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Post by jaygee on Oct 12, 2023 12:58:03 GMT -6
In a moment of dark humor I had a hearty wtf chuckle at the idea that Jared fucking Kushner was billed as some boy wonder that was going to single handedly deliver Middle East peace. You cannot make this shit up.
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Post by summerbabe on Oct 12, 2023 13:07:48 GMT -6
I thought that this was well written - www.nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/have-we-learned-nothing/ if anyone needs another think piece. I'm mostly just reading and 'liking'. It's really hard and awful and I feel for everybody on this board who has closely affected family and friends. I hope that everybody takes breaks from the news as they need it, there is so much troubling shit out there right now.
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Post by robot on Oct 12, 2023 13:16:55 GMT -6
It shouldn't be ancient history to anyone since survivors and perpetrators are still alive. But I know it is. What sickens me too is rightwing congressman who will say bomb the hell out of Palestine out of one side of their mouth while spewing Holocaust denying antisemitic rhetoric out of the other. edit to add: I'm not usually a huge Friedman fan but that is a very good Op-Ed. I do suggest everyone read it if you can. It shouldn’t be but it’s hard to believe a lot of the world hasn’t basically said, get over it when you see things like this. www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151270957/survey-shows-a-lack-of-holocaust-awareness-in-the-country-that-was-home-to-anne-
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Post by lucylou on Oct 12, 2023 13:17:05 GMT -6
I saw this earlier today and wanted to bring it here but I don’t really go here. This is terrifying. But I can’t get a feel for if this is a realistic possibility or just him talking big? Last I checked, the major news networks hadn’t picked it up. I don’t know what to think. I'm quoting you, but I'm really saying this to everyone on HIH: you don't have to be a regular participant in the weekly minutae of the PCE threads, you absolutely are welcome here (if I may speak on behalf of the thread regs). The PCE board is for everyone and we warmly welcome anyone chiming in when they see fit. I appreciate that. I just feel like I only run here when big (usually terrible) things are happening and I don’t want to be that person. I do lurk occasionally though and have learned a lot from you all.
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Post by origami on Oct 12, 2023 13:18:51 GMT -6
I'm quoting you, but I'm really saying this to everyone on HIH: you don't have to be a regular participant in the weekly minutae of the PCE threads, you absolutely are welcome here (if I may speak on behalf of the thread regs). The PCE board is for everyone and we warmly welcome anyone chiming in when they see fit. I appreciate that. I just feel like I only run here when big (usually terrible) things are happening and I don’t want to be that person. I do lurk occasionally though and have learned a lot from you all. This board is kinda the spot though for big terrible things so truly don't feel bad. Those of us who are here all the time are big mega nerds (said with the utmost love and reverence for this board).
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Post by origami on Oct 12, 2023 13:19:48 GMT -6
It shouldn't be ancient history to anyone since survivors and perpetrators are still alive. But I know it is. What sickens me too is rightwing congressman who will say bomb the hell out of Palestine out of one side of their mouth while spewing Holocaust denying antisemitic rhetoric out of the other. edit to add: I'm not usually a huge Friedman fan but that is a very good Op-Ed. I do suggest everyone read it if you can. It shouldn’t be but it’s hard to believe a lot of the world hasn’t basically said, get over it when you see things like this. www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151270957/survey-shows-a-lack-of-holocaust-awareness-in-the-country-that-was-home-to-anne- Ugh, I remember reading that story when it came out and it's honestly terrifying.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2023 13:23:12 GMT -6
They have told them if they release the hostages they will turn the water and electricity back on. They are choosing not to. Hamas is refusing to release hostages. But Palestinians are the ones who suffer with no water or electricity. Mass deaths will occur for innocent civilians that have no control over Hamas actions. I'm also concerned about an information blackout due to the blockades. The western reporting is already pretty one-sided, soon it nay become impossibly to hear anything from people on the ground in Gaza.
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Post by robot on Oct 12, 2023 13:23:48 GMT -6
They have told them if they release the hostages they will turn the water and electricity back on. They are choosing not to. Hamas is pure evil and don’t care any more about Palestinians than they do Israelis. I wish everyone could see that. I just… more suffering children is still heartbreaking. And I acknowledge that I’m writing that with the privilege of a person whose immediate family is not in a war zone.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2023 13:27:12 GMT -6
Ugh, I remember reading that story when it came out and it's honestly terrifying. And states like Florida and Texas driving full speed toward both-sidesing or straight up denying the history of human malfeasance is going to make things like this much worse. I know that article is about the Netherlands but it's everywhere, really.
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Post by Cher on Oct 12, 2023 13:31:15 GMT -6
The call for the uprising is the top story here. A number of schools are closing. We just got an email from our district saying they made a decision to stay open but laying out a security plan. I know they will probably be fine, but I’m also questioning sending them.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 12, 2023 13:33:54 GMT -6
The call for the uprising is the top story here. A number of schools are closing. We just got an email from our district saying they made a decision to stay open but laying out a security plan. I know they will probably be fine, but I’m also questioning sending them. I’m so sorry. That’s completely nerve wracking.
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Post by origami on Oct 12, 2023 13:33:57 GMT -6
The call for the uprising is the top story here. A number of schools are closing. We just got an email from our district saying they made a decision to stay open but laying out a security plan. I know they will probably be fine, but I’m also questioning sending them. I don't think there is any shame in erring on the side of caution. I understand a district staying open in case some kids don't have anywhere to go but I doubt anyone would fault you for keeping them home.
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Post by cnf on Oct 12, 2023 14:35:43 GMT -6
The call for the uprising is the top story here. A number of schools are closing. We just got an email from our district saying they made a decision to stay open but laying out a security plan. I know they will probably be fine, but I’m also questioning sending them. We got a fairly cryptic email from our superintendent today too. We're also staying open tomorrow but are basically on high alert.
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Post by Cher on Oct 12, 2023 15:08:00 GMT -6
The call for the uprising is the top story here. A number of schools are closing. We just got an email from our district saying they made a decision to stay open but laying out a security plan. I know they will probably be fine, but I’m also questioning sending them. We got a fairly cryptic email from our superintendent today too. We're also staying open tomorrow but are basically on high alert. I’m sorry. Hopefully it’s a lot of nothing. Moms on our local group are selling off Taylor Swift and other sorts of tickets for tomorrow. I’m so sorry for everyone who is scared.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2023 15:09:07 GMT -6
WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK. Spoiler for content heinous shit from Trump
Later on Wednesday, Trump, the clear polling leader in the Republican presidential race, complimented the intelligence of Hezbollah, which has been designated a terrorist organization by the United States. The Iran-aligned group, based in Lebanon, exchanged fire with Israeli forces on the country’s northern border Wednesday. “You know, Hezbollah is very smart,” Trump said. “They’re all very smart.”
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Post by cnf on Oct 12, 2023 15:11:16 GMT -6
We got a fairly cryptic email from our superintendent today too. We're also staying open tomorrow but are basically on high alert. I’m sorry. Hopefully it’s a lot of nothing. Moms on our local group are selling off Taylor Swift and other sorts of tickets for tomorrow. I’m so sorry for everyone who is scared. I'm sorry for everything you're experiencing as well. It sounds like it's worse downstate than it is up here. No one would bat an eye if you kept your kids home tomorrow. I won't be surprised if we're missing kids, honestly, and I would never even think twice about it. Everyone needs to do what is right for them. Especially those directly impacted. I'm sorry.
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Post by elle on Oct 12, 2023 15:20:10 GMT -6
WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK. Spoiler for content heinous shit from Trump
Later on Wednesday, Trump, the clear polling leader in the Republican presidential race, complimented the intelligence of Hezbollah, which has been designated a terrorist organization by the United States. The Iran-aligned group, based in Lebanon, exchanged fire with Israeli forces on the country’s northern border Wednesday. “You know, Hezbollah is very smart,” Trump said. “They’re all very smart.”
I heard about that, he's just so vile.
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Post by byjove on Oct 12, 2023 15:45:10 GMT -6
The call for the uprising is the top story here. A number of schools are closing. We just got an email from our district saying they made a decision to stay open but laying out a security plan. I know they will probably be fine, but I’m also questioning sending them. We got a fairly cryptic email from our superintendent today too. We're also staying open tomorrow but are basically on high alert. My work also sent a high alert posture for tomorrow too.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 12, 2023 16:20:33 GMT -6
I hope it stays peaceful…
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Post by athn64 on Oct 12, 2023 16:33:44 GMT -6
I hope it stays peaceful… One of those is the University H works at
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Post by ladybrienne on Oct 12, 2023 16:55:28 GMT -6
They have told them if they release the hostages they will turn the water and electricity back on. They are choosing not to. Hamas is pure evil and don’t care any more about Palestinians than they do Israelis. I wish everyone could see that. I just… more suffering children is still heartbreaking. And I acknowledge that I’m writing that with the privilege of a person whose immediate family is not in a war zone. It feels to me that many have trouble separating Hamas from Palestinians and Israelis from a very far right wing government. A lot of uncomfortable truths can exist at once.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 12, 2023 16:56:07 GMT -6
My daughter is at one of those universities and we are going tomorrow…
Pro Palestine I understand
Pro Hamas I don’t get
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Post by robot on Oct 12, 2023 17:00:21 GMT -6
My daughter is at one of those universities and we are going tomorrow… Pro Palestine I understand Pro Hamas I don’t get This is the same as a pro ISIS rally. I’m sickened.
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Post by ellewoods on Oct 12, 2023 17:05:42 GMT -6
And I heard something in Netanyahu’s speech today that deserves a trigger warning and I don’t know how to do that but it just gets worse on what Hamas has done to hostages.
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Post by coffeecake on Oct 12, 2023 17:09:46 GMT -6
Ugh. My alma mater is on that list. I hope there is no violence on any of these campuses.
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Post by summerbabe on Oct 12, 2023 17:49:16 GMT -6
I work at a university listed there, and the protest with two student groups seemed peaceful today, though they did close campus to ID holders. I'm sure there is messed up shit going on everywhere, but I would not have characterized it as pro-Hamas on the ground (usual caveat, I didn't see everyone etc, I hope there weren't bad actors, etc). Tensions are high though, and however people are feeling is valid.
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Post by robot on Oct 12, 2023 18:08:26 GMT -6
I’m sure some truly pro Palestine rallies are being mislabeled. The news is so confusing and so variable depending on the source. But anything using Hamas slogans, images, etc is just not ok.
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Post by Cher on Oct 12, 2023 18:49:30 GMT -6
This is one of those heartbreaking but beautiful things. I’ve seen that a number of babies in Israel are in need of milk. I’m still nursing and have a stash so I reached out to a couple of people and the Israel Milk Bank is at full capacity. So many women in Israel (they won’t accept any foreign milk because you need a health screening) in the midst of all this, showed up and donated milk.
That being said, they are getting such an international response of women wanting to help, they’re trying to set up a registry of some sort to buy pumps, bags, etc. for donors.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2023 19:12:29 GMT -6
I just left an event at an historic synagogue and cultural center in downtown DC and security is always tight there, but it wasn't that different today. An extra MPD officer, but that was it. Just an anecdote. I'm glad they are still holding events as scheduled, it's a truly wonderful venue.
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Post by kbw on Oct 12, 2023 20:54:46 GMT -6
My alma mater is on that list and has a very large Jewish population as well. I’m hoping it stays peaceful and that it’s truly not a pro Hamas gathering.
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