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Post by babybean on Oct 12, 2023 21:56:32 GMT -6
Gazan’s are saying their final goodbyes online because power is cut and they won’t be able to reach anyone soon. 1500+ dead, hundreds of them children. 6500+ wounded, over a thousand children. Hundreds of thousands are displaced. These kids have lived their entires lives without knowing freedom. The footage almost made me throw up.
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Post by Sweetjane on Oct 13, 2023 4:52:09 GMT -6
Gazan’s are saying their final goodbyes online because power is cut and they won’t be able to reach anyone soon. 1500+ dead, hundreds of them children. 6500+ wounded, over a thousand children. Hundreds of thousands are displaced. These kids have lived their entires lives without knowing freedom. The footage almost made me throw up. Thank you for speaking up for those who do not have a voice, for reminding us that people are suffering in this horrific war when it seems like we have lost all sense of humanity.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2023 7:20:55 GMT -6
Israel is telling everyone in Gaza City to evacuate the area. How....does that work, exactly?
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Post by notblanche on Oct 13, 2023 7:27:15 GMT -6
Israel is telling everyone in Gaza City to evacuate the area. How....does that work, exactly? It doesn’t. The UN has said it’s going to have devastating consequences.
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Post by Sweetjane on Oct 13, 2023 7:32:14 GMT -6
Israel is telling everyone in Gaza City to evacuate the area. How....does that work, exactly? It doesn’t. The UN has said it’s going to have devastating consequences. I think that was a rhetorical question. They have no food, water, electricity and have never left before.
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Post by notblanche on Oct 13, 2023 7:34:18 GMT -6
It doesn’t. The UN has said it’s going to have devastating consequences. I think that was a rhetorical question. They have no food, water, electricity and have never left before. I know it was, thank you.
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Post by notblanche on Oct 13, 2023 7:36:45 GMT -6
We’re all processing the information together. My Jewish family members, my H’s family, are all staunchly pro Israel. And the propaganda they’re sharing is difficult for me to process
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Post by Cher on Oct 13, 2023 7:40:19 GMT -6
Israel is telling everyone in Gaza City to evacuate the area. How....does that work, exactly? It’s awful. They’re telling them to leave but there’s nowhere to go. Hamas is telling them to stay. I spent a lot of last night looking up what Israel allies are pushing for a humanitarian corridor because any other option is horrific.
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Post by notblanche on Oct 13, 2023 7:41:52 GMT -6
Israel is telling everyone in Gaza City to evacuate the area. How....does that work, exactly? It’s awful. They’re telling them to leave but there’s nowhere to go. Hamas is telling them to stay. I spent a lot of last night looking up what Israel allies are pushing for a humanitarian corridor because any other option is horrific. I just read an article about how Germany is working with the UN and Egypt and others to get people out. Let me see if I can find it again
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Post by notblanche on Oct 13, 2023 7:46:19 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2023 7:48:11 GMT -6
I heard on NPR that many elderly are refusing to evacuate which is just....so sad.
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Post by kbw on Oct 13, 2023 7:50:56 GMT -6
How are we still living in a time where forced relocation of a group of people is considered acceptable?
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Post by babybean on Oct 13, 2023 8:03:20 GMT -6
We’re all processing the information together. My Jewish family members, my H’s family, are all staunchly pro Israel. And the propaganda they’re sharing is difficult for me to process I’m so thankful for all of the Jewish community advocating for what’s right. I know it’s hurtful being told you’re a “self hating Jew” and to feel ostracized for speaking up. It takes a lot of courage.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 13, 2023 8:04:52 GMT -6
I’m having a hard time wrapping my head around the thought that this is going to happen to the Gazans and it will be invisible in the day and age when everything is documented and visible. I know the cruelty is the point but this is just unimaginable cruelty.
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Post by babybean on Oct 13, 2023 8:10:29 GMT -6
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Post by kbw on Oct 13, 2023 8:12:15 GMT -6
And if the US continues its unwavering support of Israel with the latest orders I feel like we are just as accountable for those deaths as Israel is.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 13, 2023 8:41:15 GMT -6
And if the US continues its unwavering support of Israel with the latest orders I feel like we are just as accountable for those deaths as Israel is. Hamas needs to be accountable for those deaths.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 13, 2023 8:43:30 GMT -6
@holliberry I can only speak for myself but I am not asking you to be self hating. I’m not advocating for any harm to come to the Jewish people. I fully blame Hamas for the actions of Hamas. They are a terrorist group full stop. I do not feel I’m being one-sided. I have deep concerns for Israeli citizens and Palestinian citizens that are suffering unspeakable horrors in this conflict.
This is a place for people to discuss all aspects of the conflict. To share their feelings and help share facts and resources. I believe this board/group of people would staunchly condemn antisemitism and pro-Hamas viewpoints.
I understand if you don’t feel the same. But regardless you are welcome here and I value your viewpoint. I am sending you love and healing during this time of immense tragedy for your community.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 13, 2023 8:45:09 GMT -6
Do you all know what Hamas continues to do to the hostages? It’s sick. And some of them are Americans. We should be showing our support to get our people out and end terrorism.
When a father cries and says thank god their child is dead instead of being in the hands of Hamas… bc of what they’d do to her.
Hamas has the blood on their hands.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 13, 2023 8:46:55 GMT -6
Hamas is recording deaths and rapes and sending them to family members.
Rapes of children.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 13, 2023 8:49:13 GMT -6
Cutting off water, electricity, and fuel is a violation of humanitarian law against collective punishment. That’s facts not feelings.
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Post by babybean on Oct 13, 2023 8:49:48 GMT -6
Nothing justifies the genocide of (possibly) millions of people. Literally nothing.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 13, 2023 8:50:27 GMT -6
And by the way, Hamas is coming for us Americans. Is we don’t stop them before you know it we will have another 9/11 and I bet planning is already in process.
I saw a video today that Syrian men are coming to the US without women and children - why are they coming for refuge here without women and children? To do something…
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Post by jaygee on Oct 13, 2023 8:52:22 GMT -6
I don’t understand this perception that people are not aware of what Hamas has done or that there is any support of it here.
We are horrified and completely condemn it.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 13, 2023 8:52:31 GMT -6
Cutting off water, electricity, and fuel is a violation of humanitarian law against collective punishment. That’s facts not feelings. Why can’t another country provide aid? Israel has been doing it for years for people who hate them. Let someone who sides with Hamas protect them. Hamas knew what would happen and they did it anyway- stop blaming Israel. There are sympathizers who could step in and they haven’t and don’t.
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Post by babybean on Oct 13, 2023 8:52:42 GMT -6
Jesus Christ.
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Post by addymac on Oct 13, 2023 8:53:26 GMT -6
And by the way, Hamas is coming for us Americans. Is we don’t stop them before you know it we will have another 9/11 and I bet planning is already in process. I saw a video today that Syrian men are coming to the US without women and children - why are they coming for refuge here without women and children? To do something… This is very inflammatory and IMO a racist and “fake news” statement. Regardless of location There are many reasons men come to the US for refuge before the women/children.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 13, 2023 8:53:50 GMT -6
I don’t understand this perception that people are not aware of what Hamas has done or that there is any support of it here. We are horrified and completely condemn it. With all due respect, you are blaming the wrong party for what is happening.
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Post by kbw on Oct 13, 2023 8:54:27 GMT -6
Cutting off water, electricity, and fuel is a violation of humanitarian law against collective punishment. That’s facts not feelings. This was what I was attempting to say.
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Post by addymac on Oct 13, 2023 8:55:16 GMT -6
Cutting off water, electricity, and fuel is a violation of humanitarian law against collective punishment. That’s facts not feelings. Why can’t another country provide aid? Israel has been doing it for years for people who hate them. Let someone who sides with Hamas protect them. Hamas knew what would happen and they did it anyway- stop blaming Israel. There are sympathizers who could step in and they haven’t and don’t. It’s not the innocent Palestinian civilians fault they’re prisoners of Hamas. Israel literally has control of the water / electricity / fuel. It’s not like Egypt can just say oh well we’ll just start funneling all that to you right now? We can set it up in jiffy? Like what in the world?
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