month. And that's fine. A few months ago I had a little meltdown where I realized I didn't understand how she could wean by 1 year when solid food was supplementing and not replacing her breastmilk intake. I felt like everyone had said "after 6 months you won't have to pump/nurse/whatever as much because she'll eat solids" but that wasn't what I saw happening. I talked to a friend who had the same experience, and she said at some point her daughter really went to town on food, and they finished weaning at 18 months. That's my new goal post. We've recently been giving her water in a sippy cup at meals. That's helped her digestion a bit. She doesn't drink a ton, but she very quickly understood the sippy cup (we use the Munchkin 360 cups). I think at a year I'll try out giving her breastmilk in a sippy instead of the bottle. She is pretty particular about her bottles, though, so I have low expectations. I also struggle with pumping enough, and I've wondered if she's nursing less on weekends and my supply is adjusting down. I juuuuuuust make my quota everyday, and that's with a lot of effort.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 13:49:30 GMT -6
moutonrouge, yea it seems like 1 year is when they go from breastmilk being their primary source to solids being their primary source but it must be a more gradual change right? Or maybe it does happen more suddenly like your friend's kid but on their own timeline. Ugh, so much commiseration on struggling with pumping enough. I have to pump almost every night at home to supplement what I pump at work and my kid only goes to daycare part time. There's no way I could have kept up if he went full time. I enjoy breastfeeding but I would love love love to be done with pumping sooner than later.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 13:50:13 GMT -6
I posted on the Breastfeeding board if you guys want to follow along, although it's pretty slow there.
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Post by moutonrouge on Feb 6, 2018 14:20:17 GMT -6
moutonrouge , yea it seems like 1 year is when they go from breastmilk being their primary source to solids being their primary source but it must be a more gradual change right? Or maybe it does happen more suddenly like your friend's kid but on their own timeline. Ugh, so much commiseration on struggling with pumping enough. I have to pump almost every night at home to supplement what I pump at work and my kid only goes to daycare part time. There's no way I could have kept up if he went full time. I enjoy breastfeeding but I would love love love to be done with pumping sooner than later. That was the disconnect I felt a few months ago - I didn't understand how can it be a primary source one day and just gone the next. What my friend described was that her daughter just got a lot more efficient at eating solids. She had more teeth and her fine motor skills were much improved. She also told me that if you want to, at 12 months you can swap breastmilk for cow's milk. This is probably common knowledge but I somehow never knew that was a thing. My friend (who is apparently my main source for all my parenting knowledge, lol) said she started offering snacks/meals/cow's milk to replace nursing sessions as time went on. And I know Kellymom says you can start offering solids first at 1 year. I'm curious to see what the breastfeeding board says - I'll follow over there, too.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 14:31:22 GMT -6
moutonrouge, oh right I forgot about cow's milk too! And switching to offering solids first after 1 year makes sense, so maybe the weaning process really only begins after 1 year? I'll see what my pediatrician says about it too.
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Post by gingy on Feb 6, 2018 16:25:43 GMT -6
moutonrouge, yea it seems like 1 year is when they go from breastmilk being their primary source to solids being their primary source but it must be a more gradual change right? Or maybe it does happen more suddenly like your friend's kid but on their own timeline. Ugh, so much commiseration on struggling with pumping enough. I have to pump almost every night at home to supplement what I pump at work and my kid only goes to daycare part time. There's no way I could have kept up if he went full time. I enjoy breastfeeding but I would love love love to be done with pumping sooner than later. I’m reading through this thread on a pump break, and I feel you. DS is eating more and more at school. We were going to wait and do BLW, but we might start with cereals and purees at school to help offset my lack of pumped milk. I usually get just enough for the next day, but today won’t be one of those days based on his teacher’s report at lunch. At least I get over there once a day to nurse.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 17:16:12 GMT -6
gingy I was putting off starting solids at daycare but then J started drinking a ton (they supplement with formula if they run out of BM) and there was no way I could keep up. My daycare was open to BLW so we were able to skip purees and it’s been going well for us. That’s cool that you are able to nurse him once a day!
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Post by teachermomtobe on Feb 6, 2018 19:33:48 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as eating regression? J has been so good at eating pretty much everything I give him and now he barely touches his food. I don’t know if he just needs more new things to try or if he is teething or what. He gets super fussy and I can’t keep him in the high chair long enough to... do anything. Literally came here to post this exact question and V is 8 months now. She also seems to prefer new things compared to if she has had something 2 days in a row. So glad we are not alone!
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Post by piratecat on Feb 6, 2018 19:42:49 GMT -6
Is there such a thing as eating regression? J has been so good at eating pretty much everything I give him and now he barely touches his food. I don’t know if he just needs more new things to try or if he is teething or what. He gets super fussy and I can’t keep him in the high chair long enough to... do anything. Literally came here to post this exact question and V is 8 months now. She also seems to prefer new things compared to if she has had something 2 days in a row. So glad we are not alone! Gosh, how can such tiny humans have so many opinions?? I’m not looking forward to toddler years!
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Post by gingy on Feb 6, 2018 20:00:36 GMT -6
gingy I was putting off starting solids at daycare but then J started drinking a ton (they supplement with formula if they run out of BM) and there was no way I could keep up. My daycare was open to BLW so we were able to skip purees and it’s been going well for us. That’s cool that you are able to nurse him once a day! They’ll do BLW in his class also. They have so much fun with the littles and table food. I guess we’ll have to see how his eating is over the next month or so. He’ll be 5mo this week, so we have a little time if we want to skip purees.
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Post by cmb on Feb 7, 2018 10:50:59 GMT -6
Literally came here to post this exact question and V is 8 months now. She also seems to prefer new things compared to if she has had something 2 days in a row. So glad we are not alone! Gosh, how can such tiny humans have so many opinions?? I’m not looking forward to toddler years! It’s much worse with toddlers...
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Post by cmb on Feb 7, 2018 10:54:33 GMT -6
We do bottles in the trash on the first birthday. The formula is cut with milk until they will take whole milk.
Daycare starts offering two meals and a snack whenever we approve. Right now, he gets breakfast at 7:30 from home when we drop him off. School meals are at 9am, 11:30am, and 3pm which he also participates in. He gets a bottle with the 9am meal and one around 1pm. At home, he gets dinner and a bottle before bed. We’re beginning the sippy cup transition, but he’s all of a sudden decided he wanted more food and dropped to about 14-16 oz of formula a day from 22-24 oz.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 7, 2018 11:02:07 GMT -6
Gosh, how can such tiny humans have so many opinions?? I’m not looking forward to toddler years! It’s much worse with toddlers... I'm sure... I can't wait.
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Post by gimmesugar on Feb 7, 2018 15:54:15 GMT -6
piratecat We went to our 9 month well visit today. I thought I’d let you know what our pedi said with the caveat that we haven’t had any weight/growth concerns. DS has always hovered in the 25-30th percentiles. - She was not surprised to hear that his breastmilk intake dropped a bit at daycare. As long as he’s nursing at home, we’re good. - She said there was no need to force a particular solids feeding schedule (i.e. breakfast, lunch, dinner, snacks, etc). I was told to just go with the flow on the daycare schedule. When I asked specifically about breakfast, she said that nursing first thing in the morning is fine. If we were at the 1 year mark and I was just done with nursing, she said I could pop him in the high chair and offer breakfast instead. - I asked if I should expect him to eat a target volume of solids at each meal (i.e. 1, 2, 3, 4 oz), and she said to just follow his lead since babies are much better at regulating their intake than adults. If he eats a little and is done, then he’s done. - I’ve been offering a little bit of water in the Miracle 360 cup at meal times, and she was OK with that too. He loves water, but she didn’t say that I should increase or decrease it....just offering with solids is fine. Anyway, I felt a lot less stressed after the appointment. I’ve been following his lead and not forcing it, but in the back of my mind, I was always worried about if I should be expecting him to eat more. -
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Post by piratecat on Feb 7, 2018 18:22:30 GMT -6
gimmesugar thanks! That’s really helpful and reassuring to hear. J has been in the 25-30 percentile too so hopefully he is still on track.
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Post by piratecat on Feb 12, 2018 9:43:47 GMT -6
I added baby oatmeal to the banana pancakes and it turned out good and it seems like a more substantial breakfast than just banana and eggs.
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