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Post by ArielMermaid on Sept 13, 2017 19:56:08 GMT -6
It's his creepy ass lies to Amber that did it. It was so unsettling how smoothly he kept his Europe vacation bullshit while his wife was missing. No doubt that was insane. But I still can't believe that was enough to send someone to death row. I think it should have been a hung jury. Oh I agree. I don't think they had anything to actually convict him. We all feel he is guilty but that doesn't prove anything. He is really good at murder apparently.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Sept 13, 2017 19:59:25 GMT -6
Also, most of the jurors in this case seem like terrible people.
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Post by mishka29 on Sept 13, 2017 20:04:38 GMT -6
There was a marathon on this weekend so I did a quick binge and caught up. I knew of the story but not the details.
I always thought they had forensic evidence from the boat. But clearly they didn't have much evidence at all. To hear some of those jurors talk after was truly something else. Looking forward to the finale next week.
As a side note - I'm glad they were able to get so many people to talk about this and especially those that were closely involved and the family. It's also interesting to see people from that time and what they look like now.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Sept 13, 2017 20:10:33 GMT -6
Also, most of the jurors in this case seem like terrible people. yes!!! It's scary to think these yahoos are the ones making such a major decision.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 19:08:58 GMT -6
Also, most of the jurors in this case seem like terrible people. yes!!! It's scary to think these yahoos are the ones making such a major decision. This is basically every jury I've served or potentially served on.
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Post by Jesslfar on Sept 19, 2017 18:29:47 GMT -6
New episode is up.
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Post by leatherpants on Sept 19, 2017 19:04:26 GMT -6
Also, most of the jurors in this case seem like terrible people. I still haven't watched but I keep reading this thread. After watching the Confession Tapes, I've decided I don't ever want to be judged by a jury of my peers. They seem overwhelmingly dumb.
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Post by bbgirl on Sept 19, 2017 23:36:06 GMT -6
I have not read beyond page one, but has it been discussed that Scott Peterson, and the case, were the inspiration for Gone Girl? Ben Affleck spent hours watching all of his interviews and even modeled his look after Scott. ETA: 'loosely based' on the Peterson case, but some of the major details were the same - they even both had a girlfriend on the side who first thought they were innocent before realizing what an ass they were. I can't find the article where Ben states he studied and watched Scott over and over again, but I firmly remember reading it about a year after the movie came out. www.bustle.com/articles/42056-is-gone-girl-based-on-a-true-story-no-but-this-real-life-case-does-share-the
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Post by bbgirl on Sept 19, 2017 23:59:55 GMT -6
Wasn't it alleged that his brother helped cover up the crime after the fact? (Still haven't had a chance to check out the documentary, I've just delved into the case multiple times).
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Post by Jesslfar on Sept 20, 2017 11:11:37 GMT -6
I did not know until this episode that two jurors were dismissed. The foreman being bullied by the other juror and leaving the jury only to have them come to a verdict 9 hours later does not feel like justice being served. I still think Scott did it, but I do not think he was given a fair and unbiased trial by a jury.
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Post by auburn on Sept 20, 2017 11:40:56 GMT -6
I did not know until this episode that two jurors were dismissed. The foreman being bullied by the other juror and leaving the jury only to have them come to a verdict 9 hours later does not feel like justice being served. I still think Scott did it, but I do not think he was given a fair and unbiased trial by a jury.This is where I stand. I also think that shows like this court controversy. I have seen a lot of posts about it on FB. If it were just a straight up crime show that revisits the story, no one would be talking about it, but now I have posts in my feed that say "If you've spent the last decade or so assuming Scott Peterson murdered his wife and unborn baby like I have, please go watch The Murder of Laci Peterson on A&E." Also, "I just finished the most recent episode. I'm so pissed. A man is sitting on death for for a crime that had nothing but circumstantial evidence." **I have cleaned up the grammar because it hurts me otherwise.** I believe the show is produced to elicit just such posts because then people are talking about it and watching it when normally they would not. I think he did it, and I think the trial wasn't fair. I also know that circumstantial evidence can often be very damning and that there isn't always a bloody fingerprint or a pool of DNA evidence. Just because it is circumstantial doesn't mean it is valid evidence. Does she not even Cold Justice? Kelly Seigler talks all the time about how valuable circumstantial evidence can be.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Sept 20, 2017 12:00:47 GMT -6
Well let's talk about how only Scott's family are involved with this series. It's definitely biased.
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Post by Jesslfar on Sept 20, 2017 12:16:26 GMT -6
I did not know until this episode that two jurors were dismissed. The foreman being bullied by the other juror and leaving the jury only to have them come to a verdict 9 hours later does not feel like justice being served. I still think Scott did it, but I do not think he was given a fair and unbiased trial by a jury.This is where I stand. I also think that shows like this court controversy. I have seen a lot of posts about it on FB. If it were just a straight up crime show that revisits the story, no one would be talking about it, but now I have posts in my feed that say "If you've spent the last decade or so assuming Scott Peterson murdered his wife and unborn baby like I have, please go watch The Murder of Laci Peterson on A&E." Also, "I just finished the most recent episode. I'm so pissed. A man is sitting on death for for a crime that had nothing but circumstantial evidence." **I have cleaned up the grammar because it hurts me otherwise.** I believe the show is produced to elicit just such posts because then people are talking about it and watching it when normally they would not. I think he did it, and I think the trial wasn't fair. I also know that circumstantial evidence can often be very damning and that there isn't always a bloody fingerprint or a pool of DNA evidence. Just because it is circumstantial doesn't mean it is valid evidence. Does she not even Cold Justice? Kelly Seigler talks all the time about how valuable circumstantial evidence can be. I agree. He was sentenced to death because Laci was a pretty White woman and he did not act the way a grieving husband should act. Many other pregnant women went missing and were murdered by spouses in the US at the same time, but she was a great news story and he was convicted in the media before the trial began. The way the jurors were treated by the crowd outside and the way they acted showed they thought they were carrying out some form of justice.
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Post by Jesslfar on Sept 20, 2017 12:18:38 GMT -6
Well let's talk about how only Scott's family are involved with this series. It's definitely biased. Scott's family is the only side to gain from this. My guess is his family hopes this will put pressure for an appeal and her family does not want to dig up their emotions or be a part of anything that might paint Scott as innocent since they believe him to be guilty.
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Post by auburn on Sept 20, 2017 12:27:36 GMT -6
Well let's talk about how only Scott's family are involved with this series. It's definitely biased. This alone reveals an agenda by producers. Their objective is to drive ratings.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Sept 20, 2017 12:28:10 GMT -6
I honestly don't know. I wish they would have explored the robbery more. And that jury was a hot mess.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Sept 20, 2017 12:33:19 GMT -6
I'm sure Laci's family doesn't want any part in this stuff anyway. They've been through enough. But the overwhelming support from Scott's family turns me off.
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Post by Jesslfar on Sept 20, 2017 13:29:41 GMT -6
I'm glad they showed the behavior of the jurors. Them joking about him missing the dish network and calling him "asshole" is really something.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Sept 20, 2017 13:58:53 GMT -6
I'm glad they showed the behavior of the jurors. Them joking about him missing the dish network and calling him "asshole" is really something. Yeah, I'm just... wow. I don't even know what to say about that.
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Post by budders on Sept 20, 2017 20:22:38 GMT -6
Catching up, I'm on episode 5 right now. I really hate that Nancy Grace is in this series, I LOATHE the fact that she won't just talk normally to the camera like everybody else.
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Post by budders on Sept 20, 2017 20:47:23 GMT -6
Ugh, this jury is something. Threatening the one guy who wants to discuss this solely on a factual basis so he'll leave and they can vote purely on emotion. The people ready to condemn him to death before even deliberating, and talking about the case in a bar and then not being held accountable. This was such an unfair trial, particularly because the jury had absolutely no presumption of innocence.
It is disgusting, too, how excessively happy the general public was with the verdict, and how terrible they were to Scott's family.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Sept 21, 2017 5:58:49 GMT -6
Ugh, this jury is something. Threatening the one guy who wants to discuss this solely on a factual basis so he'll leave and they can vote purely on emotion. The people ready to condemn him to death before even deliberating, and talking about the case in a bar and then not being held accountable. This was such an unfair trial, particularly because the jury had absolutely no presumption of innocence. It is disgusting, too, how excessively happy the general public was with the verdict, and how terrible they were to Scott's family. That angry mod yelling at Scott ' s mom when she came out of the court room...what's wrong with people?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2017 12:17:24 GMT -6
Well let's talk about how only Scott's family are involved with this series. It's definitely biased. Scott's family is the only side to gain from this. My guess is his family hopes this will put pressure for an appeal and her family does not want to dig up their emotions or be a part of anything that might paint Scott as innocent since they believe him to be guilty. There was another Laci special on another network that the info blurb said something along the lines of "in advance of his appeal" (I'm totally paraphrasing.) I didn't get to watch it because DH was watching one show and recording another and the asshole used all our streams. But I can't find anything anywhere about an appeal that the court is entertaining.
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Post by budders on Sept 22, 2017 15:35:16 GMT -6
Scott's family is the only side to gain from this. My guess is his family hopes this will put pressure for an appeal and her family does not want to dig up their emotions or be a part of anything that might paint Scott as innocent since they believe him to be guilty. There was another Laci special on another network that the info blurb said something along the lines of "in advance of his appeal" (I'm totally paraphrasing.) I didn't get to watch it because DH was watching one show and recording another and the asshole used all our streams. But I can't find anything anywhere about an appeal that the court is entertaining. I watched a preview clip for After the Verdict in this series (I thought it was a full 6th episode, but it was one of those teasers), and it said in writing that he had filed an appeal and it was working its way through the court system.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Sept 22, 2017 17:32:52 GMT -6
I don't understand why more wasn't done to figure out what happened to Connor.... his body was way more preserved than hers and they think he eventually came out after her body decayed (seriously makes me sick to my stomach typing this).... but there was tape on his ear and twine around him...there's no fucking way tape got stuck to his ear under water.... so what the hell really happened?!
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Sept 22, 2017 17:59:11 GMT -6
I don't understand why more wasn't done to figure out what happened to Connor.... his body was way more preserved than hers and they think he eventually came out after her body decayed (seriously makes me sick to my stomach typing this).... but there was tape on his ear and twine around him...there's no fucking way tape got stuck to his ear under water.... so what the hell really happened?! And the facet that he was maybe still alive until January 6. I don't know. I just don't think the case is as cut and dry as the cops thought it was.
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Post by mishka29 on Sept 22, 2017 18:42:11 GMT -6
I don't understand why more wasn't done to figure out what happened to Connor.... his body was way more preserved than hers and they think he eventually came out after her body decayed (seriously makes me sick to my stomach typing this).... but there was tape on his ear and twine around him...there's no fucking way tape got stuck to his ear under water.... so what the hell really happened?! Yes the tape on the ear seems like a pretty obvious sign that he didn't die in the water. I can't believe more wasn't made out of this fact.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Sept 22, 2017 18:53:23 GMT -6
I don't understand why more wasn't done to figure out what happened to Connor.... his body was way more preserved than hers and they think he eventually came out after her body decayed (seriously makes me sick to my stomach typing this).... but there was tape on his ear and twine around him...there's no fucking way tape got stuck to his ear under water.... so what the hell really happened?! Yes the tape on the ear seems like a pretty obvious sign that he didn't die in the water. I can't believe more wasn't made out of this fact. His umbilical cord was still attached, right? How long after she went missing was her body found? A few months, right?
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Post by mishka29 on Sept 22, 2017 19:05:07 GMT -6
Yes the tape on the ear seems like a pretty obvious sign that he didn't die in the water. I can't believe more wasn't made out of this fact. His umbilical cord was still attached, right? How long after she went missing was her body found? A few months, right? I can't recall about the cord. She was found 4 months after.
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Post by Jesslfar on Sept 23, 2017 9:34:09 GMT -6
Yes the tape on the ear seems like a pretty obvious sign that he didn't die in the water. I can't believe more wasn't made out of this fact. His umbilical cord was still attached, right? How long after she went missing was her body found? A few months, right? It was torn and not cut. I believe the placenta and umbilical cord were not present when found.
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