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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:31:35 GMT -6
But the no pictures is part of the problem. TMZ is still big. If they can get Kobe crash pictures they can get other ones but they don’t. Sure. But who in the Chris Brown/Rihanna level of fame did they not try to get pics for? TMZ is grimy. If they can get it, they would. Let's not play dumb. TMZ didn't go after those pics. Those pics were leaked to take down Chris Brown. We don't talk about Jay z fucking Rihanna when she was a teen. We don't talk about Rihanna's old Twitter attacks. We don't talk about Rihanna tell Bey, "I fucked your Hsu and so boom." The rice cake comments? None of it. Now Jayz is some God and Rihanna can do no wrong and that's cool. Leave Chris alone and let him work. You choose not to support then don't?
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:32:28 GMT -6
But we have had incidents since that don’t get that coverage right? I’m for sure saying yes to the double standard that is shittyAF and he can talk about it, but he still did the crime Also I will say again it was white women who canceled him. That’s the part I have the issue with because they don’t cancel the white men. Not that they cancel him at all because I get that part I’m not trying to speak for other groups, but I don’t think white women are the only people who have a problem with Chris Brown. stick to yt women then
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:35:27 GMT -6
Fine take away the canceling I think it’s ok to just say that celebrities of color are held to a different standard which is what he was saying that I agree with I totally agree with that. But Chris Brown isn’t the guy to be used in that example. He didn’t just have a fight with Rihanna, he’s had multiple fights, he broke the windows at GMA, just a general history of acting out. Celebs of colors are totally held to a different standard but it’s not some mystery to me why people don’t like Chris. He wasn't used as an example. He was commented on directly and he chose to respond directly. It's his right. Like yt men ain't never broke a window, lol. Some here have had their dads, husbands, and family do more than Chris and they still break bread with him. That's cool. Just don't forget about it. Lol
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:37:47 GMT -6
Again I’ll bring up Nick Carter. He has had multiple rape allegations with violence one quite recently where the woman had special needs. He is still performing at his Vegas residency like nothing happened. I’ll give you Chris isn’t who should be the spokesperson but he isn’t wrong and that’s all I’m saying Again Chris was also responding so if you don't want to hear his thoughts on the matter, don't publicly come at him about it. 🤷🏻♀️ It's rich that the woman who spoke on him saying and then black women do this and that just gave an interview about letting B2K run a train on her. Make that make sense?
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:42:06 GMT -6
Yeah I’m definitely not trying to argue that black men aren’t treated more harshly when it comes to crimes. But I can’t think of Chris without picturing those pictures of Rihanna and he’s got no one to blame but himself there. I do believe that had it been an A list white celebrity couple, those pics would have been everywhere too, as far as tabloids go. Again, I do realize that race plays a huge role in arrests, sentencing, etc. Eta: and I don’t want to downplay that. It just strikes me a certain way coming from him of all people. I thought there was a pattern. Wasn’t his “did you hear about Chris Brown” moment because he was holding a date hostage at gunpoint? I apologize in advance if I’ve got that wrong. Yeah I don't think you're correct in that at all. Maybe it's you not verifying information before speaking on it or the media not retracting what they put out or both.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:43:53 GMT -6
Yeah I’m definitely not trying to argue that black men aren’t treated more harshly when it comes to crimes. But I can’t think of Chris without picturing those pictures of Rihanna and he’s got no one to blame but himself there. I do believe that had it been an A list white celebrity couple, those pics would have been everywhere too, as far as tabloids go. Again, I do realize that race plays a huge role in arrests, sentencing, etc. Yeah and I’m saying there have been reports of many violent episodes with white men where we don’t see pictures, but it’s fine I get it. Like who really wants to read white women sitting around contemplating the double standards or not of a system that benefits them and theirs directly? Lol. Like of course they don't know, don't see, lol.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:48:16 GMT -6
I think my issue is that to me it is both but I would love 1 time for it to be yes racism is shit and exist and not a well yeah, BUT he isn’t the one to say it or I can’t listen to him because. I know that everyone here is in agreement that racism is still very prevalent in both the justice system and society so again im not saying anyone here is saying otherwise it’s just my thing But it isn’t as cut and dry as that - yes there is racism at play BUT if Chris Brown is the one talking about it people will undoubtedly bring up his past. You can’t simply ignore it because he is making a point. And his situation did get more attention because of Rihanna and her star power. He only spoke to it because his past was brought up. So he said, I was 17. I paid for my mistakes. It's been almost 15 years. Y'all leave the yt men alone that have been convicted of DV and he posted them. He didn't bring anything up. They brought him up. By name, online. So he responded. Leave me alone like y'all leave them yt men alone (not direct quote. Broad paraphrasing.)
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:50:31 GMT -6
angelashly I get you, and I agree completely. I think this entire conversation is too simplified by focusing on the minutiae of the Chris Brown situation when it is a byproduct of a systemic issue within both society and celebrity news/gossip/etc itself. Yes. The Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard trials are another example with regard to celebrity/popularity and misogyny. That whole mess would make a good case study in the court of public opinion. It checks a ton of boxes: white, popularity, abuse photos, biases, pap walks and tabloids. Her photos were proven to be edited in two different courts. People did believe her right away. She only released anything after her extortion demands were ignored. She leaked everything to tabloids. She set up her own pap walk. Just not the same as the Rihanna thing.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:52:34 GMT -6
I think it’s fair to say Chris Brown isn’t the best person to be leading the discussion for a multitude of reasons. He didn't lead anything. He was called out by a B list celebrity. He responded. Y'all seem to only know about his response and not why he even spoke on this topic. (in case anyone wanted the full context). He didn't just wake up and say woe is me on this day. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:55:06 GMT -6
I think it’s fair to say Chris Brown isn’t the best person to be leading the discussion for a multitude of reasons. Yes and I’m pissed on Rihanna’s behalf that he’s making it about himself. She is the victim. He is not making it about him. Someone came at him. Period. He responded to that. He did not say he did nothing wrong. He didn't speak on Rihanna. She has said he's a victim too. He was broken too. He was damaged too. She's not pissed. She spoke for him, defended him over the years, went to court for him, worked with him. Just saying, you pissed and she's not.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 1:58:54 GMT -6
Yes and I’m pissed on Rihanna’s behalf that he’s making it about himself. She is the victim. Yeah what I keep coming back to is it feels abusive in itself to bring this up. And why? Because she just performed at the SB? She's having kids and happy? Because he didn't ruin her? Actually if anyone in this thread would Be cared to report or speak on this correctly it would have been clear that he did not bring this up. Another former back in the day artist took to social media upset that Chloe Bailey did a trailer for a song she did with Chris Brown. She was mad. She spoke on him. She brought up Rihanna. So no, it had nothing to do with her SB performance or her having children and going forward in her life. He did not in fact bring her or it up. Someone else did.
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Post by McBenny on Mar 2, 2023 2:01:40 GMT -6
Why not also discuss Stassi's past dumb ass comments on race and all the isms and phobias she has displayed.
That's all I see when I look at her. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 2, 2023 7:02:21 GMT -6
First off I will own the Stassi thing. I shouldn't have posted her or forgotten her past. I apologize for that 😔
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Post by icedcoffee on Mar 2, 2023 7:03:16 GMT -6
I have to come back to the Chris Brown discussion, I'm running late for appointments and don't have time to sufficiently read and respond. Just didn't want to see like I was ignoring
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Post by xtine22 on Mar 2, 2023 9:06:56 GMT -6
On another note I just saw it's Justin Biebers birthday today. And my only thought was he's only 29?? I guess cuz he was so young when he got famous he seems much older lol I was also shocked as well.
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Post by xtine22 on Mar 2, 2023 9:06:56 GMT -6
On another note I just saw it's Justin Biebers birthday today. And my only thought was he's only 29?? I guess cuz he was so young when he got famous he seems much older lol I was also shocked as well.
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Post by bazi on Mar 2, 2023 10:29:52 GMT -6
On another note I just saw it's Justin Biebers birthday today. And my only thought was he's only 29?? I guess cuz he was so young when he got famous he seems much older lol I was also shocked as well. He somehow seems simultaneously both way older and younger. Like he should be 22, or 40.
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Post by Cher on Mar 2, 2023 10:36:19 GMT -6
March Blinds are up.
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