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Post by brux on Sept 6, 2023 13:53:34 GMT -6
Jill Duggar reveals that she wasn't paid at all to film the shows, which she says could take up to 20 hours a week, if not more.
The reason? Her father Jim Bob Duggar handled all the financials and negotiations with the network, and she and her siblings did as they were told.
Jill says that for a long time, compensation didn't even cross her mind.
"I think I was so conditioned to this belief that we were benefitting from it, from going on this trip or that trip or whatever," she tells PEOPLE in this week's issue. "It was like, well we can buy frozen pizzas instead of beans and rice now because [TLC] is covering these things. It was literally so ingrained in me to be grateful."
After asking Jib Bob about possible payment, she writes that he eventually offered his grown children a check for $80K each. Jill says that she and Derick, 34, rejected the offer after finally getting a look at the original contracts that her father signed in 2014. In her book, she estimates the family earned about $8 million for nearly ten years of starring on their reality show. After she and Derick got an attorney, they ended up accepting a check from Jim Bob for $175,000.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 6, 2023 17:41:31 GMT -6
Oh shit I forgot that book is coming out next week. Adding that to the list.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Sept 7, 2023 9:56:48 GMT -6
Now you know we will be expecting a recap, willow. Pretty please? I mean, I may get a copy but trust you to share highlights to know if it's worth my while.
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Post by leahcar on Sept 7, 2023 10:17:21 GMT -6
I'm on the wait list at my library for the Jill book. I need that tea.
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Post by chocolatecake on Sept 7, 2023 13:09:25 GMT -6
The tidbits that brux posted from Jill’s book sound promising that we might get a better look into what was really happening behind the scenes vs. the book Jinger had published.
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Post by sassafras83 on Sept 7, 2023 18:00:11 GMT -6
The tidbits that brux posted from Jill’s book sound promising that we might get a better look into what was really happening behind the scenes vs. the book Jinger had published. For sure. Jinger went out of her way to not criticize her parents - Jill doesn’t have the same qualms. I think Jill is long past trying to have a relationship with Jim Bob, but she may not go after her mom as hard.
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brux
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Post by brux on Sept 9, 2023 21:12:29 GMT -6
People Mag has an excerpt from Jill’s book and wooooo boy!
She said to Jim Bob: “You treat me worse than you treat my pedophile brother.”
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Sept 10, 2023 4:55:54 GMT -6
People Mag has an excerpt from Jill’s book and wooooo boy! She said to Jim Bob: “You treat me worse than you treat my pedophile brother.” I'm so glad she said that. So disgusting they protected Josh more than his victims, their own daughters. I doubt he ever came at Josh aggressively or demanded apologies from Josh. In his and Michelle's sick minds Josh was just being a boy and exploring when his hormones kicked in. Boys being boys and all. The way he came at her curious if there was physical abuse in that house. I'm guessing they at least spank.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 10, 2023 5:17:39 GMT -6
People Mag has an excerpt from Jill’s book and wooooo boy! She said to Jim Bob: “You treat me worse than you treat my pedophile brother.” I'm so glad she said that. So disgusting they protected Josh more than his victims, their own daughters. I doubt he ever came at Josh aggressively or demanded apologies from Josh. In his and Michelle's sick minds Josh was just being a boy and exploring when his hormones kicked in. Boys being boys and all. The way he came at her curious if there was physical abuse in that house. I'm guessing they at least spank. I mean they were all “blanket trained” as infants, so yes there was physical abuse.
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Sept 10, 2023 5:30:15 GMT -6
I'm so glad she said that. So disgusting they protected Josh more than his victims, their own daughters. I doubt he ever came at Josh aggressively or demanded apologies from Josh. In his and Michelle's sick minds Josh was just being a boy and exploring when his hormones kicked in. Boys being boys and all. The way he came at her curious if there was physical abuse in that house. I'm guessing they at least spank. I mean they were all “blanket trained” as infants, so yes there was physical abuse. Ugh, hitting babies with spoons? Jim Bob and Michelle should be in prison too.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Sept 10, 2023 6:54:23 GMT -6
People Mag has an excerpt from Jill’s book and wooooo boy! She said to Jim Bob: “You treat me worse than you treat my pedophile brother.” I hate that this is her reality, but I'm so glad she has the platform to scream it to the world. Her dad is pure trash.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Sept 10, 2023 8:13:38 GMT -6
Amy Duggar King said on The Today show that she learned about Josh's assaults on the news like everyone else in 2015 and that she confronted him. She claims he told her he knew better than to try to touch her inappropriately and indicated he touched the ones he did based on believing they wouldn't talk/tell. Well he got Jill all wrong. Asshole. And IIRC, Jill slapped him and did tell their parents. Who did nothing, of course.
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Post by sassafras83 on Sept 10, 2023 9:39:21 GMT -6
I hope this book does well for Jill. She deserves (at the very least) to earn those $$$$.
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Post by chocolatecake on Sept 10, 2023 12:46:06 GMT -6
Just saw on People that Jessa announced baby #5. Nice try deflecting from Jill's book. Not gonna work. Jill's tell-all is what we've all been waiting for.
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Post by sassafras83 on Sept 10, 2023 12:55:23 GMT -6
Just saw on People that Jessa announced baby #5. Nice try deflecting from Jill's book. Not gonna work. Jill's tell-all is what we've all been waiting for. There is a baby born in that family ever minute at this point. It’s not exactly a surprise when there is another one.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Sept 10, 2023 15:54:53 GMT -6
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Post by chocolatecake on Sept 11, 2023 7:56:41 GMT -6
The audio excerpt on there of Jill reading the encounter between her and her dad when she states "you treat me worse than my pedophile brother" is intense and chilling. You could sense her fear and bravery in facing her abusive dad. I admit it was hard to listen to as someone who grew up in a religious and strict household and it may be triggering for some.
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Post by Bluebird on Sept 12, 2023 7:02:09 GMT -6
I’m on the wait list from my library too, but I saw another excerpt that Josh was in the room during the Megyn Kelly interview. 🤮
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Post by goldenbird on Sept 12, 2023 11:02:47 GMT -6
I'm probably going to buy it on my Kindle. I'm not into clothing or accessories so buying books is my vice.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 12:40:18 GMT -6
I just started it. I have a busy week so can't update constantly but I'll put in summaries as I go.
The first chapter already mad me sad because she talks about how they would get to listen to music and it was the best thing ever (only some classical, and other were hymns), but they were forbidden to dance to it. If one her younger siblings were caught trying to dance, they would get reminded that they can't dance. Only jumping for joy.
I know the 'no dancing' thing is not unique to this cult but damn it depresses me as someone who finds particular solace in moving my body to music.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 12:41:44 GMT -6
Jill also acknowledges pretty immediately that she greatly desired to be the kid that behaved the best and was always the most modest, most helpful, and best "buddy" to her younger siblings. She said she thrived off the positive attention she got from her mom and dad for being so obedient.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 12:54:36 GMT -6
Jill says at one point her older siblings shouted out to warn about a "bad girl" that was dressed immodestly out in public and Michelle explained that they shouldn't judge her and not to put her down by calling her bad. She said it was ok to warn siblings that someone was dressed immodestly but to leave the person's character out of it. I found that interesting. I can see already that Michelle is getting the loving mother edit, which, she very well may have been.
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Post by bobyn on Sept 12, 2023 13:42:23 GMT -6
Loving mothers don't blanket train and parentify their children.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 13:45:00 GMT -6
Loving mothers don't blanket train and parentify their children. Oh I don't disagree. I am just speaking from what appears to be Jill's perspective and memories of her mother while she was young. I am only like 30 pages in so that could also change!
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Post by sassafras83 on Sept 12, 2023 15:15:25 GMT -6
Loving mothers don't blanket train and parentify their children. Oh I don't disagree. I am just speaking from what appears to be Jill's perspective and memories of her mother while she was young. I am only like 30 pages in so that could also change! I am just starting it as well, and I agree. I think she still has a relationship with her mom, and seems to be very kind to her (so far) in the book. I think with all the shit her dad put her through, it is easier to place most of the blame on him. We will see where the book goes!
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 17:05:52 GMT -6
Initially it was JB that pushed Derick on Jill by having her listen in on phone conversations he was having with him, and then eventually made her have a conversation with him while he was on speakerphone and Jb was standing right there. At that point, she was mostly embarrassed and had no interest in pursuing Derick.
The fact that JB was the persistent one in making this match and then Derick ends up helping her break free of the cult is rather delicious (yes I’m aware Derick is a flawed human, I’m not absolving him of that).
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 17:10:44 GMT -6
When Jill went to Nepal to visit and meet Derick for the first time, she wanted to go for two weeks. The crew said they could only do 5 days. She fought back and said no, this is a time where I need to decide if I want to commit to a marriage with this person so I need the full two weeks. They filmed a fake goodbye scene and everything since she was staying longer. Good for her for sticking up for herself there.
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willow
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 17:22:01 GMT -6
I had no idea that Dericks mom was on oxygen with stage 4 cancer at their wedding. That they were dealing with that stress at the same time.
She refused to let the cameras come with them on their honeymoon so they didn’t get any money to help, so they spent 5 days alone in NC. People were confused when they came back so “early”, and Jill talks about how they paid for their HM themselves and Derick only had a few days off work but she didn’t tell anyone that because she didn’t see the point in trying to explain.
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Post by willow on Sept 12, 2023 17:26:56 GMT -6
Jill got pregnant within a month of them getting married and they had to film at least 20 hours a week mostly on nights and weekends because of Dericks work schedule. They’d be scolded for taking time to eat or change because the crew didn’t want to run late, and they’d often be filming til midnight. She talks about how exhausting it was for both of them, especially for her during first trimester. Pretty quickly, Derick already told Jill he thought it was getting hard and that they should ask if they could make some changes to their filming obligations.
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Post by donnamartingraduates on Sept 12, 2023 17:28:46 GMT -6
And here we go, JB paid Josh (for a period of time) and not the girls.
Can anyone explain how JB got all the money? Is it because it is reality TV vs the kids being actors and so no protections for them. Fuck TLC too for not setting up something for the kids. They saw what happened in that home, they could have helped those kids.
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