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Post by roloma on Aug 27, 2020 11:43:17 GMT -6
Iowa had 1475 new cases in the last 24 hours (the highest daily number to date) and 18 more deaths. Our hospitalization is close the highest it has been. I am never going to get to hug my parents again at this rate. Schools just started back this week...I can't even imagine what the numbers will be like for the next few weeks. Fuck everything 2020. I hate this place so much. My kids are back in school 2-3 days a week and I'm so incredibly anxious about it. I'm so sorry. My cousin and her husband are both teachers. He isn't back yet but she is and her kids are in school 2-3 days a week as well. At this point, in this place it is very much a matter of when not if. It is terrifying and really fucking disappointing. There is no regard for the health of kids or teachers.
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Post by nelzie on Aug 27, 2020 11:46:51 GMT -6
Iowa had 1475 new cases in the last 24 hours (the highest daily number to date) and 18 more deaths. Our hospitalization is close the highest it has been. I am never going to get to hug my parents again at this rate. Schools just started back this week...I can't even imagine what the numbers will be like for the next few weeks. Fuck everything 2020. I really worry that clean up from the derecho is going to spike numbers. Community cleanup means that people who were distancing from others didn’t as they were helping one another. It’s a shitty situation on top of a shitty disaster. I'm so worried about this. My husband was out helping people clear away trees and I was like please tell me you were keeping your distance. He said since he was running the chainsaw people were keeping away from him, lol. I definitely think we will see number rise due to the derecho. Add in school starting and its all just a huge mess.
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Post by nelzie on Aug 27, 2020 11:48:09 GMT -6
Reynolds just held a press conference to update on the situation. Almost all of the uncontrolled spread is occurring in 3 counties...the ones with major universities that opened in the last week. Oh, no fucking kidding, lady? She has closed bars, taverns, breweries, and nightclubs in 6 counties. Restaurants can serve alcohol but only until 10pm. Gatherings over 10 people must ensure social distancing and I think she limited gatherings to 25 people. She "strongly encouraged" wearing face masks. When asked why she won't just issue a mask mandate she said because it can't be enforced and she trusts people to do the right thing. Yep, that's been working really well so far, obviously. She was also asked about the towns/cities that have issued mask mandates and said basically that they are only strongly enforcing them there because those mayors can't override her declaration that doesn't have a mandate. Such bullshit. I’m shocked she actually closed bars, etc. it’s a logical step (I can’t even imagine being a college student in IC and not going to the bars...I would have probably been one of those dumb students). It’s just surprising that after balking at all these other states for doing similar measures, now Iowa is taking a step. Right? I'm shocked she did anything. Its a baby step for sure but I guess at least she did something.
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Post by nelzie on Aug 27, 2020 11:57:48 GMT -6
I hate this place so much. My kids are back in school 2-3 days a week and I'm so incredibly anxious about it. I'm so sorry. My cousin and her husband are both teachers. He isn't back yet but she is and her kids are in school 2-3 days a week as well. At this point, in this place it is very much a matter of when not if. It is terrifying and really fucking disappointing. There is no regard for the health of kids or teachers. I feel like our school is doing the best they can. My kids have 10 kids in their classes and they require masks. I felt pretty okay about sending them but not really anymore. A lot of people around here seem to think we will be able to go back full time after the initial 9 weeks of hybrid. I can't imagine school will even last that long before getting shut down.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 27, 2020 13:13:11 GMT -6
I really worry that clean up from the derecho is going to spike numbers. Community cleanup means that people who were distancing from others didn’t as they were helping one another. It’s a shitty situation on top of a shitty disaster. I'm so worried about this. My husband was out helping people clear away trees and I was like please tell me you were keeping your distance. He said since he was running the chainsaw people were keeping away from him, lol. I definitely think we will see number rise due to the derecho. Add in school starting and its all just a huge mess. It might not be bad. I don't think there's been any evidence of prominent spread at the marches and protests. The fact that people are outdoors will help. Obviously it would be better if they were wearing masks.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 27, 2020 13:13:44 GMT -6
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Post by nelzie on Aug 27, 2020 13:27:38 GMT -6
I'm so worried about this. My husband was out helping people clear away trees and I was like please tell me you were keeping your distance. He said since he was running the chainsaw people were keeping away from him, lol. I definitely think we will see number rise due to the derecho. Add in school starting and its all just a huge mess. It might not be bad. I don't think there's been any evidence of prominent spread at the marches and protests. The fact that people are outdoors will help. Obviously it would be better if they were wearing masks. Yes I'm hoping the fact that its all outside will help. It was really hot here and people don't really wear masks here anyway 😩 I do feel like I saw a lot of people wearing masks at the protests but not so much with the derecho clean up. But also I think with the clean up they aren't really in close contact for long amounts of time, they are moving around a lot. Hopefully it won't be as bad as I'm anticipating. It just kind of blows my mind that Iowans are so quick to help in a disaster but ask them to wear a mask to protect people in a pandemic and they lose their shit.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Aug 27, 2020 13:34:01 GMT -6
It might not be bad. I don't think there's been any evidence of prominent spread at the marches and protests. The fact that people are outdoors will help. Obviously it would be better if they were wearing masks. Yes I'm hoping the fact that its all outside will help. It was really hot here and people don't really wear masks here anyway 😩 I do feel like I saw a lot of people wearing masks at the protests but not so much with the derecho clean up. But also I think with the clean up they aren't really in close contact for long amounts of time, they are moving around a lot. Hopefully it won't be as bad as I'm anticipating. It just kind of blows my mind that Iowans are so quick to help in a disaster but ask them to wear a mask to protect people in a pandemic and they lose their shit. This is such a good point. I love my home state “Iowa Strong” mentality, but dang apply that to wearing a mask is caring for your neighbor folks!
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Post by dc2london on Aug 27, 2020 14:06:54 GMT -6
I really think Rona has shown that it's time to retire the "Trust people to do the right thing" talking point. Forever.
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Post by Notarobot on Aug 27, 2020 14:43:34 GMT -6
I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well. But in regards to trusting people to do the right thing, I think maybe that might have been true once upon a time (e.g. indigenous communities) but our capitalist patriarchal society spends so much time drilling individualism and exceptionalism into us that it's killed that sense of community. We can't constantly talk about bootstraps and "self made" millionaires, while poorly funding ( or not offer at all, or demonize ) community initiatives and supports, then expect people to take care of each other when it's convenient. I don't know, I'm just angry at our societal structures and systems that are just so incredibly broken and unfair and good people doing good things at an individual level can't seem to turn the tide the other way. /end rant
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Aug 27, 2020 15:00:41 GMT -6
I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well. But in regards to trusting people to do the right thing, I think maybe that might have been true once upon a time (e.g. indigenous communities) but our capitalist patriarchal society spends so much time drilling individualism and exceptionalism into us that it's killed that sense of community. We can't constantly talk about bootstraps and "self made" millionaires, while poorly funding ( or not offer at all, or demonize ) community initiatives and supports, then expect people to take care of each other when it's convenient. I don't know, I'm just angry at our societal structures and systems that are just so incredibly broken and unfair and good people doing good things at an individual level can't seem to turn the tide the other way. /end rant This articulates a lot of how I’ve been feeling the last 4 years. It’s become so clear to me that a sense of community and helping others is not what people care about. People bitching about defunding social programs to help those less fortunate because people “take advantage of them” and “won’t actually want to work” drove it home to me. The fact that so many don’t think healthcare is a right and wouldn’t pay a little more in taxes (maybe) to ensure that others have access to healthcare is so startling to me. It’s pushed me further to the left than I ever have been, but also depresses me about my country. Dehumanizing those others has made it easy for those people to not care.
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Post by richard on Aug 27, 2020 15:04:33 GMT -6
Congress needs to get their fucking act together because Trump's EO isn't doing shit for people and it's going to be September 1st soon.
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Post by richard on Aug 27, 2020 15:08:05 GMT -6
I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well. But in regards to trusting people to do the right thing, I think maybe that might have been true once upon a time (e.g. indigenous communities) but our capitalist patriarchal society spends so much time drilling individualism and exceptionalism into us that it's killed that sense of community. We can't constantly talk about bootstraps and "self made" millionaires, while poorly funding ( or not offer at all, or demonize ) community initiatives and supports, then expect people to take care of each other when it's convenient. I don't know, I'm just angry at our societal structures and systems that are just so incredibly broken and unfair and good people doing good things at an individual level can't seem to turn the tide the other way. /end rant This articulates a lot of how I’ve been feeling the last 4 years. It’s become so clear to me that a sense of community and helping others is not what people care about. People bitching about defunding social programs to help those less fortunate because people “take advantage of them” and “won’t actually want to work” drove it home to me. The fact that so many don’t think healthcare is a right and wouldn’t pay a little more in taxes (maybe) to ensure that others have access to healthcare is so startling to me. It’s pushed me further to the left than I ever have been, but also depresses me about my country. Dehumanizing those others has made it easy for those people to not care. I can't find it now but there was a graphic going around after the 2016 election that shows different spheres of who people care about. The smallest was basically immediate family/friends, then extended personal networks, the larger communities that they identify with and society as a whole...or something along those lines. I've discovered how many people - when it comes down to it - only really care about those first couple of spheres despite what they may say to the contrary.
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Post by Notarobot on Aug 27, 2020 15:25:50 GMT -6
I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well. But in regards to trusting people to do the right thing, I think maybe that might have been true once upon a time (e.g. indigenous communities) but our capitalist patriarchal society spends so much time drilling individualism and exceptionalism into us that it's killed that sense of community. We can't constantly talk about bootstraps and "self made" millionaires, while poorly funding ( or not offer at all, or demonize ) community initiatives and supports, then expect people to take care of each other when it's convenient. I don't know, I'm just angry at our societal structures and systems that are just so incredibly broken and unfair and good people doing good things at an individual level can't seem to turn the tide the other way. /end rant This articulates a lot of how I’ve been feeling the last 4 years. It’s become so clear to me that a sense of community and helping others is not what people care about. People bitching about defunding social programs to help those less fortunate because people “take advantage of them” and “won’t actually want to work” drove it home to me. The fact that so many don’t think healthcare is a right and wouldn’t pay a little more in taxes (maybe) to ensure that others have access to healthcare is so startling to me. It’s pushed me further to the left than I ever have been, but also depresses me about my country. Dehumanizing those others has made it easy for those people to not care. Definitely. I'm much further left than I've ever been, and I've always been pretty left even by Canadian big city standards. I'm at the point now where I just don't know how we can change these systems enough. We need to restart in so many ways. It's such a long road in front of us.
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Post by orangebird2020 on Aug 27, 2020 21:48:56 GMT -6
Congress needs to get their fucking act together because Trump's EO isn't doing shit for people and it's going to be September 1st soon. My state was just cleared to participate in this lost wages program to start paying out the $300 back dated to July 25th. They aren't listed on this post. I am not clear on the difference between the $600 and the $300, but it seems like there may be more work for a state to participate in the $300 program.
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Post by blurnette989 on Aug 28, 2020 1:18:20 GMT -6
Congress needs to get their fucking act together because Trump's EO isn't doing shit for people and it's going to be September 1st soon. My state was just cleared to participate in this lost wages program to start paying out the $300 back dated to July 25th. They aren't listed on this post. I am not clear on the difference between the $600 and the $300, but it seems like there may be more work for a state to participate in the $300 program. It is a lot more work because based in the way the EO was worded it requires a whole new assessment of the person's precovid earnings, and building a new equation for who deserves the $200 from the fed govt. Also the state has to chip in that last $100 so many states have to approve that funding. There was a report that it could take some states 4 months to implement it. It is just so much more complicated than a flat $600 a week.
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Post by piratecat on Aug 28, 2020 11:53:20 GMT -6
Our State CDC read the new US CDC testing recommendation and pointed out the part that says you don't need to get tested if you are asymptomatic, close contact of a confirmed case, unless your healthcare provider or the state health official recommends it and that he absolutely recommends being tested. He made a point of distinguishing state CDC from the US CDC and that they will continue their testing policy which is what's best for public health. And then they made an announcement for expanding testing.
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Post by piratecat on Aug 28, 2020 11:57:35 GMT -6
Like quadrupling their testing capacity. I hope this bodes well for our state going forward.
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Post by Ls2012 on Aug 28, 2020 14:23:28 GMT -6
I have spent $800 in the past 2 weeks making a proper learning/ studying space for my kids. I just got the supply list from the virtual school. It's 4 pages. 4, double column, pages long. For 1 grade.
I'm going to cry.
This is so frustrating and exhausting and it hasn't even started yet.
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Post by millimeter314 on Aug 28, 2020 14:27:53 GMT -6
I have spent $800 in the past 2 weeks making a proper learning/ studying space for my kids. I just got the supply list from the virtual school. It's 4 pages. 4, double column, pages long. For 1 grade. I'm going to cry. This is so frustrating and exhausting and it hasn't even started yet. What the heck is on that list?
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Post by Ls2012 on Aug 28, 2020 14:42:29 GMT -6
I have spent $800 in the past 2 weeks making a proper learning/ studying space for my kids. I just got the supply list from the virtual school. It's 4 pages. 4, double column, pages long. For 1 grade. I'm going to cry. This is so frustrating and exhausting and it hasn't even started yet. What the heck is on that list? Well, this is the math list for kindergarten. And then there are similar lists for ELA, science, and social studies. No single item seems crazy, but taken in it's entirety? Exhausting.
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Post by oreobitsy on Aug 28, 2020 15:02:32 GMT -6
That’s a lot. I think it would have been more helpful to organize by date needed. While they probably will use those items, it’s really overwhelming.
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Post by millimeter314 on Aug 28, 2020 15:49:41 GMT -6
That’s a lot. I think it would have been more helpful to organize by date needed. While they probably will use those items, it’s really overwhelming. I agree—that list is insane.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 17:18:54 GMT -6
What the heck is on that list? Well, this is the math list for kindergarten. And then there are similar lists for ELA, science, and social studies. No single item seems crazy, but taken in it's entirety? Exhausting. What the hell? This is ridiculous. No. Come on now. Lol I’m in shock.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 17:23:28 GMT -6
My 3rd graders class list was like a dozen items or so. Handful of art supplies. And a xylophone for music. That’s it for the year. And the school provided workbooks and a binder.
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Post by beaf12 on Aug 28, 2020 17:30:19 GMT -6
Our school has about a dozen items on the supply list, usual stuff: folders, notebooks, crayons. Then they hand out supply bags with anything special that the school should usually provide. Example last spring my first grader had bubbles, cotton balls and microwave popcorn in his supply bag. These each had an activity to go with them at some point in our distance learning. Now we ate the popcorn before the lesson 😬, but I had more by the time he needed it!
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Post by byjove on Aug 28, 2020 18:41:42 GMT -6
My 2nd grader is pencils, pencil sharpener, lined notebook, blank white paper, crayons, markers, headphones. Chrome book provided. Uncaripswife are you similar?
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Post by dc2london on Aug 28, 2020 19:15:52 GMT -6
I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well. But in regards to trusting people to do the right thing, I think maybe that might have been true once upon a time (e.g. indigenous communities) but our capitalist patriarchal society spends so much time drilling individualism and exceptionalism into us that it's killed that sense of community. We can't constantly talk about bootstraps and "self made" millionaires, while poorly funding ( or not offer at all, or demonize ) community initiatives and supports, then expect people to take care of each other when it's convenient. I don't know, I'm just angry at our societal structures and systems that are just so incredibly broken and unfair and good people doing good things at an individual level can't seem to turn the tide the other way. /end rant This articulates a lot of how I’ve been feeling the last 4 years. It’s become so clear to me that a sense of community and helping others is not what people care about. People bitching about defunding social programs to help those less fortunate because people “take advantage of them” and “won’t actually want to work” drove it home to me. The fact that so many don’t think healthcare is a right and wouldn’t pay a little more in taxes (maybe) to ensure that others have access to healthcare is so startling to me. It’s pushed me further to the left than I ever have been, but also depresses me about my country. Dehumanizing those others has made it easy for those people to not care. IMO Reagan is to blame for a good deal of this. Rugged individualism, bootstraps meritocracy, etc were already ingrained in America but he really ran with and talked up the "welfare queen" myth that definitely shaped the political ideology of a lot of the upper middle class white early Millennial white guys I grew up around.
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Post by dc2london on Aug 28, 2020 19:17:46 GMT -6
I remember going hard in the paint against a floppy haired entitled white jerk in my 8th grade social studies class that thought welfare should be eliminated. The teacher didn't even bother to intervene, he just let us go at it 😂
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Post by Uncaripswife on Aug 28, 2020 19:46:33 GMT -6
My 2nd grader is pencils, pencil sharpener, lined notebook, blank white paper, crayons, markers, headphones. Chrome book provided. Uncaripswife are you similar? Where'd you get a list from? I know nothing.
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