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Post by mustardseed2007 on Mar 19, 2019 14:22:33 GMT -6
I think he both adores the attention and the idea of connecting with Jayme using the media. I don't know that he thinks Jayme had feelings for him but he does want people to think about him and wants Jayme specifically to think about him.
And we are of course.
He's so sick.
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Post by brux on Mar 27, 2019 12:58:23 GMT -6
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Post by brux on Mar 27, 2019 13:00:50 GMT -6
I feel a glimmer of kindness toward him doing this and for setting the "no more charges in Douglas County" as a condition.
I really think he's still obsessed with her and is trying to protect her from harm in some twisted way. He doesn't see that he is the single biggest harm to her, but instead that he can somehow shield her from harm.
It's fucked up motivations with a result I'm not mad at.
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Post by brux on Mar 27, 2019 13:08:38 GMT -6
what the fuck, tho.
"Bye, Jayme," Patterson said, before he was led away.
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Post by bobyn on Mar 27, 2019 13:39:20 GMT -6
Now we wait two more months for sentencing. Bye, bitch.
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Post by Pistol on Mar 27, 2019 17:01:24 GMT -6
I wonder if the sentences will be run concurrent or one after another.
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Post by Jesslfar on Mar 27, 2019 22:07:04 GMT -6
I cannot be convinced he does not have a diagnosable mental health illness. He is so off at all points.
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Post by dontstopbelievin on May 24, 2019 5:28:21 GMT -6
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Post by Pistol on May 24, 2019 8:59:08 GMT -6
Gh I’m busy all day. Someone tag me when it’s done?
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Post by dontstopbelievin on May 24, 2019 20:54:57 GMT -6
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Post by Pistol on May 25, 2019 21:05:23 GMT -6
Thank you. I’m glad he won’t get out and I can only imagine how relieved Jayme must feel.
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Post by bobyn on Oct 17, 2020 7:55:55 GMT -6
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Post by sudsy on Oct 17, 2020 8:02:14 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 8:15:09 GMT -6
Holy fuck. Fuck them both royally and I hope they are tortured in prison.
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Post by cythe on Oct 17, 2020 9:17:50 GMT -6
"DailyMail.com can reveal that Watts still writes letters to his murdered daughters Bella and Celeste and has his parents read them out over the children's grave"
This physically makes me ill, sorry for sort of derailing this thread since it is the Jayme Closs thread but holy shit he has no right.
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Post by Yogurt on Oct 17, 2020 9:23:16 GMT -6
Yeah if I were his parents that'd be a no from me.
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Post by addymac on Oct 17, 2020 9:34:07 GMT -6
Yeah if I were his parents that'd be a no from me. Right? Like on what planet? My parents would fucking disown and never speak to me again if I did what he did. To be reading his letters at their graves? I wonder if his parents confirmed that they do that or if they just told him yeah yeah. Either way, speaking to him would be a no go for me. As a mom, deep down I may still have some love for my child even if he did something that, but as a moral person I wouldn’t let him in my life if DS did something like that. Fuck that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 9:36:42 GMT -6
Yeah if I were his parents that'd be a no from me. Right? Like on what planet? My parents would fucking disown and never speak to me again if I did what he did. To be reading his letters at their graves? I wonder if his parents confirmed that they do that or if they just told him yeah yeah. Either way, speaking to him would be a no go for me. As a mom, deep down I may still have some love for my child even if he did something that, but as a moral person I wouldn’t let him in my life if DS did something like that. Fuck that. I truly don't know how I'd feel as the grandparent in that scenario. I watched the documentary and they were very sad and saying I love you son at his trial. But your son is a monster who murdered his children and your grandchildren so. I don't fault them if they're conflicted. But he can get fucked in prison, I know I definitely feel that way.
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Post by readyornot on Oct 17, 2020 10:01:43 GMT -6
Have y'all heard/read any updates on how Jayme is doing?
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Post by cabbagecabbage on Oct 17, 2020 10:06:19 GMT -6
Right? Like on what planet? My parents would fucking disown and never speak to me again if I did what he did. To be reading his letters at their graves? I wonder if his parents confirmed that they do that or if they just told him yeah yeah. Either way, speaking to him would be a no go for me. As a mom, deep down I may still have some love for my child even if he did something that, but as a moral person I wouldn’t let him in my life if DS did something like that. Fuck that. I truly don't know how I'd feel as the grandparent in that scenario. I watched the documentary and they were very sad and saying I love you son at his trial. But your son is a monster who murdered his children and your grandchildren so. I don't fault them if they're conflicted. But he can get fucked in prison, I know I definitely feel that way. When his parents made that declaration at his pleading guilty for his family’s murder trial, I was gobsmacked. There is something insidious, performance-focused, and absolutely awful about that Watts family. If they loved those girls they can keep their murderer’s words away from their graves. That’s a gross control thing.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 17, 2020 10:10:22 GMT -6
yeah I heard that before. I thought here.
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Post by McBenny on Oct 17, 2020 10:12:47 GMT -6
For me, Bella and Cece don't live in their graves. I don't care. I can see loving the child you raised and hating what they did.
Some may choose to throw their child away. Some may not.
I don't hold his family in the same place as I do him.
I doubt they read his letters but I don't really care.
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Post by STP on Oct 17, 2020 10:18:55 GMT -6
I truly don't know how I'd feel as the grandparent in that scenario. I watched the documentary and they were very sad and saying I love you son at his trial. But your son is a monster who murdered his children and your grandchildren so. I don't fault them if they're conflicted. But he can get fucked in prison, I know I definitely feel that way. When his parents made that declaration at his pleading guilty for his family’s murder trial, I was gobsmacked. There is something insidious, performance-focused, and absolutely awful about that Watts family. If they loved those girls they can keep their murderer’s words away from their graves. That’s a gross control thing. I don't agree. The families of murderers are victims as well. That is their son. We all think we know how we would act, but we don't. That's their child. You can hate something someone did, but there is a primal and real connection to your offspring that isn't easily snapped. I will never hold the family of a criminal responsible absent clear cut reason to. Sure, we can delve into what nuclear family failings possibly lead to the action, but at the same time, a lot of people have fucked up families and don't turn into killers. It doesn't mean the grief isn't real. The daughters of GSK have visited him in prison. He's arguably one of the worst humans to walk this earth. But he's their dad. The parents of school shooters plead and weep over their sons in court. Not because they aren't horrified by the action, but bc it's their child. I imagine a lot of compartmentalizing happens in situations like this.
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Post by chocolatecake on Oct 17, 2020 10:27:48 GMT -6
When I think about Jayme I often wonder how she will move forward in life. Seeing your patents murdered and then being held in captivity for those months is something that would cause serious PTSD among other mental health problems. I know she has the support of everyone but it will never change the trauma. ☹️ I feel so sorry for her and all she went through.
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Post by cabbagecabbage on Oct 17, 2020 12:37:40 GMT -6
When his parents made that declaration at his pleading guilty for his family’s murder trial, I was gobsmacked. There is something insidious, performance-focused, and absolutely awful about that Watts family. If they loved those girls they can keep their murderer’s words away from their graves. That’s a gross control thing. I don't agree. The families of murderers are victims as well. That is their son. We all think we know how we would act, but we don't. That's their child. You can hate something someone did, but there is a primal and real connection to your offspring that isn't easily snapped. I will never hold the family of a criminal responsible absent clear cut reason to. Sure, we can delve into what nuclear family failings possibly lead to the action, but at the same time, a lot of people have fucked up families and don't turn into killers. It doesn't mean the grief isn't real. The daughters of GSK have visited him in prison. He's arguably one of the worst humans to walk this earth. But he's their dad. The parents of school shooters plead and weep over their sons in court. Not because they aren't horrified by the action, but bc it's their child. I imagine a lot of compartmentalizing happens in situations like this. Yes, they can love their son. I was told that time in court was for their victim impact statement as grandparents of the victims. Obviously they have many many reactions and levels of grief but that time was for the girls and they stole it for Chris. I think that speaks to something really off.
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Post by STP on Oct 17, 2020 13:03:02 GMT -6
I don't agree. The families of murderers are victims as well. That is their son. We all think we know how we would act, but we don't. That's their child. You can hate something someone did, but there is a primal and real connection to your offspring that isn't easily snapped. I will never hold the family of a criminal responsible absent clear cut reason to. Sure, we can delve into what nuclear family failings possibly lead to the action, but at the same time, a lot of people have fucked up families and don't turn into killers. It doesn't mean the grief isn't real. The daughters of GSK have visited him in prison. He's arguably one of the worst humans to walk this earth. But he's their dad. The parents of school shooters plead and weep over their sons in court. Not because they aren't horrified by the action, but bc it's their child. I imagine a lot of compartmentalizing happens in situations like this. Yes, they can love their son. I was told that time in court was for their victim impact statement as grandparents of the victims. Obviously they have many many reactions and levels of grief but that time was for the girls and they stole it for Chris. I think that speaks to something really off. They are victims of Chris. I don’t think it speaks to anything more than an unthinkable situation. The discussion of this case has included a lot of assuming things about people, since day one. It’s not the approach I enjoy when talking true crime.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 13:06:55 GMT -6
Yes, they can love their son. I was told that time in court was for their victim impact statement as grandparents of the victims. Obviously they have many many reactions and levels of grief but that time was for the girls and they stole it for Chris. I think that speaks to something really off. They are victims of Chris. I don’t think it speaks to anything more than an unthinkable situation. The discussion of this case has included a lot of assuming things about people, since day one. It’s not the approach I enjoy when talking true crime. I didn't hear about this story in real time and just heard about it from the documentary and it resonated with me. Like I still just stop and think about it from time to time. There are obvious monsters who prowl the street but this man... I cannot describe. Sorry, just sharing some thoughts. I don't fault the grandparents for having thousands of conflicting emotions.
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Post by willow on Oct 17, 2020 16:22:24 GMT -6
Jake Patterson kidnapping Jayme is the most terrifying kind of story for parents. A random monster who just sees your child one day and decides to take her. It still bothers me.
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Post by addymac on Oct 17, 2020 17:12:21 GMT -6
Jake Patterson kidnapping Jayme is the most terrifying kind of story for parents. A random monster who just sees your child one day and decides to take her. It still bothers me. Yeah it’s very scary. Like nothing could have been done to prevent it. Not like the victim is EVER to blame, but It wasn’t a “shouldn’t have gone into that aol chat room” Or “shouldn’t have walked down that alley at 2am alone” type thing. It was legit just her doing her daily life and this psycho just saw her and destroyed her life.
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Post by willow on Oct 17, 2020 18:55:19 GMT -6
Jake Patterson kidnapping Jayme is the most terrifying kind of story for parents. A random monster who just sees your child one day and decides to take her. It still bothers me. Yeah it’s very scary. Like nothing could have been done to prevent it. Not like the victim is EVER to blame, but It wasn’t a “shouldn’t have gone into that aol chat room” Or “shouldn’t have walked down that alley at 2am alone” type thing. It was legit just her doing her daily life and this psycho just saw her and destroyed her life. Exactly. About the ONLY thing that MAYBE would have helped in that scenario was if they had a super nice security system that would have alerted the cops immediately and the Dad hadn’t gone to the door. But who even knows. It only took Jake 4 minutes to kill both parents and take Jayme and the cops were driving past him to their house when he left so it was a super close call. It’s all just horrifying.
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