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Post by Lord Disick on Feb 6, 2018 12:25:10 GMT -6
I got challenged to a pushup contest by a 12 year old on Christmas Eve. This was at a fairly large party with all of our neighbors and friends. I of course took up the challenge right there in the kitchen. Afterward my neighbor asked me why I liked working out so much. He said something about why do women want to have muscles like men? It was honestly one of the strangest things I had ever heard. I wish I could say I gave him some amazing answer that changed his line of thinking but I'm sure I bungled it. I told him I worked out and ran because I wanted to stay fit. It was also time out of my week where I was solely focused on my and not my family. I also said that I didn't think muscular women were unattractive or wanting to look like men. So I can punch people like you harder? This is clearly the best possible response.
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Post by Lord Disick on Feb 6, 2018 12:29:03 GMT -6
Noom was the worst. Just awful. I still get ads for it on FB and I chuckle. I see you noom. This one kills everytime. The "eat green shit on toast diet!" Revolutionary! Smart! (I saved that screenshot a long time ago because I knew I would need it here someday)
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Post by yoginikiki on Feb 6, 2018 12:30:51 GMT -6
"Eat lots of vegetables but with us you can totally have bread!! And cheese!!!"
I see you noom.
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Post by Lord Disick on Feb 6, 2018 12:37:02 GMT -6
So, this is a little different for me because culturally out here in the Bay Area, it’s super trendy to be into healthy eating and so much exercise. I was the odd man out when I rejected that for...four or five years. I get asked a lot about my weight loss and I do talk about WW, but it’s a bit “old school” for people out here because they mostly act like we are just supposed to love kale and vegan substitutes for everything without effort. But, I’ve received good responses and, overall, a lot of support from friends. I do appreciate that people are always down to hang out by going on a hike or an exercise class. Anyways, I only sort of related to that part. I’m general though, I kind of wish it was just a keep your eyes on your own paper thing. Like I’m down for talking about it and supporting each other, but I hate when it veers into a competition. Like if I’m in go mode and a friend is not feeling motivated and maybe gaining weight, I don’t want her to feel judged by my loss or focus on losing/getting in shape. Or vice versa. I just want us to be happy for each other for the phase of our journey we are in and support each other when we want to make a change. But I don’t want to compete or have weird judgey feelings hanging in the air. I hate talking about weight and diet IRL. It never feels productive or healthy but I love talking with all of you ladies. I don't know why that is. Maybe it's because we're not stealing glances at each other's muffin tops or maybe it's because I know our kids can't hear us.
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Post by ripper on Feb 6, 2018 12:45:28 GMT -6
My son asked me the last week, on my way out the door to the gym, if I was going to the gym to be skinny. Ugh, the awareness of a 6 year old is staggering. Of course I corrected him and told him that I want to get stronger and feel better. He takes it in and finally responds, "so you want to be able to open jars by yourself?". Kids, man.
Anyway, yesterday, when I came home from the gym, my son - seemingly out of nowhere, says, "Hi mom, you look beautiful. And your bum is just like Kim Kardashian's". So, he's also very sweet. And clearly watches too much youtube if he knows that a round, poppin' ass is desirable.
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Post by Minerva on Feb 6, 2018 12:45:30 GMT -6
So, this is a little different for me because culturally out here in the Bay Area, it’s super trendy to be into healthy eating and so much exercise. I was the odd man out when I rejected that for...four or five years. I get asked a lot about my weight loss and I do talk about WW, but it’s a bit “old school” for people out here because they mostly act like we are just supposed to love kale and vegan substitutes for everything without effort. But, I’ve received good responses and, overall, a lot of support from friends. I do appreciate that people are always down to hang out by going on a hike or an exercise class. Anyways, I only sort of related to that part. I’m general though, I kind of wish it was just a keep your eyes on your own paper thing. Like I’m down for talking about it and supporting each other, but I hate when it veers into a competition. Like if I’m in go mode and a friend is not feeling motivated and maybe gaining weight, I don’t want her to feel judged by my loss or focus on losing/getting in shape. Or vice versa. I just want us to be happy for each other for the phase of our journey we are in and support each other when we want to make a change. But I don’t want to compete or have weird judgey feelings hanging in the air. I hate talking about weight and diet IRL. It never feels productive or healthy but I love talking with all of you ladies. I don't know why that is. Maybe it's because we're not stealing glances at each other's muffin tops or maybe it's because I know our kids can't hear us. I’ve learned so much here that has been positive for my health. thisbitch is an awesome cheerleader, GhoatMonket is super-knowledgeable and levelheaded about training and sports nutrition, and the WLC, C25K, and Fitbit ladies have provided great community and motivation. People post awesome healthy recipes in the meal plans and weight loss threads. I also find this community to be very honest and supportive about promoting mental health.
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Post by adelbert on Feb 6, 2018 12:46:51 GMT -6
I still get ads for it on FB and I chuckle. I see you noom. This one kills everytime. The "eat green shit on toast diet!" Revolutionary! Smart! (I saved that screenshot a long time ago because I knew I would need it here someday) Two of those are dry pieces of bread with no spread. One with limes and something I can't decipher and one with what I think is zucchini. I really hope no one is eating that. I would be so depressed if that was my lunch. I mean lime slices?! Ugh.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Feb 6, 2018 12:49:28 GMT -6
I still get ads for it on FB and I chuckle. I see you noom. This one kills everytime. The "eat green shit on toast diet!" Revolutionary! Smart! (I saved that screenshot a long time ago because I knew I would need it here someday) I assumed this was them poking fun at some of the absurd diet things people do.
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jaidit
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Post by jaidit on Feb 6, 2018 12:51:22 GMT -6
I often think (and worry) and raising DD in Paris and how it will affect her relationship with food and body image. There is an attitude of loving yourself as is, embracing your flaws as beautiful, etc. Yet, at the same time, most women are very skinny and I imagine it must be really difficult to not fit into that mold. There was a recent stat that 70% of Parisian girls have tried a cig by age 12. While I know a big part of that is social pressure, they’re also talked about as an appetite suppressant and that scares me.
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mack
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Post by mack on Feb 6, 2018 12:51:55 GMT -6
I feel like my mom diet shames me. Sometimes I wonder if it's because she lived through all diet fads of the 80/90s. I feel like she associates anything that restricts your food with disordered eating. I do flexible dieting and stick to a set of macros. But to hit your macros, it requires that you weigh out your food to make sure you aren't under estimating or overestimating your portions. I hate weighing my food in front of her because she thinks I am trying to be anorexic. When in fact, I am probably weighing my meat to make sure I am getting enough protein. I'm jumping in to say this is exactly how I live my life. I have a food scale on my desk at work and it makes me nuts when people walk in as I'm weighing my food and they have to comment on it usually in a negative light...even though they are "joking". I'm not dieting, not that it matters if I was, I'm living my lifestyle that I've been living for years. It's healthy, it works for me, it ensures I'm getting enough protein to sustain my muscle gain, enough carbs for energy to sustain my workouts, and enough healthy fats to keep my hormones leveled out. It's also helped me learn and be more disciplined about micro nutrients. I can't stand the constant comments from the peanut gallery though. YES. The other day I took my scale into the kitchen at work to measure out my greek yogurt (again to make sure that I was getting enough to get the protein that I wanted) and this dude was like "omg are you weight your yogurt?!"
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Post by cribs on Feb 6, 2018 12:55:44 GMT -6
I weigh everything my kid eats because of pku and track his daily calories. Its a Total pain in the ass but it is what is. The positive for me has been that I realize I eat so much mindless shit and how much I really am eating.
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adelbert
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Post by adelbert on Feb 6, 2018 12:55:47 GMT -6
This one kills everytime. The "eat green shit on toast diet!" Revolutionary! Smart! (I saved that screenshot a long time ago because I knew I would need it here someday) I assumed this was them poking fun at some of the absurd diet things people do. Gotcha- I thought this was their idea of a smarter way to diet. I'm an idiot.
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cribs
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Post by cribs on Feb 6, 2018 12:56:15 GMT -6
Also, I really just want to wear my old pants
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2018 12:58:33 GMT -6
My son asked me the last week, on my way out the door to the gym, if I was going to the gym to be skinny. Ugh, the awareness of a 6 year old is staggering. Of course I corrected him and told him that I want to get stronger and feel better. He takes it in and finally responds, "so you want to be able to open jars by yourself?". Kids, man. Anyway, yesterday, when I came home from the gym, my son - seemingly out of nowhere, says, "Hi mom, you look beautiful. And your bum is just like Kim Kardashian's". So, he's also very sweet. And clearly watches too much youtube if he knows that a round, poppin' ass is desirable. Lol. That’s cute. DS woke up while H and I were exercising this morning and came in the room. He kindly pointed out that my hips were higher than H’s during our side plank dips “mommy’s higher. She’s doing better” and then told H I could do the next move any way I wanted. 🤣🤣 thanks for being on my side, kiddo.
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Post by angelashly on Feb 6, 2018 13:00:05 GMT -6
One thing I have going for us is that dd associates going to the gym as a way to be strong since SO lifts weights and she sees it as trying to be strong. She also knows that when I go to the gym it is for "dance" class which she looks at as fun.
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Post by pobre on Feb 6, 2018 13:01:19 GMT -6
I’m glad someone said something about the limes.
The fuck.
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Post by lynn0514 on Feb 6, 2018 13:05:45 GMT -6
...is just how controlled I need to be in my food choices, and how dedicated I need to be in my working out/exercise life, to reach my goals. But for me, the realization that I actually need to work out multiple times a week, every single week, and make good food choices 9 times out of 10, for the rest of time, has been a big one to process. It's not a diet/quick fix. It's just that I literally need to alter the way I live my life. This is soul crushing to me. I really think it's what stops me from meeting my body goals. I cannot fathom counting calories and tracking what I eat, day in day out for THE REST OF MY LIFE. And I reject any sentiment that it won't be necessary to track and put major mental effort into food choices forever because I have seen time and time again how easy it is to push pause on those things and settle right back into the 20 pounds I just lost. I want to kick and scream and break things because I don't want to put in the effort to maintain a healthy diet forever and ever. And yet I'm so tired of carrying this extra weight. So tired. Mostly-lurker here, haven't finished reading, but I just had to pop in and comment on this, because it hit home so hard. I lost a significant amount of weight about 15 years ago now, and this was the hardest part for me. The idea of putting the effort in for the rest of my life. I can't even spit out some positive line about how "it becomes natural" or "it's a lifestyle change!" It was hard to lose the weight, it requires effort to maintain, and my sweet tooth is as prominent as ever. But it's still the best darn thing I've ever done for myself.
Anyway, I'm on the journey now of trying to teach my daughters about self-love balanced with being healthy, and I think that's probably going to be my new "hardest thing I've ever done."
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mack
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Post by mack on Feb 6, 2018 13:06:26 GMT -6
Did anyone read the I’m always thin in my mind article? it was linked in one of the articles HE posted. That’s how I feel sometimes. Like in my head, I’m thin and then I see myself in a mirror or a picture and I am surprised at how I look. OK I hate to break it to you, but I have met you and you are also thin IRL.
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Post by rvasc on Feb 6, 2018 13:06:50 GMT -6
lime slices on bread is grossing me the eff out. The new diet strategy is to just look at photos of gross food until you lose your appetite.
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Post by leatherpants on Feb 6, 2018 13:06:51 GMT -6
The best thing that came out of my exercise habit for a year was DS' enthusiasm for it. Now he drags out the yoga mat, and my tracking book and does his "exercises" and pretends to write down his score, which is how I was doing it forever.
I'm looking forward to getting back into that because its cute AF to work out with him and I feel like this might be one thing I'm doing right in this area for him.
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mack
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Post by mack on Feb 6, 2018 13:11:00 GMT -6
I feel like my attitude is somewhere in the middle. I definitely eat and workout to look a certain way. But I also have my limits in terms of how far I am willing to push. Like if I have to never drink a glass of wine and subsist on plain chicken breast 24/7/365 to get six pack abs, it's not worth it. I would rather keep my pooch.
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Post by Lord Disick on Feb 6, 2018 13:18:41 GMT -6
This one kills everytime. The "eat green shit on toast diet!" Revolutionary! Smart! (I saved that screenshot a long time ago because I knew I would need it here someday) I assumed this was them poking fun at some of the absurd diet things people do. I really hope you're right and I think you are. I see these ads all the time and I've never read it that way.
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Post by Lord Disick on Feb 6, 2018 13:22:12 GMT -6
I often think (and worry) and raising DD in Paris and how it will affect her relationship with food and body image. There is an attitude of loving yourself as is, embracing your flaws as beautiful, etc. Yet, at the same time, most women are very skinny and I imagine it must be really difficult to not fit into that mold. There was a recent stat that 70% of Parisian girls have tried a cig by age 12. While I know a big part of that is social pressure, they’re also talked about as an appetite suppressant and that scares me. There was a NYT article a few months ago about being a fat woman in Paris and it was kind of heartbreaking. Of course the comments were all "this is why 'Murica is better" or "this is why you are all fat in America."
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Post by McBenny on Feb 6, 2018 13:23:59 GMT -6
Or fucking Or watching TV if you can't bring your mind to replace it with work I think preoccupation with anything is unhealthy, and I’m picking up what you’re putting down. I’m in a codependent relationship with a dog. You all think that’s healthy? And that's where I am coming from. I read it as there is an preoccupation with this topic here and it isn't just in fitness threads or during people's resolutions, etc. I also don't say that to say in any way what people can talk about.
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jaidit
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Post by jaidit on Feb 6, 2018 13:27:15 GMT -6
I often think (and worry) and raising DD in Paris and how it will affect her relationship with food and body image. There is an attitude of loving yourself as is, embracing your flaws as beautiful, etc. Yet, at the same time, most women are very skinny and I imagine it must be really difficult to not fit into that mold. There was a recent stat that 70% of Parisian girls have tried a cig by age 12. While I know a big part of that is social pressure, they’re also talked about as an appetite suppressant and that scares me. There was a NYT article a few months ago about being a fat woman in Paris and it was kind of heartbreaking. Of course the comments were all "this is why 'Murica is better" or "this is why you are all fat in America." Yeah my H has an overweight aunt and the comments our entire family make on a regular basis (including her mother and sisters) are absolutely horrible.
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Post by Lord Disick on Feb 6, 2018 13:34:49 GMT -6
I missed the thread on Friday so I'm lacking a little context here. I assume it was the usual "some of you seem obsessed with your weight and dieting" thing.
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Post by brux on Feb 6, 2018 13:41:50 GMT -6
Your first post was a great one, lynn0514. Thank you. I think the more I hear about it being really hard work, really not fun all the time work, might help me get over the mental hurdles I put in my own path. It's just...I love food and I love being lazy and I want everything to be easy.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Feb 6, 2018 13:42:36 GMT -6
I assumed this was them poking fun at some of the absurd diet things people do. I really hope you're right and I think you are. I see these ads all the time and I've never read it that way. They are clearly dropping the ball in either case.
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Post by jorkzy on Feb 6, 2018 13:48:57 GMT -6
Ok but there are different body types and some people really can eat whatever and not exercise and still be skinny. I am one of them, but I certainly don't talk about it at parties. Ive posted before that a nurse here at work joked about me being anorexic because of my size and I don't like that - I eat like a normal diet and have don't have body image issues. I can't help my body type any more than you can. Okay, but I think this "I can eat whatever and still be skinny" is not accurate, no matter the human being. You (or anyone) cannot eat pizza for breakfast, burgers, fries and soda for lunch, twinkies for snack and a giant bowl of spaghetti and meatballs with garlic bread for dinner, followed by a slice of cake each day, and still be skinny. Like that's not human anatomy, and if you eat all that and don't gain weight, you have a tapeworm. So where you are saying you eat a "normal" diet, for a lot of people, that's likely a more regimented diet than they are eating. I've been thinking about this all morning. I agree I don't eat like your example but I also don't think it is representative of the majority of people IRL. So the comparison is a bit strange. You could argue that of course most people eating like you stated will gain weight (barring medical disorder like CF or something). Going back to thisbitch's point, I guess I got stuck on the "effortless" comment, with the negative connotation that that person is lying or not being truthful about exercise/diet habits. I don't know where I'm going with this.
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Post by sterling on Feb 6, 2018 13:51:30 GMT -6
I get insanely uncomfortable whenever anyone talks about my body. It’s usually my mom or MIL, and it’s well intentioned-ish, but I read all “you look great” comments as “because you used to look like shit.”
Also I’m an obsessive dieter and exerciser all based on the I can’t afford new clothes model. I feel like whenever I decide I’m too lazy to watch what I eat I gain 20 pounds and it takes me a year to lose it. So now I work out every week and weigh myself every day and plan every meal in hopes that I can break this cycle once and for all.
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