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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 14:08:39 GMT -6
So last week we had a PTC meeting (over zoom), and our principal mentioned that she’s not in a hurry to reopen in-person learning but the superintendent was pushing for it. Then this week we got a notice from the supe saying they’re hoping to reopen Nov 2. I guffawed most heartily and filled out the survey immediately, choosing the all virtual option and writing in the comments box “Reopening as cold and flu season is ramping up and just before the holidays seems like a recipe for disaster and it will be chaos within one or two weeks.” That was as polite as I could manage.
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Post by doublestuf on Sept 26, 2020 19:35:28 GMT -6
So last week we had a PTC meeting (over zoom), and our principal mentioned that she’s not in a hurry to reopen in-person learning but the superintendent was pushing for it. Then this week we got a notice from the supe saying they’re hoping to reopen Nov 2. I guffawed most heartily and filled out the survey immediately, choosing the all virtual option and writing in the comments box “Reopening as cold and flu season is ramping up and just before the holidays seems like a recipe for disaster and it will be chaos within one or two weeks.” That was as polite as I could manage. We do not have the option to switch until the end of the semester. H and I have decided that we will unenroll DD (in Kindergarten) until the 2nd semester if they go back to full classes mid-November as planned. I probably need to look into the "rules" of this, but I have access to the virtual academy's K class, so I would just work with her in the afternoons and weekends for a month. I recognize how privileged that is. H already emailed our board, and I'm still in the middle of writing mine because I'm doing things like quoting the CDC's guidelines, which alas seems...something at the moment. Even as an employee, I am not mincing words. I am remaining professional and plan to send it to my admin first, but being overly polite is the least of my concern. I'm glad you said what you said. I asked H the other night...do you think they haven't thought about flu season and the holidays at all or that someone brought it up and they just shrugged?
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Post by fancynewbeesly on Sept 26, 2020 19:42:47 GMT -6
So last week we had a PTC meeting (over zoom), and our principal mentioned that she’s not in a hurry to reopen in-person learning but the superintendent was pushing for it. Then this week we got a notice from the supe saying they’re hoping to reopen Nov 2. I guffawed most heartily and filled out the survey immediately, choosing the all virtual option and writing in the comments box “Reopening as cold and flu season is ramping up and just before the holidays seems like a recipe for disaster and it will be chaos within one or two weeks.” That was as polite as I could manage. We do not have the option to switch until the end of the semester. H and I have decided that we will unenroll DD (in Kindergarten) until the 2nd semester if they go back to full classes mid-November as planned. I probably need to look into the "rules" of this, but I have access to the virtual academy's K class, so I would just work with her in the afternoons and weekends for a month. I recognize how privileged that is. H already emailed our board, and I'm still in the middle of writing mine because I'm doing things like quoting the CDC's guidelines, which alas seems...something at the moment. Even as an employee, I am not mincing words. I am remaining professional and plan to send it to my admin first, but being overly polite is the least of my concern. I'm glad you said what you said. I asked H the other night...do you think they haven't thought about flu season and the holidays at all or that someone brought it up and they just shrugged? This is my issue. We are virtual. In a state where the numbers are good. Our county though is now the hot spot in the state. They are starting to transition to hybrid for K-1 and LLD classes October 5th. On November 9th (we have a week off prior--which of course everyone will be traveling) everyone will be transitioned to hybrid. I am a teacher. It logically makes so sense, with the holiday coming up. And being in cold and flu season. So many friends are thinking of hybrid but then they want to pull them a few weeks before Christmas so they can see grandparents. In our district if you choose virtual, you can't switch to hybrid until February.
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Post by doublestuf on Sept 26, 2020 19:51:36 GMT -6
In the midst in me being all in a tizzy about school, I open an email from SIL a few days ago inviting all of H's immediate family (18 people, 5 families) to BIL's (H's brother) 40th surprise birthday. Now, we did all go to the beach together because everyone was working from home and quarantining. Even then, I almost pulled our family out at the last minute because of anxiety.
SIL/BIL live in TN, and their kids have been back in school this whole time full time, and I think don't think masks are required. I know they wear masks when out, but they are very much back to life as normal in many areas from what I can tell. One of H's sisters immediately responded that they will be there, and her kids are going back this week with masks and 50% classes. Now, H's parents have been super careful this entire time. Like they still wear gloves and wipe down groceries (no offense if anyone does this) in addition to all other precautions and not going anywhere. They also responded yes! I was floored. FIL is diabetic and has high blood pressure. H called them that night, and they plan to wear masks the whole time, but you can't do that while eating and sleeping. They said they know it's a risk and will be as careful as possible.
I'm pissed at SIL for even throwing a party. I'm assuming it will just be the 10 of them now, but for God's sake people, this is not the year. I know I'm preaching to the choir. I will be so angry if anyone gets sick. It absolutely sucks not being able to see each other as much, and H's family is delightful, but it's such an unnecessary risk. Weirdly, MIL/FIL said they wouldn't be comfortable if it was all 18 of us. But our family and his other sister's family are the least exposed because our kids aren't back in the building and they WFH. All I can figure it that MIL felt she couldn't say no, even though SIL started her email with "there will be no hard feelings." Anecdote #4853 on why we're never getting out of this.
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Post by doublestuf on Sept 26, 2020 20:02:00 GMT -6
We do not have the option to switch until the end of the semester. H and I have decided that we will unenroll DD (in Kindergarten) until the 2nd semester if they go back to full classes mid-November as planned. I probably need to look into the "rules" of this, but I have access to the virtual academy's K class, so I would just work with her in the afternoons and weekends for a month. I recognize how privileged that is. H already emailed our board, and I'm still in the middle of writing mine because I'm doing things like quoting the CDC's guidelines, which alas seems...something at the moment. Even as an employee, I am not mincing words. I am remaining professional and plan to send it to my admin first, but being overly polite is the least of my concern. I'm glad you said what you said. I asked H the other night...do you think they haven't thought about flu season and the holidays at all or that someone brought it up and they just shrugged? This is my issue. We are virtual. In a state where the numbers are good. Our county though is now the hot spot in the state. They are starting to transition to hybrid for K-1 and LLD classes October 5th. On November 9th (we have a week off prior--which of course everyone will be traveling) everyone will be transitioned to hybrid. I am a teacher. It logically makes so sense, with the holiday coming up. And being in cold and flu season. So many friends are thinking of hybrid but then they want to pull them a few weeks before Christmas so they can see grandparents. In our district if you choose virtual, you can't switch to hybrid until February. 100% agree. Honestly, my bigger concern is the holidays vs. flu season. I do think we should see lower flu numbers with masks. But so many people are going to roll forward with the holidays as normal. No, I do not want myself, my husband, or my daughter in a classroom on November 30th or the 2 weeks afterwards. At least over winter break we have a week built in afterwards (assuming people can chill with New Years, which I probably shouldn't assume). Not to mention that sending them back during that time is stupid. There are so many breaks--election day, Veterans Day, Thanksgiving, Winter break--that make it more disruptive while trying to acclimate the kids to the new protocols and wearing masks. Every teacher in the world prefers consistency and routine for their sanity, which is currently nonexistent.
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Post by oreobitsy on Sept 26, 2020 20:10:56 GMT -6
My neighbors are having something at their house tonight. Real cool. It actually pisses me off about the level of precautions taken by the schools and then people are just doing whatever they want out of school. Why the fuck do they think it’s ok?!? The only cases in our school districts are middle and high school so far but it’s all going to explode soon I think.
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Post by doublestuf on Sept 26, 2020 20:26:52 GMT -6
My neighbors are having something at their house tonight. Real cool. It actually pisses me off about the level of precautions taken by the schools and then people are just doing whatever they want out of school. Why the fuck do they think it’s ok?!? The only cases in our school districts are middle and high school so far but it’s all going to explode soon I think. Same, same. We had a large Sweet 16 party on our street last Saturday and a neighborhood cornhole tournament 2 streets over. This is yet another reason why my husband or myself should not have to be buildings with kids. But get this--our district is thinking of making webinars for families to watch about being safe over the holidays. I was actively yelling at my computer the other night by the point in the board meeting. I have pointed out how utterly useless this will be in my angry email, and that since this is really all we can do, we have zero business being forced to be in the building with them.
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Post by beaf12 on Sept 26, 2020 23:12:29 GMT -6
Our district is evaluating whether to switch from distance to hybrid or just full in-person for at least the elementary kids. The problem with hybrid is the classes are too big and classrooms too small to go 50%. So they’d go either 25%, either 1 day/week or 2 days every other week. Wtf. Just stay distance learning. Bring back special ed teachers and kids to facilitate their distance learning in-person, but it’s not worth the risk for 25%.
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Post by oreobitsy on Sept 26, 2020 23:25:11 GMT -6
doublestuf What’s messed up about the holiday webinars is that the parents willing to sit through those are probably not the ones the school needs to worry about. I already am missing this summer where I parked our collective asses in a camper and didn’t interact with anyone but us. School has been wonderful for their mental health and learning, but five weeks with no cases is just enough time to get people feeling free.
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Post by byjove on Sept 27, 2020 7:18:20 GMT -6
I find it interesting how quickly schools are trying to move the k-2 set from distance learning back to school. Our district seems to be strongly considering it too, and likely in November. I share a lot of the concerns expressed above. Even though we are having a lot of distance learning issues, I don’t know how keen I feel to send her back :/ I guess we’ll see what options they come up with.
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Post by oreobitsy on Sept 27, 2020 9:34:51 GMT -6
I find it interesting how quickly schools are trying to move the k-2 set from distance learning back to school. Our district seems to be strongly considering it too, and likely in November. I share a lot of the concerns expressed above. Even though we are having a lot of distance learning issues, I don’t know how keen I feel to send her back :/ I guess we’ll see what options they come up with. I wonder if it stems from data from schools in person. I was just reading an article in my Sunday paper about how the positive cases for elementary ages are low. It’s too bad there isn’t a national database focused on educational organizations that help with tracking the number of cases by age and school type.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2020 11:07:44 GMT -6
Oh there was a party in our neighborhood last night too. Weird.
Our principal expressed that she would hate if kids came back to school and then brought the virus to their parents and grandparents. Which this seems like the perfect recipe for. Makes me wonder what’s going on behind the scenes with the board and super.
Consistency is a big deal for me too. It feels like we are just now getting into the swing of distance learning and then they’re going to change everything up. It doesn’t seem great for learning when kids are having to adjust to a new routine every few weeks.
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Post by AmyG on Sept 27, 2020 12:08:44 GMT -6
I saw a statistic that 1 in every 250 people worldwide have contracted covid. Im not awake enough yet to check the math but Wow
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Post by gymngemini on Sept 27, 2020 14:10:02 GMT -6
I find it interesting how quickly schools are trying to move the k-2 set from distance learning back to school. Our district seems to be strongly considering it too, and likely in November. I share a lot of the concerns expressed above. Even though we are having a lot of distance learning issues, I don’t know how keen I feel to send her back :/ I guess we’ll see what options they come up with. I wonder if it stems from data from schools in person. I was just reading an article in my Sunday paper about how the positive cases for elementary ages are low. It’s too bad there isn’t a national database focused on educational organizations that help with tracking the number of cases by age and school type. That's interesting and I would love if there was some data nationwide. Our district announced they are moving to in person K-4 and hybrid 5-8 at the end of October. The high school plans seem confusing but I haven't paid super close attention. The options for staying remote seem not great in our district as well. It's frustrating too because I felt like their original hybrid plan with 100% remote option and staying fully remote for the semester both seem like they had/have better plans then what they are pivoting to now.
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Post by sctiger on Sept 27, 2020 15:44:23 GMT -6
My district is phasing in 1st grade and self contained sped students. I'm all for K-2 (at the very least) going back. The classes are small enough and one teacher and 20-22 kids (with masks when not distanced) is a lot safer than high school teachers with 80-100+. Our elementary schools have done well so far and I believe the benefits outweigh the risk at this time. They are working towards this.
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Post by willow on Sept 28, 2020 7:52:02 GMT -6
So are the Olympics really going to be held next summer? I know Japan is doing better than we are but man, the logistics of how to make that remotely safe seems like a nightmare. Even a year a way.
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Post by blurnette989 on Sept 28, 2020 8:17:40 GMT -6
So are the Olympics really going to be held next summer? I know Japan is doing better than we are but man, the logistics of how to make that remotely safe seems like a nightmare. Even a year a way. Yeah I can't imagine how. I keep thinking about grindr crashed during the 2012 olympics- so many people just trying to bang strangers. The olympic village is always rumored to be a hotspot of lots of sex. So I just always think of olympics and people in close quarters breathing heavily, for sport or fun. Seems like a terrible idea in a pandemic.
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Post by byjove on Sept 28, 2020 8:19:36 GMT -6
So are the Olympics really going to be held next summer? I know Japan is doing better than we are but man, the logistics of how to make that remotely safe seems like a nightmare. Even a year a way. I don't think anyone knows. Japan is just worried about not having a date on the table and losing its investment. It could very well be rescheduled again, but they'll wait til the last second to announce that.
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Post by willow on Sept 28, 2020 8:50:53 GMT -6
Yeah I was thinking both the congregation of the athletes -- which probably is one of the things they could try to control a bit better, but also just the huge amounts of people coming to the city to watch in the big arenas, etc. There is no way the world will have this under control well enough to have that many people at one place for so many days in a row. I just can't see it. I am sad for Japan, because this is going to lose them so much money. And for the athletes who train their asses off and usually live in pretty low income while paying for their own training, etc. COVID just is ruining everything.
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Post by Eames on Sept 28, 2020 13:07:07 GMT -6
I have now completely lost my sense of taste and smell! I was wondering if it would happen. I'm really sad because we had "sinfully chocolate" cake left from my daughter's birthday, and it's just not worth it right now, lol. If you can't eat cake during a pandemic, when can you huh?
My H and I are both feeling better after those mild symptoms. Kids still good too.
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Post by piratecat on Sept 28, 2020 13:11:14 GMT -6
I have now completely lost my sense of taste and smell! I was wondering if it would happen. I'm really sad because we had "sinfully chocolate" cake left from my daughter's birthday, and it's just not worth it right now, lol. If you can't eat cake during a pandemic, when can you huh? My H and I are both feeling better after those mild symptoms. Kids still good too. Gahhh. Can you freeze the cake until you're better? I'm glad your symptoms are mild otherwise.
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Post by dc2london on Sept 28, 2020 13:12:30 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Sept 28, 2020 18:34:48 GMT -6
Did we discuss this? (I seriously have difficulty keeping up with all the crazy)
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Post by addymac on Sept 28, 2020 21:16:48 GMT -6
Literally reading anything that the govt does these days just makes me want to scream.
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Post by byjove on Sept 29, 2020 8:27:45 GMT -6
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Post by dc2london on Sept 29, 2020 12:14:26 GMT -6
Thanks for sharing. Our ED visits are
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Post by Uncaripswife on Sept 29, 2020 15:25:55 GMT -6
Am I reading it wrong? I saw a lot of green. But that 14-day cases per 100,000 is alarming.
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Post by byjove on Sept 29, 2020 17:19:00 GMT -6
Am I reading it wrong? I saw a lot of green. But that 14-day cases per 100,000 is alarming. There is a lot of green, but the increase in positive cases from last week was deep orange, while FFX county for example is down and in the green. Idk, you’re right, it could be worse. And schools can do what they want with this info- there is no criteria that must be met for schools to open. But I would prefer if everything was green.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Sept 29, 2020 17:34:34 GMT -6
Am I reading it wrong? I saw a lot of green. But that 14-day cases per 100,000 is alarming. There is a lot of green, but the increase in positive cases from last week was deep orange, while FFX county for example is down and in the green. Idk, you’re right, it could be worse. And schools can do what they want with this info- there is no criteria that must be met for schools to open. But I would prefer if everything was green. Me too. That increase is so steep it had me wondering if there was an outbreak in a nursing home or jail or something similar.
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Post by jaygee on Sept 29, 2020 17:44:31 GMT -6
San Francisco moved to a tier lower in CA’s system and are now at “moderate” spread. It’s pretty dang impressive. I hope they can stay stable as they open up (cautiously).
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