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Post by emma on Oct 21, 2019 21:03:59 GMT -6
I wish everyone would vote for the party they like most and not be strategic otherwise you will forever be stuck in a 2 horse race.
It’s bringing me great joy that the people’s party don’t have a single seat yet and Maxim is likely to lose his current one.
ETA he did lose his seat. Mwwwhahahaha
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Post by August Blooms on Oct 21, 2019 21:04:10 GMT -6
Anyone else notice Marie Henein on the CBC coverage?
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Post by misskilljoy on Oct 21, 2019 21:05:29 GMT -6
I think Singh is maybe okay. He seems to be holding steady at 36% of the vote against the Conservative candidate at 32%. But that is a close race - way closer than I would have expected.
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Post by jorkzy on Oct 21, 2019 21:05:38 GMT -6
I wish everyone would vote for the party they like most and not be strategic otherwise you will forever be stuck in a 2 horse race. It’s bringing me great joy that the people’s party don’t have a single seat yet and Maxim is likely to lose his current one. Right? Like, sure maybe the conservatives are gaining ground but at least no one elected the psycho far-rights.
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Post by misskilljoy on Oct 21, 2019 21:07:44 GMT -6
This is way, way, WAY closer to majority territory than I thought it would be. I am floored.
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Post by emma on Oct 21, 2019 21:08:11 GMT -6
Looks like my riding will go liberal. Meh, I voted NDP but it could be worse. On the plus side the 3 people running in my riding were all women
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Post by jorkzy on Oct 21, 2019 21:12:43 GMT -6
This is way, way, WAY closer to majority territory than I thought it would be. I am floored. Interestingly the CBC site shows the two parties neck and neck with actual vote numbers (both right around 2.4 million each right now), but a difference of 40 seats in favour of the liberals.
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Post by misskilljoy on Oct 21, 2019 21:14:53 GMT -6
This is way, way, WAY closer to majority territory than I thought it would be. I am floored. Interestingly the CBC site shows the two parties neck and neck with actual vote numbers (both right around 2.4 million each right now), but a difference of 40 seats in favour of the liberals. Yeah, Libs are more popular in riding-rich metro areas, so they can easily get more seats with fewer votes overall. The Conservatives like to bitch about it at every given opportunity.
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Post by enchanted on Oct 21, 2019 21:16:11 GMT -6
Took me several pages to realize a riding is a district. Oof, enchanted. Just oof.
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Post by leatherpants on Oct 21, 2019 21:17:04 GMT -6
I wish everyone would vote for the party they like most and not be strategic otherwise you will forever be stuck in a 2 horse race. It’s bringing me great joy that the people’s party don’t have a single seat yet and Maxim is likely to lose his current one. ETA he did lose his seat. Mwwwhahahaha
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Post by leatherpants on Oct 21, 2019 21:20:05 GMT -6
Ok but did CBC say something about the Conservatives don’t want to appeal to the “smarty pants” vote?
Like my gosh. That’s insulting for one thing and also, so you think your own supporters are stupid or uneducated?
I get the whole elitist educational thing but that is not a good look.
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Post by jorkzy on Oct 21, 2019 21:25:39 GMT -6
Ok but did CBC say something about the Conservatives don’t want to appeal to the “smarty pants” vote? Like my gosh. That’s insulting for one thing and also, so you think your own supporters are stupid or uneducated? I get the whole elitist educational thing but that is not a good look. I don’t get it. (Is this ironic?)
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Post by leatherpants on Oct 21, 2019 21:28:57 GMT -6
Ok but did CBC say something about the Conservatives don’t want to appeal to the “smarty pants” vote? Like my gosh. That’s insulting for one thing and also, so you think your own supporters are stupid or uneducated? I get the whole elitist educational thing but that is not a good look. I don’t get it. (Is this ironic?) My cable is constantly cutting out and I’m about to throw my tv but I think they were saying the strategy of the Conservatives was to appeal to the uneducated people. The not “smarty pants”. Which I think is kind of horrid if that’s their actual strategy. But also I could have not heard the complete exchange.
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Post by misskilljoy on Oct 21, 2019 21:32:05 GMT -6
HELL YEAH, LISA RAITT LOST HER SEAT
Sorry, I got a little excited here. I mean, she wasn't terrible, but I think that's a huge message to the Cons.
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Post by leatherpants on Oct 21, 2019 22:11:13 GMT -6
Oh good god. The FB whining has begun.
One post is begging the States to invade us. Lots of Alberta separatism posts. Mmmkay.
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Post by jorkzy on Oct 21, 2019 22:16:47 GMT -6
Oh good god. The FB whining has begun. One post is begging the States to invade us. Lots of Alberta separatism posts. Mmmkay. Lol 🙄
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Post by ktg on Oct 21, 2019 22:31:10 GMT -6
I know LOTS AND LOTS of bleeding-heart liberal Americans who would love to "invade" Canada. That's what they want, yeah? A whole bunch more smarty-pants libs, but American ones?
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Post by emma on Oct 21, 2019 22:37:39 GMT -6
Oh good god. The FB whining has begun. One post is begging the States to invade us. Lots of Alberta separatism posts. Mmmkay. the AB politics are clearly the worst part of my upcoming move there. Maybe if I can convince enough west coast liberals to move we can baby step towards progress
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Post by emma on Oct 21, 2019 22:39:17 GMT -6
And my riding is still coming in but the NDP is currently leading so early liberal count was not accurate 💃🏻
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Post by 4PrivetDrive on Oct 21, 2019 22:49:35 GMT -6
Took me several pages to realize a riding is a district. Oof, enchanted. Just oof. I didn’t get it until this post, so thank you.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 22, 2019 5:47:31 GMT -6
Oh good god. The FB whining has begun. One post is begging the States to invade us. Lots of Alberta separatism posts. Mmmkay. Can we work out a swap? Batshit right wingers can have one country and progressive liberals can have another and everyone else can have Montana?
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Post by kittyriot on Oct 22, 2019 6:29:01 GMT -6
I don’t get it. (Is this ironic?) My cable is constantly cutting out and I’m about to throw my tv but I think they were saying the strategy of the Conservatives was to appeal to the uneducated people. The not “smarty pants”. Which I think is kind of horrid if that’s their actual strategy. But also I could have not heard the complete exchange. You are totally correct. Basically they’re not working at growing their base supporters (which is one of the stark difference between the cons and the progressives). They don’t believe their base has room to grow, which basically means they’re discounting all progressive voters who let’s say are fiscally conservative but support gay marriage, climate support, abortion rights etc.... Personally I think they could actually appeal to an interesting group of millennials if they came out stronger with clear statements on the above. Not that I want them to get all progressive like that.
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Post by jorkzy on Oct 22, 2019 6:43:39 GMT -6
So I’m looking again at the p pulse vote vs seats again this morning and as pleased as I am that the PC did not win, I don’t like that they actually got more votes. Super close but still. And it bothers me a lot that the NDP got double the votes that the Bloc got, but 30% fewer seats. So we are saying that a vote in Quebec means more than a vote elsewhere?
I’m sure my PC MP will be happy to bring my concerns forward over the next 4 years.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 22, 2019 7:35:22 GMT -6
So I’m looking again at the p pulse vote vs seats again this morning and as pleased as I am that the PC did not win, I don’t like that they actually got more votes. Super close but still. And it bothers me a lot that the NDP got double the votes that the Bloc got, but 30% fewer seats. So we are saying that a vote in Quebec means more than a vote elsewhere? I’m sure my PC MP will be happy to bring my concerns forward over the next 4 years. A vote in Wyoming is worth 4x as much as a vote in California. It sucks.
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Post by valiente on Oct 22, 2019 8:35:26 GMT -6
I voted third party, for the record. Liberals still took my riding. I’m okay with a Liberal minority, but I wish there was more NDP and Green representation.
I’m nursing an election hangover this morning. Congratulations to everyone who participated.
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Post by emma on Oct 22, 2019 8:43:11 GMT -6
My cable is constantly cutting out and I’m about to throw my tv but I think they were saying the strategy of the Conservatives was to appeal to the uneducated people. The not “smarty pants”. Which I think is kind of horrid if that’s their actual strategy. But also I could have not heard the complete exchange. You are totally correct. Basically they’re not working at growing their base supporters (which is one of the stark difference between the cons and the progressives). They don’t believe their base has room to grow, which basically means they’re discounting all progressive voters who let’s say are fiscally conservative but support gay marriage, climate support, abortion rights etc.... Personally I think they could actually appeal to an interesting group of millennials if they came out stronger with clear statements on the above. Not that I want them to get all progressive like that. this is something. MH basically fits into your description as fiscally conservative but socially liberal. We had a lot of talks running up to this election and he voted NDP in the end because he believes human rights obviously take priority over economy. But if the Cons did better on human rights he could easily be swung that way
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Post by emma on Oct 22, 2019 8:55:55 GMT -6
So I’m looking again at the p pulse vote vs seats again this morning and as pleased as I am that the PC did not win, I don’t like that they actually got more votes. Super close but still. And it bothers me a lot that the NDP got double the votes that the Bloc got, but 30% fewer seats. So we are saying that a vote in Quebec means more than a vote elsewhere? I’m sure my PC MP will be happy to bring my concerns forward over the next 4 years. this bothers me too but am also glad the system kept the PC out, so I’m a hypocrite over here. I would love to see us move to a proportional representation model but I’m not sure that would address this particular issue
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Post by emma on Oct 22, 2019 8:58:17 GMT -6
I just checked my riding and the final result was it went conservative by 300 votes over NDP. Uggggh
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Post by cdnfroggy on Oct 22, 2019 10:55:08 GMT -6
I'm just finding this thread now, but I can't with facebook today. So many people are so proud my whole province was blue and "that'll show em" and "lets separate" etc. etc. I feel like my vote never counts because my riding always votes conservative.
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Post by kittyriot on Oct 22, 2019 11:30:53 GMT -6
You are totally correct. Basically they’re not working at growing their base supporters (which is one of the stark difference between the cons and the progressives). They don’t believe their base has room to grow, which basically means they’re discounting all progressive voters who let’s say are fiscally conservative but support gay marriage, climate support, abortion rights etc.... Personally I think they could actually appeal to an interesting group of millennials if they came out stronger with clear statements on the above. Not that I want them to get all progressive like that. this is something. MH basically fits into your description as fiscally conservative but socially liberal. We had a lot of talks running up to this election and he voted NDP in the end because he believes human rights obviously take priority over economy. But if the Cons did better on human rights he could easily be swung that way I know a ton of people who vote liberal, who could easily be swayed conservative (my H as well) if there were stronger statements on the things I mention. But like your H, human rights matter more than unappealing and disinterested statements on not re-opening the abortion debate.
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