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Post by purple on Apr 26, 2018 10:19:03 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! Sounds like my bbts are regularly going to be based on 2-3 hours of sleep. I love that, 2 years after having MOTN wake ups from DS, I have my own MOTN wakeups. Also, did I mention I hate temping? sharebear, I hate temping so much that I'm still avoiding it. It makes me so stressed that I get stress related insomnia and basically stop sleeping for more than an hour at a time. I know people say it's the only way to really know your cycle and I'm sure they're right, but not sleeping means it's not a typical cycle anyway.
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Post by sammysam on Apr 26, 2018 10:30:31 GMT -6
charliefox sammysam I was taught that it was more important to take it at the same time than after a bigger chunk of sleep. That is good to know! Sometimes I have to wake up to go to DD/DS and it's usually around 2am. If I go to sleep around 10, is it better to temp around 2am or is it better to temp at 5:30 am if I'm back to sleep around 3am? Honestly I don't think it matters as long as you're consistent. If you know you're going to fall asleep again then you can temp at 5:30...it doesn't seem to make a difference. I've done it both ways and the temp pattern was exactly the same. So honestly I think you're fine either way;)
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Post by sharebear on Apr 26, 2018 11:06:33 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! Sounds like my bbts are regularly going to be based on 2-3 hours of sleep. I love that, 2 years after having MOTN wake ups from DS, I have my own MOTN wakeups. Also, did I mention I hate temping? sharebear , I hate temping so much that I'm still avoiding it. It makes me so stressed that I get stress related insomnia and basically stop sleeping for more than an hour at a time. I know people say it's the only way to really know your cycle and I'm sure they're right, but not sleeping means it's not a typical cycle anyway. I'd be willing to bet that my sleep is worse this week now that I'm temping. In addition to my fear of oversleeping and being late to work, I'm afraid that I'm going to just jump up like normal with my alarm and make it through my routine without temping and then messing up the charts. I'm going to give this another week and then I may fold on temping. It has never told me anything about my cycle so I doubt it will start now.
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Post by sammysam on Apr 26, 2018 11:16:29 GMT -6
sharebear , I hate temping so much that I'm still avoiding it. It makes me so stressed that I get stress related insomnia and basically stop sleeping for more than an hour at a time. I know people say it's the only way to really know your cycle and I'm sure they're right, but not sleeping means it's not a typical cycle anyway. I'd be willing to bet that my sleep is worse this week now that I'm temping. In addition to my fear of oversleeping and being late to work, I'm afraid that I'm going to just jump up like normal with my alarm and make it through my routine without temping and then messing up the charts. I'm going to give this another week and then I may fold on temping. It has never told me anything about my cycle so I doubt it will start now. Honestly I only temp to make it feel like I'm doing something productive instead of just waiting. OPKs have always been my primary go to. Temping totally screwed with my sleep at first but only because I was entering it into FF immediately and then obsessing about "charts like mine" at 4am. Now I'm just using temps as confirmation of O and not being too strict about when I take it. If I think of it as just interesting hobby enhancer rather than required life or death info then it works well.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 11:17:56 GMT -6
Hugs to everyone today, I hope we all graduate out of here together and all this disappointment leads to us throwing one hell of a gif party together on our amazing group bmb. That's my dream.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 11:20:11 GMT -6
I'm waiting for my pelvic ultrasound, my doc was really nice yesterday and said he's sending me on to a specialist regardless of what we see today, he just wants to send me to the new doc with as much ammo as possible. That made me feel really well taken care of. He was so sympathetic and hopeful for me and really validated my thoughts that I might have had a chemical pregnancy. Anyways nothing really to update on besides a good interaction with a doctor which is never guaranteed right? I've had things go both ways in the past.
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Post by Foxy on Apr 26, 2018 11:48:37 GMT -6
Thanks everyone! Sounds like my bbts are regularly going to be based on 2-3 hours of sleep. I love that, 2 years after having MOTN wake ups from DS, I have my own MOTN wakeups. Also, did I mention I hate temping? sharebear, I hate temping so much that I'm still avoiding it. It makes me so stressed that I get stress related insomnia and basically stop sleeping for more than an hour at a time. I know people say it's the only way to really know your cycle and I'm sure they're right, but not sleeping means it's not a typical cycle anyway. I just started temping this cycle and I almost hate more because now I'm obsessing over my temps. I've spent all morning googling implantation dip or AF coming 9 dpo. No surprise that there isn't a clear answer.... suuuper happy to have yet another thing to drive myself crazy with :sarcasm:
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Post by Foxy on Apr 26, 2018 11:50:20 GMT -6
I'm really sorry about all of the CD 1s. Waking up to AF and on the sheets is like the worst disappointment compounded.
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Post by wildhoney on Apr 26, 2018 12:12:19 GMT -6
Tlex That makes me so happy to hear your doctor is being so kind to you and that he's referring you to a specialist! The world needs more sympathetic doctors.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 12:12:28 GMT -6
So I have this new anxiety which is a bit weird which is what if my doc says everything looks perfect and there's no reason to explain why my cycles are so long and unpredictable and wonky? Then what? I'm sure I'm not the first to wonder or worry about this. My recent bloodwork is borderline PCOS but not bad, if that makes sense? My ratio of something to something (FSH to LH? Can't remember) was just shy of 2:1 but normally with PCOS it would look worse, like 3:1. But I guess 2:1 still meets diagnostic criteria. They diagnosed me with PCOS when I was 16 but that's really young and I've had two kids since then so I guess a lot could have changed hormonally. Maybe that's not what I'm dealing with? Just getting the thoughts out of my head, I don't anticipate anyone here having answers!
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Post by wildhoney on Apr 26, 2018 13:04:35 GMT -6
Tlex I felt the same way as you after my OB told me my ultrasound looked perfect. I was worried that the RE wouldn't do anything for me. I don't think you need to worry. Maybe it's not PCOS, but I think the specialist will still want to shorten your cycles. Aren't they over 35 days?
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 13:18:53 GMT -6
Tlex I felt the same way as you after my OB told me my ultrasound looked perfect. I was worried that the RE wouldn't do anything for me. I don't think you need to worry. Maybe it's not PCOS, but I think the specialist will still want to shorten your cycles. Aren't they over 35 days? Yeah anywhere from 55-70 days typically, averaging around 62. I'm relieved to hear you've felt that way too! It's not that I want something to be wrong is that I want an obvious answer, I guess.
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Post by wildhoney on Apr 26, 2018 13:25:54 GMT -6
Tlex Yes, I feel that way waiting for every test result. Like please let everything be okay, but also please give me answers as to why this is happening. I feel you.
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Post by sammysam on Apr 26, 2018 13:51:42 GMT -6
Hugs to everyone today, I hope we all graduate out of here together and all this disappointment leads to us throwing one hell of a gif party together on our amazing group bmb. That's my dream. This is my dream too!
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Post by sammysam on Apr 26, 2018 13:56:17 GMT -6
Tlex sorry for all the stress but hopefully regardless of whether or not they find anything they will at least have some ideas or suggestions that could lead to a good course of action going forward. I'm still waiting for a call from an RE to set up an appointment over here. But I'm at the opposite end of the spectrum. I don't think there are any issues at play for us besides age...even my doctor told me because we did get pregnant not too long ago it's likely just a waiting game for us. Problem is I hate waiting.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 14:05:07 GMT -6
wildhoney and sammysam thanks guys, you've both made me feel loads better and much less stressed now. And sammysam I think you need to join me in adopting my grandma's catchphrase - "patience is a virtue but it's not one of mine!" I've probably already shared that haha... goldfish memory here
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 14:05:54 GMT -6
sammysam I can't believe you're still waiting on an appointment date. Like... come on, calendar isn't going to change people, let's mark it down.
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Post by sammysam on Apr 26, 2018 14:13:37 GMT -6
sammysam I can't believe you're still waiting on an appointment date. Like... come on, calendar isn't going to change people, let's mark it down. I know right? I don't care if the appointment is like 6 months from now but at least call and let me know!
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Post by sammysam on Apr 26, 2018 14:14:27 GMT -6
wildhoney and sammysam thanks guys, you've both made me feel loads better and much less stressed now. And sammysam I think you need to join me in adopting my grandma's catchphrase - "patience is a virtue but it's not one of mine!" I've probably already shared that haha... goldfish memory here Definitely not one of mine! I will definitely be using this.
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Post by Yogurt on Apr 26, 2018 17:54:46 GMT -6
If my progesterone is the issue, would there be a certain day of my cycle I should be having that tested? Some women start taking it that day after o? If that's the issue, I don't want to be "too late" and lose another pregnancy. I hear it doesn't hurt so most doc will prescribe it easily?
I'm so nervous for a trip to Florida in June, where I'd be testing away from my doctors. I'd like to be in touch with a clinic there if possible for betas and progesterone checks, in case I get a bfp at my mom's in Florida.
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Post by charliefox on Apr 26, 2018 18:15:29 GMT -6
charliefox sammysam I was taught that it was more important to take it at the same time than after a bigger chunk of sleep. That is good to know! Sometimes I have to wake up to go to DD/DS and it's usually around 2am. If I go to sleep around 10, is it better to temp around 2am or is it better to temp at 5:30 am if I'm back to sleep around 3am? Ugh, I seriously hate that someone is telling women to take it at the same time each day! Yes, if you have a predictable schedule and always get a full night's sleep then taking it at the same time makes sense but why take it at 6am everyday if sometimes you've been asleep for 7 hours, sometimes awake for 45 mins, or asleep for 1 hour? Makes no sense. It's your resting temperature so you just need to make sure you'd been resting a while beforehand /rant haha (not at you, just at "them" lol)
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Post by charliefox on Apr 26, 2018 18:20:20 GMT -6
If my progesterone is the issue, would there be a certain day of my cycle I should be having that tested? Some women start taking it that day after o? If that's the issue, I don't want to be "too late" and lose another pregnancy. I hear it doesn't hurt so most doc will prescribe it easily? I'm so nervous for a trip to Florida in June, where I'd be testing away from my doctors. I'd like to be in touch with a clinic there if possible for betas and progesterone checks, in case I get a bfp at my mom's in Florida. Progesterone testing is usually done on "day 21" ie 7dpo because that's when it should be at it's peak. (also why my anxiety is always the WORST at 7dpo, stupid hormones /anecdote).
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Post by charliefox on Apr 26, 2018 18:22:02 GMT -6
Tlex, i know plenty of people who have gotten pregnant with long cycle and/or PCOS. I'm not sure what other issues could cause long cycles, so from my totally unprofessional uninformed point of view it sounds like PCOS even if it isn't as bad as some (you O on your own, yes?). FX you get a lot more answers soon!
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Post by Yogurt on Apr 26, 2018 19:36:49 GMT -6
If my progesterone is the issue, would there be a certain day of my cycle I should be having that tested? Some women start taking it that day after o? If that's the issue, I don't want to be "too late" and lose another pregnancy. I hear it doesn't hurt so most doc will prescribe it easily? I'm so nervous for a trip to Florida in June, where I'd be testing away from my doctors. I'd like to be in touch with a clinic there if possible for betas and progesterone checks, in case I get a bfp at my mom's in Florida. Progesterone testing is usually done on "day 21" ie 7dpo because that's when it should be at it's peak. (also why my anxiety is always the WORST at 7dpo, stupid hormones /anecdote). If I o on day 17-20, would I go at actual 7 dpo, which would be more like day 24-27?
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Post by wildhoney on Apr 26, 2018 19:58:33 GMT -6
Progesterone testing is usually done on "day 21" ie 7dpo because that's when it should be at it's peak. (also why my anxiety is always the WORST at 7dpo, stupid hormones /anecdote). If I o on day 17-20, would I go at actual 7 dpo, which would be more like day 24-27? My RE said to go 7 days after my first positive OPK.
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Post by wildhoney on Apr 26, 2018 20:01:16 GMT -6
charliefox sammysam I was taught that it was more important to take it at the same time than after a bigger chunk of sleep. That is good to know! Sometimes I have to wake up to go to DD/DS and it's usually around 2am. If I go to sleep around 10, is it better to temp around 2am or is it better to temp at 5:30 am if I'm back to sleep around 3am? Ugh, I seriously hate that someone is telling women to take it at the same time each day! Yes, if you have a predictable schedule and always get a full night's sleep then taking it at the same time makes sense but why take it at 6am everyday if sometimes you've been asleep for 7 hours, sometimes awake for 45 mins, or asleep for 1 hour? Makes no sense. It's your resting temperature so you just need to make sure you'd been resting a while beforehand /rant haha (not at you, just at "them" lol) It was my OB who told me this too haha. She was also the one to make me feel worthless after my chemical pregnancies so I am all for her being wrong in all things.
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Post by charliefox on Apr 26, 2018 20:49:49 GMT -6
Progesterone testing is usually done on "day 21" ie 7dpo because that's when it should be at it's peak. (also why my anxiety is always the WORST at 7dpo, stupid hormones /anecdote). If I o on day 17-20, would I go at actual 7 dpo, which would be more like day 24-27? yup, I'd go at whatever day is 7dpo. Going 7 days after a positive OPK would probably work too, it's just around that time when your progesterone would be at it's peak.
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Post by charliefox on Apr 26, 2018 20:51:43 GMT -6
wildhoney, ew yeah, big nope to that doc! Sorry she was the opposite of supportive, I hope you have someone better now.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 20:56:22 GMT -6
Tlex, i know plenty of people who have gotten pregnant with long cycle and/or PCOS. I'm not sure what other issues could cause long cycles, so from my totally unprofessional uninformed point of view it sounds like PCOS even if it isn't as bad as some (you O on your own, yes?). FX you get a lot more answers soon! Yup you're totally right, and I keep telling myself I've beaten this bitch twice, I can do it again! Thank you ❤️ For anyone else with long cycles I got KU with D1 on CD119 (not a typo) and I can't remember the exact CD with D2 (poor second child, all a blur) but I know it was another long one. I always tell myself I'm not out 'till I'm out.
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Post by Tlex on Apr 26, 2018 20:57:08 GMT -6
Ugh, I seriously hate that someone is telling women to take it at the same time each day! Yes, if you have a predictable schedule and always get a full night's sleep then taking it at the same time makes sense but why take it at 6am everyday if sometimes you've been asleep for 7 hours, sometimes awake for 45 mins, or asleep for 1 hour? Makes no sense. It's your resting temperature so you just need to make sure you'd been resting a while beforehand /rant haha (not at you, just at "them" lol) It was my OB who told me this too haha. She was also the one to make me feel worthless after my chemical pregnancies so I am all for her being wrong in all things. Mentally willing a lot of glitter crafts to her doorstep.
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