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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Aug 17, 2017 11:13:32 GMT -6
For those who did not follow the case, eventually Scott dyed his hair and was going "to golf in San Diego." When he was arrested he did not have have golf clubs in his car, but did have the following including a water purifier and Mexican currency which you would need in Mexico and not San Diego. www.thoughtco.com/items-found-in-scott-petersons-car-972776The thing that kills me is the Viagra. Â I guess he expected to meet some ladies while camping on the run in Mexico? That right there tells you he's guilty. Fleeing the country with viagra is not a good look
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 17, 2017 11:15:22 GMT -6
For those who did not follow the case, eventually Scott dyed his hair and was going "to golf in San Diego." When he was arrested he did not have have golf clubs in his car, but did have the following including a water purifier and Mexican currency which you would need in Mexico and not San Diego. www.thoughtco.com/items-found-in-scott-petersons-car-972776The thing that kills me is the Viagra. I guess he expected to meet some ladies while camping on the run in Mexico? I have no idea what he does with it. He had a bunch of affairs and no one mentioned ED that I recall. Maybe he planned on taking a bunch of unisom and viagra and having a wild night alone.
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Post by auburn on Aug 17, 2017 13:35:46 GMT -6
It has honestly never occurred to me that he didn't do it. There are no other viable suspects. It's the only thing that makes sense. It might be circumstantial, but my crime shows tell me that most murder cases are and circumstantial cases can be some of the strongest cases.
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Post by budders on Aug 17, 2017 20:38:40 GMT -6
I am watching episode 1 now. I totally believe that he did it, and agree that there are no other suspects.
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I do hate how the police officer keeps implying that by exercising his legal rights as a citizen that Scott was inherently guilty (and so smugly to boot). Also, the journalists and TV personalities saying that because he didn't act a certain way, he's up to something. It's such a no-win situation: submit to a poly/sign a warrant/appear on TV and potentially set yourself up, or refuse/ask to consult a lawyer and be viewed as guilty with something to hide. While I agree that a POI's behavior should be taken into account to an extent, it shouldn't blind you to the possibility that the person doesn't show emotions in the same way you expect, or that they're protecting themselves emotionally and aren't hiding anything from you. I think we've really damaged a person's ability to access their safeguards in the legal system and to process difficult situations in the spotlight of the media with this mindset.
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Post by budders on Aug 17, 2017 20:40:32 GMT -6
But just to reiterate, Scott Peterson was definitely a shitty person (for things that he actually DID do and were objectively proven) and totally did it.
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Post by budders on Aug 17, 2017 20:45:38 GMT -6
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 17, 2017 22:44:21 GMT -6
But just to reiterate, Scott Peterson was definitely a shitty person (for things that he actually DID do and were objectively proven) and totally did it. I am at the same place. I very much believe he did it and is not a good person, I also believe the way the police/media came at him at least to people outside of law enforcement came off as a possibly innocent person being persecuted. I do know the police know to look for things like how he referred to her in interviews as past tense and how behavior of suspects effects investigations. I also question whether they ever had enough evidence to arrest or convict him and if he would have served time had she not been pregnant because of how that made everyone involved view him.
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Post by cherrytomato on Aug 18, 2017 6:23:03 GMT -6
I haven't watched the show but still wanted to armchair detective and chime in. I always thought he drowned her in the pool. She was late in her pregnancy and found relief by swimming in their heated pool everyday. Drowning=no blood evidence. Couple that with him draining the pool amd it just seems so likely. I used to know a few Modesto PD officers and even though he was found guilty this case haunts them.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Aug 18, 2017 6:59:43 GMT -6
I am watching episode 1 now. I totally believe that he did it, and agree that there are no other suspects. BUT I do hate how the police officer keeps implying that by exercising his legal rights as a citizen that Scott was inherently guilty (and so smugly to boot). Also, the journalists and TV personalities saying that because he didn't act a certain way, he's up to something. It's such a no-win situation: submit to a poly/sign a warrant/appear on TV and potentially set yourself up, or refuse/ask to consult a lawyer and be viewed as guilty with something to hide. While I agree that a POI's behavior should be taken into account to an extent, it shouldn't blind you to the possibility that the person doesn't show emotions in the same way you expect, or that they're protecting themselves emotionally and aren't hiding anything from you. I think we've really damaged a person's ability to access their safeguards in the legal system and to process difficult situations in the spotlight of the media with this mindset. I agree so much with this. I mean Scott did it. But I'm sure there are innocent people that didn't "act" like they were innocent.
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Post by Ali7P on Aug 18, 2017 8:55:57 GMT -6
I haven't watched & I'm not sure I will (the only thing I seem to have time for lately is Teen Mom, and I haven't even finished this week's episode). I'll add that I remember her mom on TV saying her world changed with the words "Laci's missing" from Scott. It's just so odd that he'd call her parents, who she is close with and say that she's missing rather than ask if she was there.
If my husband went for a walk & never came back, I'd call his parents, friends, etc. and ask if he was with them. I don't think I'd jump to missing before checking with the people close to him/us. I think that's telling, that he knew she was missing and knew she was dead.
The whole thing is so tragic.
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 18, 2017 11:03:36 GMT -6
I haven't watched & I'm not sure I will (the only thing I seem to have time for lately is Teen Mom, and I haven't even finished this week's episode). I'll add that I remember her mom on TV saying her world changed with the words "Laci's missing" from Scott. It's just so odd that he'd call her parents, who she is close with and say that she's missing rather than ask if she was there. If my husband went for a walk & never came back, I'd call his parents, friends, etc. and ask if he was with them. I don't think I'd jump to missing before checking with the people close to him/us. I think that's telling, that he knew she was missing and knew she was dead. The whole thing is so tragic. I believe he came home from fishing, washed his clothes and took a shower assuming she was at her moms. Then he called and asked if Laci was there. This is what they said in the first episode, not that he said immediately she was missing, but her car was at home as was the dog.
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Post by budders on Aug 18, 2017 11:13:36 GMT -6
I haven't watched & I'm not sure I will (the only thing I seem to have time for lately is Teen Mom, and I haven't even finished this week's episode). I'll add that I remember her mom on TV saying her world changed with the words "Laci's missing" from Scott. It's just so odd that he'd call her parents, who she is close with and say that she's missing rather than ask if she was there. If my husband went for a walk & never came back, I'd call his parents, friends, etc. and ask if he was with them. I don't think I'd jump to missing before checking with the people close to him/us. I think that's telling, that he knew she was missing and knew she was dead. The whole thing is so tragic. I believe he came home from fishing, washed his clothes and took a shower assuming she was at her moms. Then he called and asked if Laci was there. This is what they said in the first episode, not that he said immediately she was missing, but her car was at home as was the dog. Yeah, they didn't really address the "Laci's missing" thing in the re-enactment on the show. I was reading Wikipedia last night though, and supposedly after he called her mom and she didn't know where she was, that's when he made the comment about her missing (like you said). I don't think the comment was mentioned in the show, the timeline just jumped to her dad calling 911.
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Post by Scarlet on Aug 18, 2017 15:07:01 GMT -6
For those who did not follow the case, eventually Scott dyed his hair and was going "to golf in San Diego." When he was arrested he did not have have golf clubs in his car, but did have the following including a water purifier and Mexican currency which you would need in Mexico and not San Diego. www.thoughtco.com/items-found-in-scott-petersons-car-972776He brought more shoes than underwear?
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 18, 2017 16:43:24 GMT -6
For those who did not follow the case, eventually Scott dyed his hair and was going "to golf in San Diego." When he was arrested he did not have have golf clubs in his car, but did have the following including a water purifier and Mexican currency which you would need in Mexico and not San Diego. www.thoughtco.com/items-found-in-scott-petersons-car-972776He brought more shoes than underwear? I had not noticed that. If I were fleeing the country I doubt I would bring flip flops, 2 pairs of casual slip on shoes, a pair of lace up shoes, lace up boots, hiking boots and two pairs of black dress shoes. WTF was he going to do with those dress shoes and the two ties?
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Post by pepper on Aug 18, 2017 17:49:30 GMT -6
He brought more shoes than underwear? I had not noticed that. Â If I were fleeing the country I doubt I would bring flip flops, 2 pairs of casual slip on shoes, a pair of lace up shoes, lace up boots, hiking boots and two pairs of black dress shoes. Â WTF was he going to do with those dress shoes and the two ties? Shoes are much harder and more expensive to replace than underwear was my fist thought.
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 18, 2017 17:56:44 GMT -6
I had not noticed that. If I were fleeing the country I doubt I would bring flip flops, 2 pairs of casual slip on shoes, a pair of lace up shoes, lace up boots, hiking boots and two pairs of black dress shoes. WTF was he going to do with those dress shoes and the two ties? Shoes are much harder and more expensive to replace than underwear was my fist thought. I can't figure the shoes out. He had around $15k on him and almost everything but the ties and extra shoes could be passed off as random camping equipment if questioned.
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Post by pepper on Aug 18, 2017 18:18:15 GMT -6
Shoes are much harder and more expensive to replace than underwear was my fist thought. I can't figure the shoes out. Â He had around $15k on him and almost everything but the ties and extra shoes could be passed off as random camping equipment if questioned. Fetish?
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Post by unicornofthesea on Aug 19, 2017 8:29:07 GMT -6
I didnt realize this is a series.
I've only seen the first episode and didnt really follow the case...
They said on the episode it was too cold that day to go golfing, so would she really have gone in the pool? I know someone mentioned it was heated, but still.
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Post by helloerrbody on Aug 19, 2017 11:48:25 GMT -6
I believe he came home from fishing, washed his clothes and took a shower assuming she was at her moms. Then he called and asked if Laci was there. This is what they said in the first episode, not that he said immediately she was missing, but her car was at home as was the dog. Yeah, they didn't really address the "Laci's missing" thing in the re-enactment on the show. I was reading Wikipedia last night though, and supposedly after he called her mom and she didn't know where she was, that's when he made the comment about her missing (like you said). I don't think the comment was mentioned in the show, the timeline just jumped to her dad calling 911. I actually don't think it's weird for him to think she's missing since the dog was outside with the leash on. That would immediately freak me out. I mean he's obviously guilty but I don't think it's a crazy leap to say she's missing when you know she walked the dog but the dog is still out with the leash attached.
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Post by auburn on Aug 19, 2017 14:06:59 GMT -6
I didnt realize this is a series. I've only seen the first episode and didnt really follow the case... They said on the episode it was too cold that day to go golfing, so would she really have gone in the pool? I know someone mentioned it was heated, but still. If I'm big pregnant, I'm probably a million degrees, and cold won't bother me that much, especially if the pool is heated and it's the only place I get relief from pregnancy pains.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Aug 19, 2017 14:23:24 GMT -6
Also, maybe he convinced her to take a swim so he could drown her.
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 19, 2017 15:17:40 GMT -6
Yeah, they didn't really address the "Laci's missing" thing in the re-enactment on the show. I was reading Wikipedia last night though, and supposedly after he called her mom and she didn't know where she was, that's when he made the comment about her missing (like you said). I don't think the comment was mentioned in the show, the timeline just jumped to her dad calling 911. I actually don't think it's weird for him to think she's missing since the dog was outside with the leash on. That would immediately freak me out. I mean he's obviously guilty but I don't think it's a crazy leap to say she's missing when you know she walked the dog but the dog is still out with the leash attached. I believe his first clue she was missing was when he killed her, but I see your point. The neighbor put the dog back in the yard and he learned it was out alone later.
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Post by leatherpants on Aug 19, 2017 20:04:39 GMT -6
Lol Jesslfar. It's a dead giveaway every time.
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Post by Jesslfar on Aug 22, 2017 22:35:37 GMT -6
New episode is up as of last night. I am watching now.
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Post by ArielMermaid on Aug 23, 2017 6:36:26 GMT -6
Did Scott think Amber was an idiot or Amish? How could she not know exactly who he is and what is happening at this point. To keep up the "I'm traveling Europe" story. Yikes. He was at her candlelight vigil when he called Amber. Good lord.
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Post by Hotcoconuts82 on Aug 23, 2017 18:47:17 GMT -6
Did Scott think Amber was an idiot or Amish? How could she not know exactly who he is and what is happening at this point. To keep up the "I'm traveling Europe" story. Yikes. He was at her candlelight vigil when he called Amber. Good lord. Yeah. He's clearly not right in the head.
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Post by shan-ah-doo on Aug 26, 2017 22:22:08 GMT -6
I'm caught up mostly. I found it interesting that the detectives noticed how obsessive Scott was while they were in his home. Making sure their drinks were on coasters and putting gloves on to wipe down the cars because one of the detectives hit one car with the door of the other. That tells me that he's more than capable of cleaning up a crime scene thoroughly.
Also listening to him blatantly lie on the phone calls with Frye with such ease tells me he's a sociopath.
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Post by shan-ah-doo on Aug 26, 2017 22:23:12 GMT -6
Did Scott think Amber was an idiot or Amish? How could she not know exactly who he is and what is happening at this point. To keep up the "I'm traveling Europe" story. Yikes. He was at her candlelight vigil when he called Amber. Good lord. He's a true narcissist.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Aug 27, 2017 5:42:53 GMT -6
I'm caught up mostly. I found it interesting that the detectives noticed how obsessive Scott was while they were in his home. Making sure their drinks were on coasters and putting gloves on to wipe down the cars because one of the detectives hit one car with the door of the other. That tells me that he's more than capable of cleaning up a crime scene thoroughly. Also listening to him blatantly lie on the phone calls with Frye with such ease tells me he's a sociopath. This also made me think he gets angry about little things like that.. maybe what caused him to snap.
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Post by unicornofthesea on Aug 27, 2017 6:06:19 GMT -6
I just read more details about the case and the findings of the bodies. I didn't really follow the case at the time, but holy shit it's sickening 😢 And as messed up as it sounds I can't really see anyone else murdering a pregnant woman besides the husband/dad.
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