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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 14:52:03 GMT -6
I feel like I've actually heard of people doing this TW . . . . . Omg editing galore {Spoiler} we do it in the nicu when a baby has passed if they have enough hair to cut some off. See now this I can see so maybe I am wrong
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 14:52:40 GMT -6
So so sad. And I’m assuming it was drinking and driving right It's not clear but it sounds like it. He was the passenger and they were only going twenty miles an hour when they slammed into a tree. This is a picture of Henners. I feel like he implied it with them coming from a party but I didn’t want to assume
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Post by thatgolfb on Jan 20, 2023 14:52:42 GMT -6
I’m an effort to move on the boys each getting some of their mom’s hair after she passed was a lot right? Yes.
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Post by addymac on Jan 20, 2023 15:00:15 GMT -6
But yeah I was totally horrified to read that. (About the hair). I mean, I get that it happens but ugh.
My heart broke a million times over for Harry. So much trauma around Diana’s death and I am just flabbergasted that they didn’t give the kids any sort of therapy or help. Like were they TRYING to fuck them up?! Honestly.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 15:02:22 GMT -6
I also had to laugh when Harry was talking about the nursery and Balmoral and how Will had the bigger room etc. Harry you are in a literal castle stahp
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 15:03:07 GMT -6
But at the same time what a typical kid thing to notice
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 20, 2023 15:04:39 GMT -6
I’m an effort to move on the boys each getting some of their mom’s hair after she passed was a lot right? Yes. Victorian Era it was common to use the hair of deceased loves ones to make art, jewelry, and momentos but thank goodness we've moved in from that
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Post by icedcoffee on Jan 20, 2023 15:07:12 GMT -6
TW . . . . . Omg editing galore {Spoiler} we do it in the nicu when a baby has passed if they have enough hair to cut some off. See now this I can see so maybe I am wrong It feels different somehow but I don't think there's any right or wrong answer
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 15:09:16 GMT -6
See now this I can see so maybe I am wrong It feels different somehow but I don't think there's any right or wrong answer We all have our things
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Post by tinyjoys on Jan 20, 2023 15:14:50 GMT -6
It's not clear but it sounds like it. He was the passenger and they were only going twenty miles an hour when they slammed into a tree. This is a picture of Henners. I feel like he implied it with them coming from a party but I didn’t want to assume Yes, they were going just down the road to get a cd, I think. And then him being on the phone with Henners’s brother while he got mugged? My gosh.
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Post by sifl on Jan 20, 2023 15:15:05 GMT -6
The hair thing is weird to me but if it brings someone comfort, that’s fine.
I just listened to a couple chapters about therapy, and retrieving some of his memories of his mom. One was the 3 of them being chased by paps in the car, Diana stops and ask them to leave them alone, then just cried in the car while they kept taking photos. ☹️ Then another shooting water balloons at some paps while they were on vacation and Diana laughing and laughing. 😭 I’m glad he was able to get some of his memories back of her.
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Post by addymac on Jan 20, 2023 15:29:36 GMT -6
I feel conflicted when I read about how Diana acted in front of the kids with the paps. Would it have been better if she just said ok and ignore and go about it with them? Her hatred and anger and crying in front of the kids obviously factored into their hatred of the press even before her death.
Like as a parent, maybe not letting them see you sobbing and lashing out at the press would have been better for the kids? Less traumatizing? Like, she signed up for this when she married Chuck. Idk. I know it was another level of press following but I feel like …. She did the kids more of a disservice by lashing out so much that that is one of Harry’s few memories.
Maybe. Maybe not. Idk.
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Post by beatch on Jan 20, 2023 15:39:55 GMT -6
I will say that Harry is still a child. I was pissed he used all of the gas in Meghan’s room while she was delivering Archie. I have found him both self-aware and unaware at the same time. He comes off as a real dolt during various parts of the book.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 15:41:10 GMT -6
I will say that Harry is still a child. I was pissed he used all of the gas in Meghan’s room while she was delivering Archie. I have found him both self-aware and unaware at the same time. He comes off as a real dolt during various parts of the book. Very much so
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 15:43:38 GMT -6
I feel conflicted when I read about how Diana acted in front of the kids with the paps. Would it have been better if she just said ok and ignore and go about it with them? Her hatred and anger and crying in front of the kids obviously factored into their hatred of the press even before her death. Like as a parent, maybe not letting them see you sobbing and lashing out at the press would have been better for the kids? Less traumatizing? Like, she signed up for this when she married Chuck. Idk. I know it was another level of press following but I feel like …. She did the kids more of a disservice by lashing out so much that that is one of Harry’s few memories. Maybe. Maybe not. Idk. I don’t know even if she didn’t I for sure think being chased would have done it. I think sometimes showing emotion is ok. And yes she signed up for it but her kids didn’t. And they were literally chasing her and the kids and Harry could see that. They knew.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 15:44:17 GMT -6
But also how sad was it when Harry saw the pictures and that was when he found out the paps chased her and were taking pictures instead of helping
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Post by beatch on Jan 20, 2023 15:47:51 GMT -6
The courtiers all seem like trash. They purposefully made things difficult for Harry and Meghan.
Charles and Camilla don't come off well either.
It's too bad Will and Kate couldn't let them in more. Their issue seems to be that Meghan wasn't deferring to them and outwardly recognizing them as the future king and queen. She wanted to be a sister-in-law.
What a shitstorm for Meghan, I hope they are truly as in love as they represent because what a nightmarish several years.
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Post by imapenguin on Jan 20, 2023 15:56:25 GMT -6
But yeah I was totally horrified to read that. (About the hair). I mean, I get that it happens but ugh. My heart broke a million times over for Harry. So much trauma around Diana’s death and I am just flabbergasted that they didn’t give the kids any sort of therapy or help. Like were they TRYING to fuck them up?! Honestly. I honestly think every person in that world is so self centered that it didn’t even occur to them that children losing their mother might be life changing. From their point of view she was only partially involved and none of their moms were that involved so potato potato or something. One less headache for Charles, etc. They’re all just fucked.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 16:10:38 GMT -6
The courtiers all seem like trash. They purposefully made things difficult for Harry and Meghan. Charles and Camilla don't come off well either. It's too bad Will and Kate couldn't let them in more. Their issue seems to be that Meghan wasn't deferring to them and outwardly recognizing them as the future king and queen. She wanted to be a sister-in-law. What a shitstorm for Meghan, I hope they are truly as in love as they represent because what a nightmarish several years. Yes! Harry for sure wanted that family relationship and seemed that way his whole life. The fact that they liked Chelsy leads me to believe they hung out as couples at some point enough for them to get to know her. I know she was also part of the circle so maybe that’s it. Anyway they clearly wanted a relationship that didn’t happen and that’s sad. Especially since they seem to have that relationship with Eugenie and Jack.
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Post by sifl on Jan 20, 2023 16:28:15 GMT -6
I feel conflicted when I read about how Diana acted in front of the kids with the paps. Would it have been better if she just said ok and ignore and go about it with them? Her hatred and anger and crying in front of the kids obviously factored into their hatred of the press even before her death. Like as a parent, maybe not letting them see you sobbing and lashing out at the press would have been better for the kids? Less traumatizing? Like, she signed up for this when she married Chuck. Idk. I know it was another level of press following but I feel like …. She did the kids more of a disservice by lashing out so much that that is one of Harry’s few memories. Maybe. Maybe not. Idk. Yeah, I mean that was clearly upsetting to them. I think H also talked in the doc about how she “stood up for them” on a ski trip and paps were there, so I don’t think it was all negative. Also, I’m not so sure she knew this pap storm was coming when she got married. Her experience with them was pretty extreme. And after the divorce the palace didn’t protect her from them at all, she was completely on her own except for a couple of body guards.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 20, 2023 16:46:10 GMT -6
But also how sad was it when Harry saw the pictures and that was when he found out the paps chased her and were taking pictures instead of helping Him realizing a flashbulb was likely the last thing she saw. 😢😡
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 20, 2023 16:49:48 GMT -6
On the one ski trip where Bea and Eug were also there, it seemed as if Diana (and I don’t know if Fergie was there) and she allowed the press to get some photos, but when they weren’t satisfied with a few (and how many do you need, paps?) and kept pestering them, wanting more, that’s when she got pissed off.
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Post by STP on Jan 20, 2023 17:33:06 GMT -6
I thought of you all as I was just chatting with a college friend about H (eta H as in my Husband, not Harry) and a lead at her company. I've mentioned before that I went to college w/ M (same year, same class, had classes together, we did not know each other). I forgot they were friendly and in productions/studios together.
They're still FB friends and stuff (M has private social media under a total alias and all that) and I asked if she's reading the book.
She said no, but that they're just a lovely couple in every way. She's never met him, but that she truly knows them to be deeply in love and incredible w/ one another.
So that was very nice to hear. And I do think it says something about her that she's stayed in even that kind of contact with people she graduated with over 20 years ago.
eta actually I think she was maybe a couple years behind me, my friend was in my class. We had a j school class together, and an IR general that all three of us were in so that's how I remember.
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Post by addymac on Jan 20, 2023 17:44:45 GMT -6
On the one ski trip where Bea and Eug were also there, it seemed as if Diana (and I don’t know if Fergie was there) and she allowed the press to get some photos, but when they weren’t satisfied with a few (and how many do you need, paps?) and kept pestering them, wanting more, that’s when she got pissed off. Yeah. I think the documentary showed clips of it, and it reminded me of when H talked about going skiing with his dad and the guilt he felt. Poor kid. Like what if mummy finds out I’m having fun with dad skiing, etc. Except mummy is dead. But like he didn’t actually believe she was dead for a long ass time. Or half believed half denial. Poor kids. And yeah, I know the press went next level with her post divorce. I still can’t wrap how the firm decided, after what happened w D to stop security for H&M&co. Like what on earth is wrong with these people.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 20, 2023 19:16:17 GMT -6
I thought of you all as I was just chatting with a college friend about H (eta H as in my Husband, not Harry) and a lead at her company. I've mentioned before that I went to college w/ M (same year, same class, had classes together, we did not know each other). I forgot they were friendly and in productions/studios together. They're still FB friends and stuff (M has private social media under a total alias and all that) and I asked if she's reading the book. She said no, but that they're just a lovely couple in every way. She's never met him, but that she truly knows them to be deeply in love and incredible w/ one another. So that was very nice to hear. And I do think it says something about her that she's stayed in even that kind of contact with people she graduated with over 20 years ago. eta actually I think she was maybe a couple years behind me, my friend was in my class. We had a j school class together, and an IR general that all three of us were in so that's how I remember. I love this Most people who aren’t making money off stories all talk like this so I’m choosing to believe it
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Post by sifl on Jan 20, 2023 19:42:45 GMT -6
I know I’m a little behind most of you but I just got to the Airing of Grievances Tea and I’m just fully befuddled. All the grievances just seem so minor and petty. Even the baby brain comment, even W&K moving their name cards. Idk I’m not breezy about a lot of things but I just can’t wrap my head around these being such a big thing a whole tea had to be arranged and Will getting so hyped over it. Oh and Beardgate too! Just all so OTT.
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Post by claudia on Jan 20, 2023 20:18:15 GMT -6
I know I’m a little behind most of you but I just got to the Airing of Grievances Tea and I’m just fully befuddled. All the grievances just seem so minor and petty. Even the baby brain comment, even W&K moving their name cards. Idk I’m not breezy about a lot of things but I just can’t wrap my head around these being such a big thing a whole tea had to be arranged and Will getting so hyped over it. Oh and Beardgate too! Just all so OTT. That’s where it goes back to, for me, four adults who are all spoiled to different degrees and used to getting their own way.
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Post by sifl on Jan 20, 2023 20:34:46 GMT -6
I know I’m a little behind most of you but I just got to the Airing of Grievances Tea and I’m just fully befuddled. All the grievances just seem so minor and petty. Even the baby brain comment, even W&K moving their name cards. Idk I’m not breezy about a lot of things but I just can’t wrap my head around these being such a big thing a whole tea had to be arranged and Will getting so hyped over it. Oh and Beardgate too! Just all so OTT. That’s where it goes back to, for me, four adults who are all spoiled to different degrees and used to getting their own way. Definitely.
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Post by armpants on Jan 20, 2023 21:41:44 GMT -6
I’m an effort to move on the boys each getting some of their mom’s hair after she passed was a lot right? Yes. And them basically being shipped off to boarding schools what seemed like five seconds later was something. Not that Charles was equipped to handle their grief. If only there were trained professionals to help people through things like that! Freaking BRF and their ignoring when anyone needs help.
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Post by addymac on Jan 20, 2023 22:24:41 GMT -6
But also- why didn’t his school say hey here’s someone to talk to, kid? Like a school counselor or something? His “mothers” whatever weird ladies that bathed them- did they give him extra love and care or ? Just poor kid, surrounded by people and friends(!) who didn’t do jackshit for him. Like how he said Henners was the only friend who ever mentioned his mom after her death.
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