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Post by SweetPotato on Nov 11, 2023 14:29:39 GMT -6
Every time I think it canβt get worse π’
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Post by babybean on Nov 11, 2023 14:36:56 GMT -6
http://instagram.com/p/CzhF-PcPPEr I sent this to a friend who works at Sick Kids. Iβm not entirely sure if overseas includes North America as of yet, but still think itβs valuable to share.
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Post by babybean on Nov 11, 2023 14:42:00 GMT -6
Iβm stuck on care providers having to choose whether to leave their patients. Both options are heartbreaking, and you canβt blame them for either one.
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Post by babybean on Nov 11, 2023 14:47:35 GMT -6
Even if world leaders stop being sacks of shit and call for a ceasefire, Israel is just going to tell them to fuck themselves and continue, right? Is this really only going to end with total annihilation?
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Post by willow on Nov 11, 2023 15:19:51 GMT -6
Even if world leaders stop being sacks of shit and call for a ceasefire, Israel is just going to tell them to fuck themselves and continue, right? Is this really only going to end with total annihilation? Iβm not nearly experienced enough in this area to say anything with certainty but I feel like MAYBE if the US and maybe UK too, did things to hamstring Israelβs efforts or gave them ultimatums, it might do something. But also I donβt think thatβs ever going to happen because we are too deep in the pro Israel camp.
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Post by enchanted on Nov 11, 2023 16:09:01 GMT -6
babybean Like willow, I am by no means an expert, but I think maybe if pressure came from the U.S. and U.K. governments, Israel would probably back down. I don't think it could come from just one of the two and the chance of getting both to apply pressure is slim to none, though.
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Post by mb3 on Nov 11, 2023 18:18:27 GMT -6
babybean Like willow, I am by no means an expert, but I think maybe if pressure came from the U.S. and U.K. governments, Israel would probably back down. I don't think it could come from just one of the two and the chances of getting both to apply pressure is slim to none, though. And I suspect the most they might do are statements, no actual hampering. Words not backed up by actions mean nothing.
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Post by Pam Poovey on Nov 14, 2023 17:18:18 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Nov 15, 2023 14:24:00 GMT -6
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Post by McBenny on Nov 15, 2023 16:58:56 GMT -6
I do not even believe there would be public statements. If there are, I believe this would mean one on one conversations have gone nowhere and the shit is about to get real for each of the countries.
Again, usually in foreign affairs, one does not make public statements on your long ally. That's not how it works usually. If it ever gets there, you will know changes are coming.
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Post by McBenny on Nov 15, 2023 17:02:49 GMT -6
Death toll now tops 11,000. I cannot wrap my head around bombing people sheltering at a hospital. I thought Russia had did the same thing to the Ukraine? Just saying your head had from last year to wrap itself around atrocities like that. They purposely targeted health care, hospital, children's hospital and even a maternity hospital.
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Post by π π Fineapple π π on Nov 25, 2023 10:40:33 GMT -6
Itβs crazy but needs to be said- EVERYONE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOSTAGES HAMAS HAS WHILE NO ONE MENTIONED THAT ISRAEL HAS BEEN Arresting PEOPLE AND HOLDING THEM HOSTAGE FOR YEARS IN SIX KONTH SENTENCES. THEM USE THE BODY FOR ORGAN DONORS.
AND THIS ISNT KNEW.
AND THE WHO HAS BEEN MADE COMPLICIT IN GIVING THE LOCATION OF THE DOCTORS ?
This is an occupation. This is genocide. Iβll never ever forget everyone who wanted to jump on others
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Post by π π Fineapple π π on Nov 25, 2023 10:43:49 GMT -6
So Israel can show a map going from the river to the sea but saying from the river to the sea is anti-Semitic?
Fuck that. Palestine will be free from the river to the sea. Fuck Occupation. Fuck Colonizers. Fuck Genocide apologist. Fuck the never again for Jews but ok for everyone else.
The statement of fact that Israel isnβt about religious freedom but White colonialism needs to be stated. Itβs fact. The people that are saying that these people are native to the land are missing the fact that these are NOT the people native to Palestine. These are not people returning to their homeland. This is occupation and Zionist rhetoric.
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Post by babybean on Nov 26, 2023 9:06:36 GMT -6
Itβs crazy but needs to be said- EVERYONE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOSTAGES HAMAS HAS WHILE NO ONE MENTIONED THAT ISRAEL HAS BEEN Arresting PEOPLE AND HOLDING THEM HOSTAGE FOR YEARS IN SIX KONTH SENTENCES. THEM USE THE BODY FOR ORGAN DONORS. AND THIS ISNT KNEW. AND THE WHO HAS BEEN MADE COMPLICIT IN GIVING THE LOCATION OF THE DOCTORS ? This is an occupation. This is genocide. Iβll never ever forget everyone who wanted to jump on others I brought it up on October 9th when things were dark in the thread. I donβt count LTβs but will remember everyone who was LTing my posts. Someone made a throw away SN to post graphics because it was that big of a deal to speak up. Iβm glad the tide has shifted because I couldnβt continue to post here feeling like that was the collective consensus on the matter.
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Post by Sweetjane on Nov 26, 2023 10:51:05 GMT -6
Same same babybean. π΅πΈ We've been here since the beginning, I want those early deniers to come back and answer. Do you believe us NOW?? Are you still digging in your heels? There is no excuse to be complicit anymore, everyone has had time to do their research. Fuck Biden, AIPAC, Netanyahoo and you too Blinken. It's NOT complicated so don't @ me with that BS either Amanda.
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Post by McBenny on Nov 27, 2023 13:57:07 GMT -6
Same same babybean . π΅πΈ We've been here since the beginning, I want those early deniers to come back and answer. Do you believe us NOW?? Are you still digging in your heels? There is no excuse to be complicit anymore, everyone has had time to do their research. Fuck Biden, AIPAC, Netanyahoo and you too Blinken. It's NOT complicated so don't @ me with that BS either Amanda. I am not saying I am correct but do not look for anything to be said or address on this matter. Remember some people were defending the whole plantation wedding thing for years. This board and many threads are often full of micro aggressions, and should someone dare call it out it turns into a whole other thing usually something classist etc. like don't count my pockets and that dumb shit. I am just calling it like I see it. Again, I could be wrong, but this is my perception on the matter and how it has felt to me. They will act like they can't SEE racism but let it be something like you saying she when the person just announced being non binary and you are automatically called transphobic or some shit. Again, the pandemic taught me that people will rationalize and make it make sense for how they move and it usually leans towards what is convenient and beneficial to them and NOT the greater good.
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Post by miawallace on Nov 27, 2023 15:19:59 GMT -6
As a general, speaking about most social issues in white spaces as a non-white person is a pain in the ass. I lean towards heavily censoring a lot of my real thoughts in spaces like this bc itβs just not the place for it. I donβt mean to say that condescendingly, itβs just how it is. People would lose their minds if the real meat was being said. I donβt mean that even with conservative people, I mean that with yt liberals. That group is the most frustrating to talk to. In my opinion.
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Post by McBenny on Nov 27, 2023 23:25:57 GMT -6
As a general, speaking about most social issues in white spaces as a non-white person is a pain in the ass. I lean towards heavily censoring a lot of my real thoughts in spaces like this bc itβs just not the place for it. I donβt mean to say that condescendingly, itβs just how it is. People would lose their minds if the real meat was being said. I donβt mean that even with conservative people, I mean that with yt liberals. That group is the most frustrating to talk to. In my opinion. yt people are just so exhausting. They say they want to listen, nope. Learn, nope. Do better, nope. I protect my peace now. I mean I get it. Why would uou want to change things that serve you as they are now. π€·π»ββοΈ
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