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Post by willow on Oct 12, 2021 7:51:21 GMT -6
Wtfshouldmynamebe Ugh that sucks, I'm so sorry. I think you're doing a responsible thing by being cautious but I am sure that is hard to miss his birthday.
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Post by willow on Oct 12, 2021 7:53:17 GMT -6
MN has the highest growing case count in the country right now, so everything is fine.
The majority of cases are in outer MN and not the metro though, so at least that makes me feel better on a purely selfish level. Especially since I'm getting on a plane in a week. I'm fortunate that my boss is letting me WFH on Monday and Tues next week to try and limit my exposure before my plane ride on Wednesday. And my H and I are going to get PCR tests on Monday and quarantine in the house until we leave. Of course my kid still has school and we will have our nanny in our house but hopefully those are our only exposure risks before we leave.
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Post by Wtfshouldmynamebe on Oct 12, 2021 8:01:12 GMT -6
Wtfshouldmynamebe Ugh that sucks, I'm so sorry. I think you're doing a responsible thing by being cautious but I am sure that is hard to miss his birthday. The worst part is I may actually miss both my boys' birthdays (they are 4 days apart). It depends on how long I quarantine. I figure I will get a test and test on like day 4 of being home.
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Post by Minerva on Oct 12, 2021 8:09:35 GMT -6
I'm vaccinating my children ASAP as much for my mental health as for their physical health. I have no qualms about admitting that. Yes. And with a kid that is high risk, I have to hope that most of the other families around me will vaccinate. DD getting vaccinated can only do so much. The power of vaccines lies in herd immunity, especially in a school environment.
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Post by byjove on Oct 12, 2021 8:18:51 GMT -6
I'm vaccinating my children ASAP as much for my mental health as for their physical health. I have no qualms about admitting that. Yes. And with a kid that is high risk, I have to hope that most of the other families around me will vaccinate. DD getting vaccinated can only do so much. The power of vaccines lies in herd immunity, especially in a school environment. And also, maybe this is selfish, but I'm looking forward to not having to worry about quarantining for exposure. My children (and my sanity) would not handle 14 days of quarantine and we have been (knock on wood 1000 times) fortunately able to avoid it. Also would feel better about the lower risk (if asymptomatic) of transmission around family. Really, it would just make me feel better about a lot of things.
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Post by greykitty on Oct 12, 2021 8:28:38 GMT -6
I'm vaccinating my children ASAP as much for my mental health as for their physical health. I have no qualms about admitting that. And because (maybe unfounded?): It still lowers the risk of catching covid, and therefore of spreading covid Is that correct or has that not been shown? Or do I have to wait until the 26th to know that? The article I linked went on to say: "The arguments in favor are that any troubling side effects seem very rare; that there is uncertainty about the long-term effects of Covid; and that vaccinating children can help protect everybody else, by reducing transmission. If I had young children, I would vaccinate them without hesitation. I have heard the same from multiple scientists, including those who understand why many parents are reluctant. (Hereās a Times Q. and A. on the subject.) It feels like a close call that leans toward vaccination for an individual child ā and an easy decision for the sake of a childās grandparents and everybody elseās grandparents. āUnvaccinated people at any age are much more likely to cause transmission relative to vaccinated people,ā Dr. Aaron Richterman of the University of Pennsylvania told me." What I took from the article is a little more, ah, understanding, maybe, for parents of littles who may not be rushing to the vax sites first day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2021 8:37:22 GMT -6
Yes. And with a kid that is high risk, I have to hope that most of the other families around me will vaccinate. DD getting vaccinated can only do so much. The power of vaccines lies in herd immunity, especially in a school environment. And also, maybe this is selfish, but I'm looking forward to not having to worry about quarantining for exposure. My children (and my sanity) would not handle 14 days of quarantine and we have been (knock on wood 1000 times) fortunately able to avoid it. Also would feel better about the lower risk (if asymptomatic) of transmission around family. Really, it would just make me feel better about a lot of things. H goes back and forth on DS1 getting vaccinated. Heās been quarantined multiple times. To get my feelings across on it I told him he was responsible for working a full time job and taking care of remote school snd anything else if DS1 got quarantined again and vaccines were available to him.
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Post by carmensandiego on Oct 12, 2021 9:23:51 GMT -6
Wtfshouldmynamebe - I'm so sorry. For what it's worth, AZ is the wild west but we've been able to stay safe. It's getting to be nice here, so hopefully you can eat meals on a few patios.
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Post by crimsonandclover on Oct 12, 2021 9:36:55 GMT -6
I'm vaccinating my children ASAP as much for my mental health as for their physical health. I have no qualms about admitting that. This, but also because there is no way of knowing what this virus will do down the line. Chicken pox seems relatively risk free, but then you get the fun of possibly getting shingles later in life. Epstein-Barr (mono) stays in your system forever, and I seem to remember it can cause issues. Herpes stick around and run amok now and again. Let's not even talk about HIV long-term. This virus has been around for 2 years. We have no clue what the long-term effects will be. Probably nothing, but if there's a vaccination, I'm going to get it for my kids until there's more evidence about whether and what SARS-CoV-2 does in the long term.
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Post by piratecat on Oct 12, 2021 9:49:14 GMT -6
I'm vaccinating my children ASAP as much for my mental health as for their physical health. I have no qualms about admitting that. This, but also because there is no way of knowing what this virus will do down the line. Chicken pox seems relatively risk free, but then you get the fun of possibly getting shingles later in life. Epstein-Barr (mono) stays in your system forever, and I seem to remember it can cause issues. Herpes stick around and run amok now and again. Let's not even talk about HIV long-term. This virus has been around for 2 years. We have no clue what the long-term effects will be. Probably nothing, but if there's a vaccination, I'm going to get it for my kids until there's more evidence about whether and what SARS-CoV-2 does in the long term.
EBV is known to be associated with various lymphomas.
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Post by jkjacq on Oct 12, 2021 9:59:28 GMT -6
We got our flu shots friday night and C was telling the pharmacist, I CANT WAIT FOR MY COVID SHOT!!!!!!! She looked at her and goes 'arent you only 10?' it was cute.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2021 10:01:49 GMT -6
I'm vaccinating my children ASAP as much for my mental health as for their physical health. I have no qualms about admitting that. And because (maybe unfounded?): It still lowers the risk of catching covid, and therefore of spreading covid Is that correct or has that not been shown? Or do I have to wait until the 26th to know that? There was a period of time when there was suspicion that vaccinated people could spread delta efficiently but further research debunked that. Your vaccine protects you from contracting covid AND from spreading it if you do develop a breakthrough infection
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2021 10:15:03 GMT -6
There is also a school of thought that autoimmune diseases are triggered by viruses so just, yeah, hell to the no on waiting for vaccines for my kids. I'm not coming for anyone waiting a bit but I will be shoving my kids at the first jab we can get the second it's available.
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Post by richard on Oct 12, 2021 11:33:44 GMT -6
I made flu shot appointments on the 29th for my kids - even thought they already have flu shots - because the clinic is both a Pfizer vaccine and flu shot clinic. So just on the off-chance Pfizer is available for kids that day, we'll have an appointment and can try to talk someone into giving us the vaccine instead.
So, that's my position on waiting on kids vaccines. Lol. Doing the moooost.
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Post by jaygee on Oct 12, 2021 11:34:35 GMT -6
So my work reported today that out of 14K employees, 35 are on leave for not being vaccinated or having a qualified accommodation. And 20 are in process of returning this month (meaning getting the vaccine). So 15 employees. That itās. Drop in the bucket.
Mandates work.
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Post by fatpony on Oct 12, 2021 11:40:30 GMT -6
One of my friends who lives in Michigan just got called to enroll her toddler in a Moderna trial. So jealous.
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Post by AmyG on Oct 12, 2021 11:58:49 GMT -6
Wtfshouldmynamebe - I'm so sorry. For what it's worth, AZ is the wild west but we've been able to stay safe. It's getting to be nice here, so hopefully you can eat meals on a few patios. Yes the temps are going down to outside doing things temps. As long as the wind slows down. And az has settled into a 35-40 deaths a day running 7 day average.
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Post by greykitty on Oct 12, 2021 12:11:43 GMT -6
AA and SW taking shots across Gov. Abbott's bow, LOL. I suspect most national/global entities with operations in Texas who also have federal contracts will follow suit. I'd guess Abbott is feeling pushed by his primary opponents to his right, and may not even really think he was going to get this actually pushed through, once he said it out loud. ... The decisions Tuesday set up an immediate challenge to Republican Governor Greg Abbott by two of the stateās largest corporations. Companies with operations in Texas like the two airlines have beeen caught between Abbottās decree and a White House measure that says federal contractors must require the shots. ... www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/american-southwest-abide-by-biden-vaccine-order-defy-texas/ar-AAPqvvm?ocid=msedgntp
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Post by AmyG on Oct 12, 2021 14:02:53 GMT -6
AA and SW taking shots across Gov. Abbott's bow, LOL. I suspect most national/global entities with operations in Texas who also have federal contracts will follow suit. I'd guess Abbott is feeling pushed by his primary opponents to his right, and may not even really think he was going to get this actually pushed through, once he said it out loud. ... The decisions Tuesday set up an immediate challenge to Republican Governor Greg Abbott by two of the stateās largest corporations. Companies with operations in Texas like the two airlines have beeen caught between Abbottās decree and a White House measure that says federal contractors must require the shots. ... www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/american-southwest-abide-by-biden-vaccine-order-defy-texas/ar-AAPqvvm?ocid=msedgntpI bet if SW and AA say well they just can no longer fly into or out of Texas anymore, that the Gov will change his mind. Of course they won't do that.
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Post by goldenbird on Oct 12, 2021 15:30:56 GMT -6
I'm bummed that it looks like DS won't be getting even his first shot before 2022. But so happy for the 5-11s in just a few weeks!!
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Post by Ls2012 on Oct 12, 2021 17:15:39 GMT -6
One of my friends who lives in Michigan just got called to enroll her toddler in a Moderna trial. So jealous. Might you be willing to disclose where in Michigan? I've been looking/ signing up my kids but there's nothing near me.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 12, 2021 17:43:41 GMT -6
One of my friends who lives in Michigan just got called to enroll her toddler in a Moderna trial. So jealous. Might you be willing to disclose where in Michigan? I've been looking/ signing up my kids but there's nothing near me. When I was looking for my sister everything I found was at Beamont
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Post by addymac on Oct 12, 2021 18:27:21 GMT -6
I'm bummed that it looks like DS won't be getting even his first shot before 2022. But so happy for the 5-11s in just a few weeks!! Same.
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Post by addymac on Oct 12, 2021 18:29:29 GMT -6
Damn Wtfshouldmynamebe Iām sorry. That is a very safe decision and Iām sorry you have to miss one maybe 2 bdays. Fuck antivaxers and Covid!!!!!!
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Post by cnf on Oct 12, 2021 18:40:39 GMT -6
I'm bummed that it looks like DS won't be getting even his first shot before 2022. But so happy for the 5-11s in just a few weeks!! The idea that after so much waiting and worry I will only be able to vaccinate one of my three children anytime soon is so bittersweet. I just want them all safe. And all three of mine span the three lower age brackets. So DD1 will hopefully get hers in the next few weeks, with DD2 in the next group, and DS probably not getting one until well into 2022. Sigh.
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Post by cnf on Oct 12, 2021 18:42:39 GMT -6
On a mandate related note though, H's work officially mandated the vaccine for all faculty and staff. He has two professional staffers who have refused up until this point. There is no test option available, so it'll be interesting to see if they actually hold firm and get let go, or just go get the vaccine.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2021 9:27:37 GMT -6
Dr Walensky is talking about some recent studies on the vaccines and she said that children in a household where 2 or 3 others are fully vaccinated are over 90% protected from household transmission. So for those of you still waiting to get your under 5's vaccinated, that should offer at least some peace of mind
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Post by fatpony on Oct 13, 2021 9:27:51 GMT -6
One of my friends who lives in Michigan just got called to enroll her toddler in a Moderna trial. So jealous. Might you be willing to disclose where in Michigan? I've been looking/ signing up my kids but there's nothing near me. They're going to Detroit for it. Not sure which facility.
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2021 9:48:05 GMT -6
Jeff Zeints said the White House covod response team met with governors and state health agencies this week to begin enrolling providers and pharmacists to receive and administer vaccines for 5-11 year olds. They are preparing for community based vaccination sites, vaccination sites at schools, and retail pharmacies to get jabs in arms. They have the doses and are ready to hit the ground running as soon as FDA gives the green light .
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Post by dc2london on Oct 13, 2021 9:49:33 GMT -6
Asked if we will have to live with this thing like we live with the flu, Dr Fauci says absolutely not, we have highly effective vaccines and should be able to get annual case rates well below that of influenza.
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