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Post by ftwr on Mar 19, 2021 7:29:46 GMT -6
I found it on Google Podcasts. I found it on Spotify. I'm just whiny and like all of my podcasts in one place. Lol LOL same. I recently switched to Google so that I could play them in order on my phone w/o having to pay for Spotify Premium  So I'm cheap and whiny |
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Post by Pistol on Mar 19, 2021 8:18:54 GMT -6
I found it on Spotify. I'm just whiny and like all of my podcasts in one place. Lol LOL same. I recently switched to Google so that I could play them in order on my phone w/o having to pay for Spotify Premium  So I'm cheap and whiny Oh I hadn't started and didn't realize Spotify wouldn't play in order. Guess I'll be checking out Google podcasts then. Also cheap and whiny |
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Post by ftwr on Mar 19, 2021 8:19:44 GMT -6
LOL same. I recently switched to Google so that I could play them in order on my phone w/o having to pay for Spotify Premium So I'm cheap and whiny Oh I hadn't started and didn't realize Spotify wouldn't play in order. Guess I'll be checking out Google podcasts then. Also cheap and whiny Yeah, if you're on mobile spotify will shuffle like they do with albums/playlists which is annoying to me. |
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Post by Sundae on Mar 19, 2021 8:23:53 GMT -6
I like OverCast a lot for a free podcast app. It works really well, and is coded to remove silences in podcasts, cutting out time.
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Post by smilesp on Mar 19, 2021 8:27:33 GMT -6
The Flores family reaction to everything is infuriating. They say how it sucks living under this cloud of suspicion (which I’m sure is true) but they’ve been completely uncooperative every step of the way. They won’t answer the simplest questions, they fight the police on everything, and they’ve been downright hateful to the Smart family. I want them all to go to prison so badly.
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Post by mintyblueair on Mar 19, 2021 9:38:48 GMT -6
I've listened to the first 4 episodes of the podcast and the whole thing is so maddening. I just can't believe the number of police errors and the behaviour of the Flores family towards the Smarts. It's making me sick.
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Post by Radley on Mar 19, 2021 17:13:41 GMT -6
I just started the podcast today! I’m only on the first episode though. It sounds like a she was lovely woman.
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Post by edubs on Mar 19, 2021 21:05:08 GMT -6
I am thinking that they are running that bit on the podcast regarding the statute of limitations to signal to other members of the Flores family that they won’t be charged with accessory after the fact.
Georgia and Karen mentioned Your Own Backyard today. They hadn’t yet listened to it.
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Post by Yogurt on Mar 19, 2021 21:39:58 GMT -6
I am thinking that they are running that bit on the podcast regarding the statute of limitations to signal to other members of the Flores family that they won’t be charged with accessory after the fact. Georgia and Karen mentioned Your Own Backyard today. They hadn’t yet listened to it. Wow that's neat, that will probably blow up the podcast/bring awareness to the case even more. |
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Post by Yogurt on Mar 19, 2021 21:48:49 GMT -6
Follow @okcammie on tik tok, she lives with her backyard facing Ruben's backyard and she is giving updates
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Post by mintyblueair on Mar 20, 2021 8:57:40 GMT -6
I finished episode 6. I have so many questions.
Why do you guys think the police have been so inept/slow/dismissive of tips or evidence from the civilian investigators? The podcast says some of these civilians think there's some sort of actual cover up but I can't think of why that would be? Do you guys think the police already had evidence that ruled out the tips from civilians so that's why they just didn't bother to follow them up?
If Kristin isn't/was never at Ruben's house, why has he stayed there for so many years?
Do you guys think Paul killed the woman who worked at the Coca Cola factory?
I don't understand much about the legal system, but if Paul's lawyer sent an offer to the Smarts that he would lead them to Kristin's body if they agreed to let him plead guilty to manslaughter, how does that not count as evidence against him?!
I also want to know if the police ever got access to Ruben's work routes (from 1996 when he was servicing pay phones) and followed them up to look for places they could have dropped her body. He was so maddeningly reticent about providing that information.
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Post by Cher on Mar 20, 2021 10:14:02 GMT -6
If I was the Smart family, I would probably kill Paul. I know its some violence isn't the answer shit, but I don't care. They are such a trash family who have shrugged off every fucked up thing their kid did. I can't imagine living with that pain for all of these years.
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Post by mb3 on Mar 20, 2021 11:21:39 GMT -6
I finished episode 6. I have so many questions. Why do you guys think the police have been so inept/slow/dismissive of tips or evidence from the civilian investigators? The podcast says some of these civilians think there's some sort of actual cover up but I can't think of why that would be? Do you guys think the police already had evidence that ruled out the tips from civilians so that's why they just didn't bother to follow them up? If Kristin isn't/was never at Ruben's house, why has he stayed there for so many years? Do you guys think Paul killed the woman who worked at the Coca Cola factory? I don't understand much about the legal system, but if Paul's lawyer sent an offer to the Smarts that he would lead them to Kristin's body if they agreed to let him plead guilty to manslaughter, how does that not count as evidence against him?! I also want to know if the police ever got access to Ruben's work routes (from 1996 when he was servicing pay phones) and followed them up to look for places they could have dropped her body. He was so maddeningly reticent about providing that information. Please explain the woman in the Coca Cola factory? I haven’t had time to listen to the podcast |
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Post by mintyblueair on Mar 20, 2021 12:58:23 GMT -6
I finished episode 6. I have so many questions. Why do you guys think the police have been so inept/slow/dismissive of tips or evidence from the civilian investigators? The podcast says some of these civilians think there's some sort of actual cover up but I can't think of why that would be? Do you guys think the police already had evidence that ruled out the tips from civilians so that's why they just didn't bother to follow them up? If Kristin isn't/was never at Ruben's house, why has he stayed there for so many years? Do you guys think Paul killed the woman who worked at the Coca Cola factory? I don't understand much about the legal system, but if Paul's lawyer sent an offer to the Smarts that he would lead them to Kristin's body if they agreed to let him plead guilty to manslaughter, how does that not count as evidence against him?! I also want to know if the police ever got access to Ruben's work routes (from 1996 when he was servicing pay phones) and followed them up to look for places they could have dropped her body. He was so maddeningly reticent about providing that information. Please explain the woman in the Coca Cola factory? I haven’t had time to listen to the podcast I probably don't have all the correct details, but a woman named Amber Lee Hill was murdered in 2007 after leaving the Coca Cola factory (night shift) she worked at in San Pedro (or nearby? Whittier? I'm not familiar with the geography of that area). Paul was living in the area at the time. Her murder has never been solved and a year (or maybe less than a year?) later Paul was working for Coca Cola, too, but in a different location. So they didn't work together. But he was also very creepy to several women who worked there, repeatedly asking one woman out for a drink and saying to her, "don't worry, if you get drunk I'll take care of you". From what I could find online, it sounds like police in San Pedro communicated with the police working on the Smart case about the murder but could find nothing that connected Paul to Amber. So it's just speculation, but I wondered if anyone who knew more about Paul and this case might have some thoughts. |
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Post by smilesp on Mar 20, 2021 13:24:21 GMT -6
If I was the Smart family, I would probably kill Paul. I know its some violence isn't the answer shit, but I don't care. They are such a trash family who have shrugged off every fucked up thing their kid did. I can't imagine living with that pain for all of these years. I can’t decide who I hate more-Ruben or Paul. Ruben was apparently pretty abusive to Susan and I’m assuming probably to the kids as well. Surely that plays a big part in why Paul is the way he is. |
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Post by dingdongbitch on Mar 20, 2021 13:27:03 GMT -6
Just finished the podcast yesterday. The Flores family are so, so guilty. How devastating for the Smarts.
Also, I was so furious at the Australian exchange student who saw people struggling (possibly Paul and Kristin), and just rode past. Things could have been so different.
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Post by Cher on Mar 20, 2021 13:35:20 GMT -6
If I was the Smart family, I would probably kill Paul. I know its some violence isn't the answer shit, but I don't care. They are such a trash family who have shrugged off every fucked up thing their kid did. I can't imagine living with that pain for all of these years. I can’t decide who I hate more-Ruben or Paul. Ruben was apparently pretty abusive to Susan and I’m assuming probably to the kids as well. Surely that plays a big part in why Paul is the way he is. You don't need to choose. You can hate them both the most. |
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Post by Cher on Mar 20, 2021 13:36:43 GMT -6
Follow @okcammie on tik tok, she lives with her backyard facing Ruben's backyard and she is giving updates She came up on my fYP when she posted the first search video. It was kind of crazy because she was like, "I know nobody is going to see this" because she had like zero followers and she's now the official TikTok updater of the search. Social media is wild. |
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Post by mintyblueair on Mar 20, 2021 15:40:00 GMT -6
Just finished the podcast yesterday. The Flores family are so, so guilty. How devastating for the Smarts. Also, I was so furious at the Australian exchange student who saw people struggling (possibly Paul and Kristin), and just rode past. Things could have been so different. I just listened to that part and wow, to think all he had to do was go back or call campus police and report it right when he got home. Crazy. Crazy how everything just worked out so perfectly for the Flores family to cover it up. |
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Post by jaygee on Mar 20, 2021 17:36:22 GMT -6
Just finished the podcast yesterday. The Flores family are so, so guilty. How devastating for the Smarts. Also, I was so furious at the Australian exchange student who saw people struggling (possibly Paul and Kristin), and just rode past. Things could have been so different. I just listened to that part and wow, to think all he had to do was go back or call campus police and report it right when he got home. Crazy. Crazy how everything just worked out so perfectly for the Flores family to cover it up. It made me think of the Brock Turner case and how exchange students did stop that rape and if they hadn’t intervened it could have been so much worse. |
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Post by Yogurt on Mar 20, 2021 17:42:08 GMT -6
So many things went perfectly wrong for a crew of dumbasses like the Flores family to get away with this for 25 years. The timing of the weekend I think in particular.
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Post by smilesp on Mar 20, 2021 21:29:13 GMT -6
So many things went perfectly wrong for a crew of dumbasses like the Flores family to get away with this for 25 years. The timing of the weekend I think in particular. This is why I don’t think he’s killed anyone else. I don’t think he would have gotten away with it again because he isn’t smart. He just got realllly lucky. |
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Post by sweptaway on Mar 20, 2021 22:02:56 GMT -6
Listening to Ruben absolutely refuse to answer questions about his work route is infuriating. My gosh.
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Post by Yogurt on Mar 20, 2021 23:36:59 GMT -6
Listening to Ruben absolutely refuse to answer questions about his work route is infuriating. My gosh. Like I can't imagine being the person questioning him?! GUILTY Ruben really got me with that bedliner though. That was too much. |
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Post by Cher on Mar 20, 2021 23:51:10 GMT -6
The Ruben deposition is where I had my horrible thoughts about how I would handle this. He was being such a fucking prick, refusing to acknowledge what his son did to that other kid while he was in school. He just so smug. I feel like some Italian Philly guys need to shake them down a bit. They will find out where Kristin is.
Again, I know this is not a popular opinion. But, damn, that family deserves to bury their daughter.
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Post by sweptaway on Mar 21, 2021 6:14:59 GMT -6
Listening to Ruben absolutely refuse to answer questions about his work route is infuriating. My gosh. Like I can't imagine being the person questioning him?! GUILTY Ruben really got me with that bedliner though. That was too much. And the previous lawsuit against Paul? What lawsuit? Was there more than one? What lawsuit? The one where you paid $ because your kid put someone in the hospital? Oh, THAT lawsuit. Ahhhhhhh |
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Post by sweptaway on Mar 21, 2021 6:15:55 GMT -6
Cher I was listening right before bed last night and my blood pressure was uupppp too much
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Post by sweptaway on Mar 21, 2021 6:17:07 GMT -6
Yogurt I have no idea how those people didn't reach across the table and strangle him. And when Paul was pleading the 5th. Yiiiikkkes.
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Post by Cher on Mar 21, 2021 6:54:27 GMT -6
Cher I was listening right before bed last night and my blood pressure was uupppp too much He’s such an ass. You could tell he thought he was being so smart. |
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Post by sweptaway on Mar 21, 2021 10:59:26 GMT -6
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So I'm cheap and whiny
