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Post by cali on Nov 1, 2017 9:30:19 GMT -6
king26, yes, M definitely prefers to be in motion. It is exhausting a lot of the time and my back is definitely feeling it. I'm hoping as they get older and more interested in toys and things she'll be able to be entertained on her playmat for longer periods.
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Post by bsouls on Nov 1, 2017 12:38:18 GMT -6
R slept from 7:30pm to 6am. I woke up several times with her noises in anticipation of needing to feed her, but she kept sleeping. Wow! That’s awesome and I’m So jealous. What’s your trick?? Also, are you BFing? If so, How did your boobs handle that? We formula feed. I’m not sure why she never fully woke up last night. I wish I got to sleep the whole time, but I was up waiting to see if she’d get up. T used to sleep through the night at a month old. And, she has always been on the high of sleep. I’m hoping R gets on that train soon.
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Post by thinkchocolate05 on Nov 1, 2017 13:46:21 GMT -6
Baby H just finished the 2nd leap but this is the third day in a row where he will not nap unless I'm rocking, walking, or wearing him. He used to give me beautiful 2 hr naps on the boppy lounger but it's just not happening now. He'll only tolerate the swing for about 15 min as well. I have DS1's bday party on Sunday and then return to work Tuesday, so I'm trying to clean everything and find and prepare non maternity work clothes that fit. The house is such a wreck I don't know where to start. When dh gets home from work he just wants to relax on his phone but I just can't do it all and keep the house decently clean, and I know he'll get all stressed about the house being messy for DS1's party.
I got so annoyed at dh yesterday bc I was nursing a very fussy baby H and asked him if he could please go wash and prepare a pumped bottle to supplement. He was lounging on the couch cushions in the nursery on his phone and didn't acknowledge me, although I'm sure he heard me. I waited about five minutes and then went and put baby H in the swing and washed and sterilized bottles. He was still lounging on the cushions on his phone when I came back to the nursery. When I asked him if he heard me ask him to make a bottle, he said he thought I was just saying that maybe baby H needed a bottle versus asking him to make one. He could have at least come out and helped when he heard me washing. Sigh. End rant. The end result of this is that I eat leftover Halloween candy.
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Post by cali on Nov 1, 2017 15:40:12 GMT -6
thinkchocolate05, I'm so sorry, that sounds so stressful! YH needs to help you out! I get that he wants to relax after work but if he's gonna stress about the state of the house for the party then he needs to pitch in. I hope he helps you get it all done.
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Post by king26 on Nov 1, 2017 16:34:55 GMT -6
Baby H just finished the 2nd leap but this is the third day in a row where he will not nap unless I'm rocking, walking, or wearing him. He used to give me beautiful 2 hr naps on the boppy lounger but it's just not happening now. He'll only tolerate the swing for about 15 min as well. I have DS1's bday party on Sunday and then return to work Tuesday, so I'm trying to clean everything and find and prepare non maternity work clothes that fit. The house is such a wreck I don't know where to start. When dh gets home from work he just wants to relax on his phone but I just can't do it all and keep the house decently clean, and I know he'll get all stressed about the house being messy for DS1's party. I got so annoyed at dh yesterday bc I was nursing a very fussy baby H and asked him if he could please go wash and prepare a pumped bottle to supplement. He was lounging on the couch cushions in the nursery on his phone and didn't acknowledge me, although I'm sure he heard me. I waited about five minutes and then went and put baby H in the swing and washed and sterilized bottles. He was still lounging on the cushions on his phone when I came back to the nursery. When I asked him if he heard me ask him to make a bottle, he said he thought I was just saying that maybe baby H needed a bottle versus asking him to make one. He could have at least come out and helped when he heard me washing. Sigh. End rant. The end result of this is that I eat leftover Halloween candy. If be mad about DH. I'm the one that is going to work and DH is staying home but I already plan on having the baby in the morning before I leave and as soon as I get home until bedtime since I won't have him all day. If he mad that DH wants to rest as I'm sure you don't get to rest.
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Post by muscari on Nov 1, 2017 17:32:44 GMT -6
So D's 2mo (10wks) check up and shots appointment was today and it was absolutely terrible. The shots itself weren't the wordt even tho she did cry a bit (the nurse couldn't give injections like crap! Seriously I am positive I could have done it better myself or MH for sure!) but settled soon once daddy was cuddling her. I had brought a bottle of BM whichI gave her right after and she fell asleep on the way home. She had been maybe a little fussy but nothing till bad. FX tomorrow will be the same.
She grew nicely and is now 59cm (23.22") long. Wow! She is developing on track as well and is a pretty happy baby. Not such good news was her weight though. 😢 She hardly gained any weight in those past 5 weeks and went from 3910gr / 7lb10oz to 4010gr / 7lbs13.5oz. She dropped from right around the 50th percentile to like almost of the scale. 😭😭The plan is now to supplement with a bottle after each and every feeding and to feed her every 3 hours, and for me to pump each session as well. We got a new can of formula as i don't have a lot of freezer milk nor pump enough.. though I do hope I pump enough eventually to EBF again. She had had 2 bottles after feeds so far (skipped it at her last feed cause she was asleep by then) 3oz per bottle but she didnt finish them completely (2/3rd if am oz left max). Poor kid seems to have some minor cramps and I think it is the formula.. She hadn't had any in a good while so more I feel bad that the formula is causing sime again
I am having all the feels right now and am still processing D fell asleep earlier and is in bed and i am crooked eyed from exhaustion and found myself typing totally random sentences before.. So will write more tomorrow. Just wanted to write and reach out a little.
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Post by jt2378 on Nov 1, 2017 18:20:14 GMT -6
Oh muscari, big hugs, I’m sorry about the not great weight news. I know you have been concerned about supply and I’m sure this doesn’t help with that anxiety. I’m glad you have a plan and she will gaining weight in no time I’m sure. 💕
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Post by king26 on Nov 1, 2017 19:33:18 GMT -6
Big hugs muscari J gained no weight from week 1 to week 2 and I felt horrible about it. We had the same plan as you do now.i breastfed then followed with a 2 oz bottle and pumped every time. The good news is J gained an ounce a day when I did this. The bad news was my supply didn't get any better so I switched to all formula but you are 10 weeks into breastfeeding and I was only 2 weeks in so I'm sure you will be fine. Just remember that a fed baby is best no matter what you feed her. You are doing what you need to do to care foe her and she will gain weight. Big hugs. Please write me if you need to as I had all the feels when we found out he had gained no weight.
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Post by muscari on Nov 1, 2017 22:06:26 GMT -6
Thanks jt2378 and king26. I know rationally thisndoesnt suddenly make D into a sick and poorly baby, she is not failing to thrive, she is 'just' underweight atm and we can and will fix this. It is just emotionally so hard. My emotions are confused and I felt sooooo sad (and cried) while BFing her last night and having to pull her off the poop after 10 minutes. FX she will gain appropriately, stops snacking and will start drinking better and faster and for my supply to go up not down cause I would be devestated if this is start of the end of BFing. MH said that no matter what even if my milk dried up I could still put her on the boob for the intimacy etc but not sure it works that way? Not if nothing comes out no more? Poor D. She used to have cramps when she as younger but hasnt had many issues these past weeks except for when she didn't poop for 2.5 days last week. They pretty much stopped when we quit supplementing with formula it seemed or at least lessened a whooooooele lot then pretty much altogether went away. I know tis could be coincidence but this evening she just woke me up at 4.15am cause she was grunting and whimpering as if she was in pain. This little girl has STTN for weeks now and now this?! I guess it could be that s not feeling well cause of the shots buy i swear tis the formula?!! (I may be biased lol) either way it broke my mama heart. When I checked on her she was still sleepy and eyes closed just whimpering and crying some and moving around a bit. I went to the bathroom and when I came back she seemed to have fallen back asleep again. She s been quiet since so hopefully she will get some more sleep. We were advised to also wake her MOTN but decided to see how she does with this schedule 6am to midnight and let her AND ME get at least some proper hours of sleep. There are days where I feel like I am having by on a thread as it is and going back to sleeping 2h at a time... the sleep fragmentation would be the last drop in my overflowing bucket and I'd loose it altogether. /end of ramble just had to get that off my chest (and i never been one who was able to keep concise hah) . Lets see if i can sleep some more. I was sooo exhausted earlier i have been sleepnwriting half my prev entry 😆
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Post by muscari on Nov 1, 2017 22:29:57 GMT -6
I didnt pump after putting her to bed cause i was just too tired but she also didnt drink as much as she normally does (to br expected i guess with having had 160ml 5oz formula extra) and now my boob feels more full and sensitive MOTN then usually. I hope once isnt to big a problem but if i feel the same tomorrow i know i shall have to pump before bed again as well. Ugh.
I never minded pumping much and only stopped causeD wouldn't give me time by myself to pump while mh was at work. But i hate it atm and the cleaning of the pump parts afterwards is the worst. I also realized how nice it is to not need to clean bottles while BFing. LOL I do so hope with all my heart i will be able to go back to EBF. 99% cause of my feels but also 1% cause it is much more convenient haha.
Do you think it is possible she doesn't nap well during the day cause she was hungry? She gives hunger signs just fine though and i always fed on demand. She sometimes would go 4h in between feeds in the afternoon but usually would eat after 2 5-3h anyway and evenings clusterfed pretty much. So.... how does that work? Maybe she isnt hungry hungry per se just didnt get enough extra milk to have surplus to gain weight after using all the energy she gets from her milk intake to grow and play and be awake etc? Cause shouldnt she hsve been miserable if she was hungry? She honestly isnt and also is not failing to thrive.
I just want my baby to feel okay and healthy. But i love breastfeeding so much even if it is a lot sometimes.
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Post by thinkchocolate05 on Nov 2, 2017 0:16:59 GMT -6
muscari Big hugs!! I feel so bad for you bc this happened to me with DS1, and it was horrible. From birth to one month old, we ebf DS1 and he barely maintained weight without gaining. I was told to supplement urgently at his one month appt, and then he started gaining fine but I was just devastated. It's a horrible feeling. Try not to beat yourself up. You've been doing your best, and fed is best--you can do this!! I wouldn't be too sure that D's fussiness is the formula. It could definitely be the shots. Also, just so you know, baby H was less willing to eat for about 3 days after 2 month shots, so that's something that might affect you as well. I know it feels like this may be the end of breastfeeding and that everything is drying up--that's exactly how I felt with DS1, and I cried and cried. However, I ended up nursing him until 2 years old! I only made probably about 15 oz a day, but I didn't lose that 15 oz. If you end up switching to formula, that is one hundred percent fine, but you seem like you want to keep breastfeeding, so I don't see why you wouldn't be able to. Again, hugs--you are a great mama, and you didn't know she wasn't gaining. She will be just fine. I hope you can get some sleep.
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Post by cali on Nov 2, 2017 5:37:12 GMT -6
muscari, big, big ((hugs)) I just want you to know you're not alone and this is not the end of BFing (unless you want it to be). As you might remember, my supply never really came in enough to EBF. It was so, so hard to deal with that realization and I know how it can make you feel sad and like your body is failing you. Something I did is I switched to EPing just so I could have an idea of what I was actually producing. I would pump for 20 minutes and then hand express from each side to be sure I was fully emptying. That way I was able to track her exact intake but she was still getting plenty of breast milk. I would then supplement with formula as needed and was able to know exactly how much supplement was necessary. It really helped me to be able to see the amount she was getting and know she was getting enough. After a few days I went back to BFing as much as possible (and then had some idea of how much she would be getting at the boob) while still pumping and supplementing with formula. It's a lot of work but it is doable. And M has gained well on this system after not gaining at all when I was EBFing. Also, your husband is right, you can definitely still put her on the boob for comfort, even if you switched to completely formula. Often times right after I've pumped and hand expressed M will start fussing and I put her on my boob and she calms right down and sucks away even though I know I'm pretty much empty. It's almost like a pacifier and she'll usually fall asleep that way. Anyway, this is my really long way of saying there is no right or wrong way to do this. You are such a great, concerned, loving mother to D and you're doing exactly what you need to do to keep her healthy. I know it sucks when things don't go as we'd like though, so you know I'm always a text or PM away if you need to talk.
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Post by muscari on Nov 2, 2017 6:00:44 GMT -6
Thanks ladies. Reading your posts made me cry. Again 😂😗
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Post by yellowcat on Nov 2, 2017 8:06:40 GMT -6
cali I am sorry about the invasion. MH also thinks his parents help when they do not. I know they mean well but... king26 J screams his head off when I take the bottle away to burp him but the kid needs it! I think it depends on how hungry he is because it doesn't happen all the time. So my daughter refused to wear her costume so Halloween was a fail, poor j was a Tootsie Pop with no owl, she needs to step it up next year!
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Post by yellowcat on Nov 2, 2017 8:09:04 GMT -6
@miscari ((hugs)) I am sorry, no advice here because I never attempted BF because of work.
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Post by jt2378 on Nov 2, 2017 12:36:48 GMT -6
Hi ladies! So I made it through the prep and colonoscopy was today. Omg prep sucks for sure, especially with BF. It really depletes your energy. Overall it went relatively well. I’m not totally cleared because he did a couple biopsies . Not for cancer concern but colitis or Crohns ugh. I don’t really have any of those symptoms besides the damn abscess in pregnancy and he didn’t seem to be too concerned but ordered them just to be on the safe side. He will put in the orders for surgery and I will follow up in the office to discuss it more in depth before it happens. THEN hopefully I will be healed and myself again!! 🤞🙏
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Post by cali on Nov 2, 2017 12:45:02 GMT -6
jt2378, so glad to hear everything went well. FX this is it for you and you start feeling better.
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Post by cali on Nov 2, 2017 12:55:21 GMT -6
**TW: cancer****
I'm so sad you guys. My uncle's gf (who he has been with for over 15 yrs, so she is most definitely part of our family) has been battling cancer for the last couple of years. She thought she beat it and then this summer found out it was back. She went in yesterday for surgery that was her last hope. I just found out that they weren't able to do the surgery because when they went in they found it had spread too significantly. So, they basically told her there is nothing more they can do. I keep thinking of her kids and grandkids and my uncle and I'm so devastated for them. And for me too because she is an incredible person who I love very much. I can't even believe this is real. I don't even know what to do? What do you do for someone who has just gotten this kind of news?? I'm just in shock.
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Post by jt2378 on Nov 2, 2017 13:02:09 GMT -6
Oh my cali, I’m so very sorry, how truly devastating and heartbreaking. Love, light and good thoughts to your aunt, you and all of your family. Cancer truly sucks, I hope she can beat the odds ❤️
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Post by happyfeet9 on Nov 2, 2017 14:33:39 GMT -6
muscari whatever you decide to do, you're still a great mom and D will be just fine. I've been EPing pretty much from the start and we still have lots of opportunities for snuggles.
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Post by addymac on Nov 2, 2017 15:56:28 GMT -6
jt2378 I’m glad things are finally looking like they’re getting fixed for you! Fx this last surgery fixes everything and you can put it all behind you!! cali oh, I’m so sorry. For you, your family, your aunt. Idk what to suggest. 😔 muscari - I’m sorry you feel so down. D is a happy girl though- and she didn’t lose weight, which is impt to keep in mind. You guys will figure it out. I’m going to see if I can include a file my lactation consultant sent me to increase supply and maybe that can help so you can wean off formula. 💛
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Post by addymac on Nov 2, 2017 16:04:32 GMT -6
muscari (and anyone that wants to try to increase their supply) Here’s my LC’s email to me and I’m going to try to attach the pdf she sent me with similar but also other info. Try these things: Make sure you are doing hands on pumping (google…stanford video clip…might be called maximizing milk production or something) Make sure you hand express all the milk out that you can AFTER hands on pumping (google…stanford video clip) Make sure you pump until you are empty-ish then add 2 minutes…don’t just pump a fixed 15 or 20 minutes Make sure you pump with the highest comfortable suction and start fast then slow down when milk starts to flow. Look up info on How to get multiple ejection reflexes (let downs) by Morhbacher Try pumping after your wake-up morning feed, like 8a or 9a or whenever you get up…moms usually have extra then Try a pumping in the middle of the night (because I’m sure you are fully rested and waking in the middle of the night will not be taxing at all!) Try pumping after feedings more often (because I’m sure you don’t have anything else to do but feed and pump!) Try ‘power pumping’ once in the evening (google it…pump 15-20 min, rest 10 min, pump again, done…takes about an hour) Make sure your flanges fit your nipples properly…google images…should be an air pocket between nipple and flange side). Try a different flange…some moms really like Pumping Pals flanges Try a different brand of pump if you are still struggling to keep up…Avent and Medela hand pumps and Spectra get good reviews by moms!) Do you leak? Use a Milkie to collect milk that would otherwise be lost Look up paced feeds for when you return to work. Teach babysitters how to do them. Get emotionally prepared for return to work. Babies commonly demand or are given more milk with bottle feedings than they transfer at the breast. Patrice said Hinsdale ‘Nurturing Nook’ recommends moms eat Mulanggay (see attached handout) Some recommend a small amount of beer, an alcoholic beverage, oatmeal, brewers yeast, flax seed meal or Maizena. You could try taking some galactogues if the above doesn’t help (not if allergic to nuts or diabetic though) You could move on to meds if that doesn’t help: in US…Reglan, in other countries…Domperidone (Newman protocol)
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Post by muscari on Nov 2, 2017 17:17:31 GMT -6
addymac thanks! And ohh my..... thst sound like days worth of work oof. Did you put all this to practice? @ everybody just wanted to say thanks for the encouraging words. Today been extra rough and it was good to trees. AF little D. Poor girl is definitely not herself today, feeling some effects of the shots and running a bit of a temp but nothing till crazy luckily. Hopefully she will be back to her smiley happy self soon.
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Post by cwbh928 on Nov 2, 2017 18:22:04 GMT -6
muscari sorry im a little late, but sending hugs! I echo every thing everyone has already said! cali I am so sorry! Cancer sucks. I will keep you and your family in my thoughts.
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Post by thinkchocolate05 on Nov 2, 2017 19:03:54 GMT -6
Have anyone's feet gone up like half a size? I just bought two new pairs of work shoes in the size I've worn for years and neither of them fit. Not sure if I should return them or hope my feet shrink back.
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Post by yellowcat on Nov 2, 2017 19:10:39 GMT -6
cali I am so sorry, that just all sucks
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Post by addymac on Nov 2, 2017 19:34:56 GMT -6
Have anyone's feet gone up like half a size? I just bought two new pairs of work shoes in the size I've worn for years and neither of them fit. Not sure if I should return them or hope my feet shrink back. I’ve heard they can grow and usually don’t go back down ☹️ I had a friend who had an amazing shoe collection... done.... she cried...
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Post by addymac on Nov 2, 2017 19:38:36 GMT -6
addymac thanks! And ohh my..... thst sound like days worth of work oof. Did you put all this to practice? Not everything but as much as I could. A big one I did was drinking Mother’s milk tea and pumping more and for a bit longer - i had been doing 15min so I increased it to 20 / until I actually stopped getting milk out. I do a LOT of hand massaging and hand expression. DH helps with the hand massage 😂( but it’s not sexual), he’s just happy he gets to do something to help with milk production / he’s better at massaging than I am / he massages one boob while I hand express the other one and then we switch sides.
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Post by jt2378 on Nov 2, 2017 21:52:48 GMT -6
Have anyone's feet gone up like half a size? I just bought two new pairs of work shoes in the size I've worn for years and neither of them fit. Not sure if I should return them or hope my feet shrink back. I’ve heard they can grow and usually don’t go back down ☹️ I had a friend who had an amazing shoe collection... done.... she cried... Omg. The worst!
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