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Post by Yogurt on Oct 18, 2022 18:47:13 GMT -6
First degree murder is odd to me too. I think he accidentally killed her while raping her
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Post by Sundae on Oct 18, 2022 18:59:56 GMT -6
First degree murder is odd to me too. I think he accidentally killed her while raping her I think that's due to the "in the process of committing a specific felony" while the murder occurred portion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule_(California)So not while premeditated in this case, but while committing the rape. I'm NAL, though, but I think that's why it's the case.
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Post by Yogurt on Oct 18, 2022 19:22:33 GMT -6
Oh that makes sense then
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Post by auburn on Oct 19, 2022 9:10:38 GMT -6
First degree murder is odd to me too. I think he accidentally killed her while raping her I think that's due to the "in the process of committing a specific felony" while the murder occurred portion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule_(California)So not while premeditated in this case, but while committing the rape. I'm NAL, though, but I think that's why it's the case. This is the explanation that I saw. I don’t think they will ever tell where she is. They truly just don’t care.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 19, 2022 16:45:42 GMT -6
I would not tell on myself if it were me. If someone is going around raping and killing then I wouldn't expect them to take the moral high ground suddenly and do the right thing.
Most killers that have were cold busted. That is not the case here.
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Post by smilesp on Oct 20, 2022 5:25:30 GMT -6
I think that's due to the "in the process of committing a specific felony" while the murder occurred portion. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule_(California)So not while premeditated in this case, but while committing the rape. I'm NAL, though, but I think that's why it's the case. This is the explanation that I saw. I don’t think they will ever tell where she is. They truly just don’t care. The Flores family has such animosity towards the Smarts that I’m sure they’ll never tell out of spite, if nothing else.
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Post by McBenny on Aug 25, 2023 8:21:45 GMT -6
Paul Flores was moved to a new prison last week and then attacked a couple of days ago. Throat cut. Not dead. He remains in serious condition. Dept of Corrections would not really confirm attack but said it was under investigation.
Anyway, his attorney did confirm the attack.
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Post by agm04 on Aug 25, 2023 15:06:59 GMT -6
Paul Flores was moved to a new prison last week and then attacked a couple of days ago. Throat cut. Not dead. He remains in serious condition. Dept of Corrections would not really confirm attack but said it was under investigation. Anyway, his attorney did confirm the attack. i loved the smart family attorney's comments. “It was the conduct of Paul Flores that resulted in Kristin Smart’s death. It was the conduct of Paul Flores that put him in prison where he belongs. My office and the Smart family do not condone violence. Sometimes in life, your karma comes.”
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Post by Yogurt on May 10, 2024 14:52:42 GMT -6
Chris Lambert is presenting at my work today (like he is standing 5 feet in front of me).
Do we have anything we want to ask him? It's a 2 hour q and a.
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Post by agm04 on May 16, 2024 8:43:10 GMT -6
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Post by Yogurt on May 16, 2024 23:04:12 GMT -6
It was extremely cool to have the opportunity to ask him whatever we wanted to about the case. He came specifically to speak to the criminology students, but because the crime happened here, they opened it up to the whole school as like a current event kind of a deal. The kids had so many good questions. Because the podcast came out a while ago at this point, the students were pretty young and didn't know a lot about. So many staff were there too to ask a million questions.
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Post by Yogurt on Jun 29, 2024 23:04:34 GMT -6
So Susan Flores got a job basically across the street from where the billboard in front of the lawyers office is and the local townsfolk are shocked.
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Jun 30, 2024 6:04:14 GMT -6
That whole family is sick and their total indignation is maddening. At least Paul Flores is in a place where his mommy and daddy aren't covering up for and protecting him. He's been attacked at least a couple times. Cannot believe he will be up for parole in 2037, that seems awfully early. Not sure he would get out, but given he had all those extra years to roam free and assault other women it seems he could stand to wait longer to try to get out.
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