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Post by peachsmama on Aug 27, 2020 7:05:56 GMT -6
peachsmama not Kim, but Dh is always short on time to lunch, so I try to make sure to buy him some nice granola bars for him to bring to school! Good idea. A few prepackaged snacks would be nice to have in her classroom.
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Post by jewels on Aug 27, 2020 7:37:05 GMT -6
peachsmama not Kim, but Dh is always short on time to lunch, so I try to make sure to buy him some nice granola bars for him to bring to school! Good idea. A few prepackaged snacks would be nice to have in her classroom. Are they allowed to eat there? I know around here, for the schools that are opening, there is no lunch and snack is only on days they can go outside (which, yikes, there are going to be some Hangry kids and teachers!!)
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Post by mwhip on Aug 27, 2020 7:41:17 GMT -6
trtlcrzy our list is similar to yours, but more of each of those items. 24 pencils, 10 glue sticks, 4 boxes of crayons, 2 kleenex, 8 dry erase markers, etc. I only have some of those numbers memorized because I had to put my kids name on all of them. They're all bagged up and ready to go in her backpack to send to school tomorrow. My guess is if numbers start to get closer to the 15% that is our gating factor, then they will send the bag home with extra supplies that I'm sending in tomorrow.
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Post by guster on Aug 27, 2020 7:54:46 GMT -6
@peach, I ordered those for mh. I thought any little bit would help.
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Post by klong11 on Aug 28, 2020 8:16:44 GMT -6
Had a panic attack yesterday because the teacher emailed us saying there was a 1 on 1 zoom to sign up for and both days were days Cadence would be at my mother's, then I get another email saying we need to go to the school on the 3rd to pick up the supplemental folder, which had not been mentioned at all until yesterday's email. The 3rd form every other email was just for supply pick up if you had pre-ordered, which I didn't.
I got annoyed at the last minute stuff, then I started questioning if mh was even going to be able to handle Cadence virtual learning because I'm sitting on the couch and he's cussing up a storm about home much he hate photoshop. He has his ear buds in, so he can't hear me. This is an every day thing. He cusses non-stop. How is my kid going to be in a zoom lesson with her class and mh is in the background teaching other people's 6 year olds the fine art of language usage. Cadence piped in that she already knew all the words. ok, great.
But, just the idea of when she's supposed to be doing asynchronous learning, what if she needs help? Is he going to yell at her and tell her he's busy. What if they have meetings at the same time, are they going to be able to hear their own stuff. Is he going to be able to help her log in at the right times?
She has a meet the first grade team zoom today and I left all the info on her desk by the laptop, and last night he started arguing with me that it wasn't at 10am. Apparently he put in his calendar it was at 10:30. Uh, then you put it in wrong because it's at 10. He gets all the same emails I do, but he doesn't read them, just deletes them. Says that I handle all the "Cadence stuff" any way.
So should I get like a dot or something to set timers on so that when she is supposed to be logged in she knows. Teach her to log herself in and out, obviously, so that she doesn't have to rely on him. I'm just so stressed about all of it.
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Post by nam2013 on Aug 28, 2020 8:49:47 GMT -6
@klonogoria11 I hate hate hate last minute things. I’m sorry about all the added stress.
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Post by peachsmama on Aug 28, 2020 9:47:19 GMT -6
Had a panic attack yesterday because the teacher emailed us saying there was a 1 on 1 zoom to sign up for and both days were days Cadence would be at my mother's, then I get another email saying we need to go to the school on the 3rd to pick up the supplemental folder, which had not been mentioned at all until yesterday's email. The 3rd form every other email was just for supply pick up if you had pre-ordered, which I didn't. I got annoyed at the last minute stuff, then I started questioning if mh was even going to be able to handle Cadence virtual learning because I'm sitting on the couch and he's cussing up a storm about home much he hate photoshop. He has his ear buds in, so he can't hear me. This is an every day thing. He cusses non-stop. How is my kid going to be in a zoom lesson with her class and mh is in the background teaching other people's 6 year olds the fine art of language usage. Cadence piped in that she already knew all the words. ok, great. But, just the idea of when she's supposed to be doing asynchronous learning, what if she needs help? Is he going to yell at her and tell her he's busy. What if they have meetings at the same time, are they going to be able to hear their own stuff. Is he going to be able to help her log in at the right times? She has a meet the first grade team zoom today and I left all the info on her desk by the laptop, and last night he started arguing with me that it wasn't at 10am. Apparently he put in his calendar it was at 10:30. Uh, then you put it in wrong because it's at 10. He gets all the same emails I do, but he doesn't read them, just deletes them. Says that I handle all the "Cadence stuff" any way. So should I get like a dot or something to set timers on so that when she is supposed to be logged in she knows. Teach her to log herself in and out, obviously, so that she doesn't have to rely on him. I'm just so stressed about all of it. I probably would. I would be worried that he is not making it a priority and wont make sure she makes all her meetings.
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Post by guster on Aug 28, 2020 9:47:32 GMT -6
Everything is super last minute here, too, @klongoria. I understand it, but it’s still super frustrating. Will C’s zoom calls be at the same time each day? Would It help to write out a a schedule for her and use something like an iPhone to set multiple alarms for it?
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Post by inthekitty on Aug 28, 2020 9:53:08 GMT -6
I share some of your worries klong11 . In the spring my kids' school had weekly packets with a daily syllabus and we basically just emailed in work when completed and Zooms were only FRI morning. I think a lot of it changed because of parents complaining wanting more interaction, so this year I've seen proposed schedules for the kids which involve live sessions off and on between 8:30-3:00 every day with break times in between for "independent work." I have no idea how I'm supposed to keep two kids on track with this crap all day long. I'm glad there's more live sessions, but I wish it was maybe two blocks in the morning and call it a day. I don't know how they expect parents (including teachers who are parents) as well as DCPs to do this shit. Or how they expect young kids to stay engaged for online lectures. That's not how it works in the classroom--they move around, go to different stations, the teacher walks around to them doing small group work. Plus, Maddie's Zooms were only in small groups last year and that worked pretty well, when it's the whole classroom I fully expect a shit show and some parents who will log-in late and interrupt because "Timmy can't hear/see you, what does that mean? Timmy can't do that." It would be much different if my kids were middle school-aged, but this is way too much to expect of elementary school kids (and their parents). They cannot be in the same room as me when I have patient interviews. They cannot be in the same room as MH when he's doing his school sessions. They cannot be in the same room as each other because they won't be able to hear/speak without interrupting each other. At this point my plan is to have them at a desk in their own rooms and try to run back and forth between my workspace and upstairs to check on them on the days I WFH. It's so unrealistic. I would set reminders on the Dot and have a schedule written out. That's my plan at this point because the kids are going to have to be much more independent than I'd like because of our schedules. I'm fully anticipating they'll miss/be late to some of their sessions.
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Post by flamingo on Aug 28, 2020 12:01:31 GMT -6
*snip* Plus, Maddie's Zooms were only in small groups last year and that worked pretty well, when it's the whole classroom I fully expect a shit show and some parents who will log-in late and interrupt because "Timmy can't hear/see you, what does that mean? Timmy can't do that." Oh, you must have been in our online orientation this morning. This has been on the calendar for weeks, we've gotten 17 email reminders from school, our teacher personally called yesterday, etc. And yet somehow people are still like, "huh?" Also, the INABILITY OF PEOPLE TO MUTE THEIR MICROPHONES. Yes, I am yelling. Hello, this is not new. B/n kids talking, background household noise, interference, I couldn't hear anything for half of it. We all had kindergartners last year, we all had to do online school. Why can you not do this? There were some technical difficulties (not sure if they were Schoology, internet related, or what) and while teachers were getting things figured out, one lovely mother goes, "Ladies? It would be wonderful if you could make a creative video to send out" in the most patronizing tone ever. How those teachers didn't lose their shit in that moment, I will never know, but I admire their restraint.
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Post by nam2013 on Aug 28, 2020 12:15:42 GMT -6
Online zoom classes for more then 2/3x 30 minutes seems way to much to ask for kids this young... I mean our high school kids struggled to stay focussed for longer than that!
Eta I also don’t have a solution, but it sucks kids/you all have to deal with all this...
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Post by jewels on Aug 28, 2020 12:27:23 GMT -6
We had our zoom meeting with the principal to discuss how it will go this morning and, while I am still upset it is all remote, I adore our school and our principal. He really cares so much, and it is evident in everything he does.
They will be on google class all day but he stressed that at this age, they can not focus all day, so the teachers will be giving them tons of breaks and telling them to walk away from their computers to do X or Y and then come back.
I am trying to focus on hopeful. Hopeful they get back in school. Hopeful the quacks out there who don't believe in any of this don't ruin it for the rest of us. Hopeful that they figure out an effective treatment and/or vaccine soon.
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Post by inthekitty on Aug 28, 2020 13:29:45 GMT -6
We had our zoom meeting with the principal to discuss how it will go this morning and, while I am still upset it is all remote, I adore our school and our principal. He really cares so much, and it is evident in everything he does. They will be on google class all day but he stressed that at this age, they can not focus all day, so the teachers will be giving them tons of breaks and telling them to walk away from their computers to do X or Y and then come back. I am trying to focus on hopeful. Hopeful they get back in school. Hopeful the quacks out there who don't believe in any of this don't ruin it for the rest of us. Hopeful that they figure out an effective treatment and/or vaccine soon. I'm hoping this is how it plays out and the schedule is just something they have for appearances. I'm glad to have Zoom sessions daily because I think that's needed to have some connection, but multiple sessions is overkill.
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Post by inthekitty on Aug 28, 2020 13:34:49 GMT -6
*snip* Plus, Maddie's Zooms were only in small groups last year and that worked pretty well, when it's the whole classroom I fully expect a shit show and some parents who will log-in late and interrupt because "Timmy can't hear/see you, what does that mean? Timmy can't do that." Oh, you must have been in our online orientation this morning. This has been on the calendar for weeks, we've gotten 17 email reminders from school, our teacher personally called yesterday, etc. And yet somehow people are still like, "huh?" Also, the INABILITY OF PEOPLE TO MUTE THEIR MICROPHONES. Yes, I am yelling. Hello, this is not new. B/n kids talking, background household noise, interference, I couldn't hear anything for half of it. We all had kindergartners last year, we all had to do online school. Why can you not do this? There were some technical difficulties (not sure if they were Schoology, internet related, or what) and while teachers were getting things figured out, one lovely mother goes, "Ladies? It would be wonderful if you could make a creative video to send out" in the most patronizing tone ever. How those teachers didn't lose their shit in that moment, I will never know, but I admire their restraint. Some people are so freaking rude. I'm still angry when I think about a parent who logged in 20 minutes late to Cass' last Zoom session of the year and kept interrupting to complain about tech problems that were clearly on her end since no one else had issues. It puts the teachers in an awkward position to be stuck dealing with rude and overbearing parents in their "classroom" and no way to boot them out.
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Post by flamingo on Aug 28, 2020 14:24:01 GMT -6
So our school seems to have paired up 2 teachers that will have a 'mixed' class of virtual and brick-and-mortar students. One is focusing on Language Arts/reading, the other on math, etc. While teacher A is teaching the in-person kids, teacher B will be teaching the virtual kids in another room, then they swap.
I *think* they are doing it this way b/c they're allowing virtual kids to rejoin the in-person class at the end of Q1 or the semester break, so they can keep the classes balanced as things return to normal.
I do think it would be tough to be teaching some in-person kids while simultaneously streaming and trying to include at-home kids, so I'm glad they've split it up this way.
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Post by lahdeedah on Aug 28, 2020 15:00:11 GMT -6
For those back in school, what are class numbers like? I just counted the sign up list for meet the teacher day and it’s 19. There may be more that haven’t signed up. I was hoping the numbers would be at 15-16, but I guess not.
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Post by lahdeedah on Aug 28, 2020 15:05:33 GMT -6
In line with last minute changes....has anyone had release times pushed up? Our school is doing two groups end of day releases. M is in the first group and dismissal is at 1:45! Second group at 230- normal time. I’m kind of annoyed because I haven’t signed M up for aftercare and was hoping to have him take the bus home and if I have to work, I would just tell my job I needed to leave at 3pm. I would get there 10-15 minutes after the bus dropped him off. Looks like the first bus group departs at 2:00.
Thanks for letting us know a week before school starts!
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Post by wedding on Aug 28, 2020 15:16:44 GMT -6
In the Spring when we had an all school day Zoom schedule the teacher would post the schedule every night for what we were doing the next day but the time blocks remained the same.
8am- morning mtg and attendance 8:30- the days lesson Then we would do assignments in the next couple of hours. Each week the kids had small group classes once for ELA and once for math. So C would have say a half hour of small group with four other kids and the teacher on zoom and basically do that days math or ELA assignment together. 10:30- office hours drop in on zoom or some sort of video and assignment 11:30- We would break for lunch. 12:30- specials like gym, art, music, STEAM 1:30- closing meeting 2-end day
So it was a predictable schedule which was good. We struggled with having so many transitions in the day. It was hard to get him back on track and we were always interrupted with work having to log him into things. Google classroom and ZOOM were the main ones but then assignments were in Seesaw or Epic books. Reading also in Scholastic books. So it was a lot. I think though with a kid that is more motivated and more tech savvy it would be ok.
Eta I would guess there would be a predictable schedule in person and not all things would have the kid chained to the computer at home.
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Post by peachsmama on Aug 28, 2020 15:18:11 GMT -6
lahdeedah they are but not such a dramatic difference. The high school is letting drivers and those that get picked up out at 1:50. All others are released to busses at 2. For middle school it's similar. Just times are different. Elementary is 20 minutes early for pick ups, bus kids all at the same time but they will call them down by buss number. Once the buss has all it's kids it leaves. Then the next bus pulls forward and their kids are called down. Seems like a good way to keep kids from forming big groups but what if a kid isn't paying attention and misses his/hers?
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Post by flamingo on Aug 28, 2020 15:23:19 GMT -6
That is a pretty big difference this late in the game lahdeedah!
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Post by peachsmama on Aug 28, 2020 15:48:49 GMT -6
So I had planned on driving M because I was concerned about social distancing on the bus. Then on this weeks youtube informational the school is doing, the transportation director encouraged those that could drive, to do so. Great, that was my plan anyways. Then our principal gets on and says that the parking lot is so small he needs parents to use the bussing so it's not a mess each day and parents aren't waiting 45+ minutes to get their child. Wut? So I was completely confused. I emailed him and basically told him I needed him to tell me what to do. LOL. He would not. He said it is a concern but they will figure it out and make it work before school and we should do what works best for our family. So now IDK what to do.
Someone tell me what to do. Please.
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Post by flamingo on Aug 28, 2020 16:12:35 GMT -6
peachsmama I went back and forth on the busing (bussing? They both look weird) issue for several reasons...ease #s, convenience vs. having to get out the door a bit earlier to catch it, the mess that I'm sure the car-line will be with temp checks, etc. Ultimately I decided to let him try it for the first couple weeks and see how things go. Here kids wear masks on the bus, I'm not sure of any other 'distancing' measures other than frequent sanitation. Maybe temp checks? At this point, though, he's been in camp, socializing with friends and is now going to be in school around kids all day anyway, so I don't think another few minutes is ultimately going to make much difference. But that's just me.
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Post by wedding on Aug 28, 2020 18:34:46 GMT -6
lahdeedah we have been told classes will be about 20 students. We have also been told that start and end times will be staggered through the district but not what those times are. We start in two weeks but people like my neighbors with three kids in three separate schools haven’t figured out if they can even do in person because of the unknown times. The district also said they may push the bussable distance out so our street may not even be able to use the bus. So in short, we are a mess too. I am mixed on if we will use the bus right now so if they do push it out, that would at least make my decision for me.
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Post by jewels on Aug 28, 2020 19:16:45 GMT -6
So our school seems to have paired up 2 teachers that will have a 'mixed' class of virtual and brick-and-mortar students. One is focusing on Language Arts/reading, the other on math, etc. While teacher A is teaching the in-person kids, teacher B will be teaching the virtual kids in another room, then they swap. I *think* they are doing it this way b/c they're allowing virtual kids to rejoin the in-person class at the end of Q1 or the semester break, so they can keep the classes balanced as things return to normal. I do think it would be tough to be teaching some in-person kids while simultaneously streaming and trying to include at-home kids, so I'm glad they've split it up this way. That sounds like a really good idea.
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Post by mwhip on Aug 29, 2020 6:59:06 GMT -6
For those back in school, what are class numbers like? I just counted the sign up list for meet the teacher day and it’s 19. There may be more that haven’t signed up. I was hoping the numbers would be at 15-16, but I guess not. Evies class has 17 students total. Last year was 18. Classrooms are big enough for them to socially distance well at least. But im wondering where all these kids are whose moms said they would not let them go to school in person.
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Post by mwhip on Aug 29, 2020 7:04:03 GMT -6
peachsmama if you are comfortable bussing, and can still sign up for it, I would. The pick up is a shit show with so many parents there. Be prepared to go early. I take my laptop and work in the parking lot and show up 30 minutes before dismissal. One of our neighbors is bussing. She said the kids get their temp taken as they get on the bus, they have to wear a mask to get on the bus, each family has assigned seats, every other seat is not used. So it sounds like they are doing everything they can to keep the kids safe. Our school district recommended parents drive their kids to keep less students on the bus. Which has made pick up of 400ish students at one time a damn mess. lahdeedah I would love staggered release times, although finding out the week before would be annoying AF.
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Post by nam2013 on Aug 29, 2020 7:19:20 GMT -6
Currently there are 28 kids in ds’ class and 18 in dd’s no social distancing between students, only between kids and teachers. Not that that’s feasible when teaching 4yo 🤷🏼♀️. No face masks over here to. Extra hand washing, lots of open windows and extra cleaning. Staggered drop offs and pick ups at the gate, as opposed to bringing them in to their class rooms. I’m okay with this. The kids went to school for 8 weeks like this before summer and it didn’t affect numbers and they are so happy to go and be with friends.
I’m very worried about the middle/High school though who are operating with the Same guidelines...
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Post by kim22 on Aug 29, 2020 8:35:34 GMT -6
peachsmama I would do no bus because we were told if a kid on the bus tests positive, all the kids could be quarantined. I know this could also happen in class but I’m looking to minimize our chances of being quarantined.
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Post by guster on Aug 29, 2020 8:49:42 GMT -6
Josie‘s class jumped in numbers. She was at 10 when the reopening plan was made and now she is at 14. The school district was very kind to the teachers and waived the tuition for their own children. Most of the other districts in our area are on a hybrid model but because we are five days a week they thought this would solve the problem of childcare for teachers’ children and would also help keep germ bubbles a little bit smaller for everyone. We are going to wait at least three weeks to see how they handle their socialization and to see if MH’s school does well with keeping the virus at bay. Teenagers are a very different species when it comes to their days off from hybrid learning and doing what they are supposed to do in terms of masking up and social distancing. If it all works out, Josie will go back to school. The only frustration I have is that they are trying to build cohorts for lunch and playground time. Our cohort is kindergarten and first grade, and the numbers were at 36 (26 incoming kindergartners and 10 first graders but now that cohort of 36 is up to at least by 4, if the kindergarten numbers stayed stable. I am hoping they will break that cohort in half.
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Post by guster on Aug 29, 2020 8:53:03 GMT -6
Also, are your school districts using masks for recess? Josie’s is not (actually no masks anytime they’re outside) but they expect the kids to keep a 6 foot distance (they call it Eagles’ wings). I don’t know why but I don’t see it being very efficient. It seems like it’s going to be quite the hassle for the aides to try to keep them apart.
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