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Post by STP on Jan 18, 2023 13:21:03 GMT -6
I wonder if Eugenie had always told her grandma she loved the emerald tiara or something, so Liz wanted to keep that special for her. They were close. It makes sense to me that there was a grandmotherly thing of having known that for longer than we would have, and maybe she just didn't clue M in on it bc well emotional communication issues.
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Post by sifl on Jan 18, 2023 13:21:33 GMT -6
Hmm, I didn’t get “I’m so poor” vibes so much as “I’m the lowest in the hierarchy” which is obviously still obnoxious.
I am loving all the detail he’s put in. It’s like a little glimpse into the royal life that we usually don’t see. It’s not making me like Harry any more, or less really. It’s just interesting to me.
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Post by STP on Jan 18, 2023 13:22:17 GMT -6
Look at me making up a fun scenario I have no way of knowing about, lol.
I'll stick with I loved the one M wore, it was modern looking and gorgeous. It really complimented her dress and her.
I was a huge fan of her entire wedding look.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:25:17 GMT -6
Look at me making up a fun scenario I have no way of knowing about, lol. I'll stick with I loved the one M wore, it was modern looking and gorgeous. It really complimented her dress and her. I was a huge fan of her entire wedding look. Harry talks about this too and how much they loved the one she wore so I think the emerald tiara thing was not actually a thing but a Camilla thing to pit Meghan against Eugenie or The Queen |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:25:31 GMT -6
I wonder if Eugenie had always told her grandma she loved the emerald tiara or something, so Liz wanted to keep that special for her. They were close. It makes sense to me that there was a grandmotherly thing of having known that for longer than we would have, and maybe she just didn't clue M in on it bc well emotional communication issues. But I also can see this |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:26:23 GMT -6
I love the tiara M wore, and always thought the Queen did her an unintentional solid by insisting on that one. It’s so pretty |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:29:30 GMT -6
I wonder if Eugenie had always told her grandma she loved the emerald tiara or something, so Liz wanted to keep that special for her. They were close. It makes sense to me that there was a grandmotherly thing of having known that for longer than we would have, and maybe she just didn't clue M in on it bc well emotional communication issues. It sounds like M was offered an emerald tiara though, along with an aquamarine, Mary's Bandau, and 2 others. Harold claimed there was no fighting or demands for tiaras in an interview somewhere It seems silly QEII would have offered emeralds at all if that was going to be Eugenie's thing (which I see no problem with), or maybe she was secretly a huge drama queen and manufactured all the drama herself, or Chuck or Cam (or Willy) completely made up the story |
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Post by STP on Jan 18, 2023 13:30:38 GMT -6
I wonder if Eugenie had always told her grandma she loved the emerald tiara or something, so Liz wanted to keep that special for her. They were close. It makes sense to me that there was a grandmotherly thing of having known that for longer than we would have, and maybe she just didn't clue M in on it bc well emotional communication issues. It sounds like M was offered an emerald tiara though, along with an aquamarine, Mary's Bandau, and 2 others. Harold claimed there was no fighting or demands for tiaras in an interview somewhere It seems silly QEII would have offered emeralds at all if that was going to be Eugenie's thing (which I see no problem with), or maybe she was secretly a huge drama queen and manufactured all the drama herself, or Chuck or Cam (or Willy) completely made up the story Sure. I wasn't there, I'm certainly not going to argue. Why I should stick to my own policy of let's not invent shit we don't know about. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:31:34 GMT -6
Oh and I know we should move the book talk but Harry does talk about Meghan losing weight before the wedding due to stress
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:32:11 GMT -6
It sounds like M was offered an emerald tiara though, along with an aquamarine, Mary's Bandau, and 2 others. Harold claimed there was no fighting or demands for tiaras in an interview somewhere It seems silly QEII would have offered emeralds at all if that was going to be Eugenie's thing (which I see no problem with), or maybe she was secretly a huge drama queen and manufactured all the drama herself, or Chuck or Cam (or Willy) completely made up the story Sure. I wasn't there, I'm certainly not going to argue. Why I should stick to my own policy of let's not invent shit we don't know about. I love your theory and can see The Queen keeping the one Eugenie liked out of the mix |
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Post by teraiin on Jan 18, 2023 13:33:50 GMT -6
Look at me making up a fun scenario I have no way of knowing about, lol. I'll stick with I loved the one M wore, it was modern looking and gorgeous. It really complimented her dress and her. I was a huge fan of her entire wedding look. I definitely think the tiara she wore fit the vibe well! |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:34:00 GMT -6
I'm struggling to find an Aquamarine tiara that hasn't been worn by anyone else recently. The Queen Mum wore this Cartier one, but it was returned to Cartier's collection  This one was previously owned by the Duchess of Kent and sold in 2014 at auction  |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:36:45 GMT -6
Sure. I wasn't there, I'm certainly not going to argue. Why I should stick to my own policy of let's not invent shit we don't know about. I love your theory and can see The Queen keeping the one Eugenie liked out of the mix I for sure don't think Eugenie's was part of the mix, but it's hardly the only Emerald Tiara in the BRF collection. A different Emerald one could have been offered and then the drama made up later to deflect from something else |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:36:46 GMT -6
Look at me making up a fun scenario I have no way of knowing about, lol. I'll stick with I loved the one M wore, it was modern looking and gorgeous. It really complimented her dress and her. I was a huge fan of her entire wedding look. I definitely think the tiara she wore fit the vibe well! They actually worked her dress around the tiara! |
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Post by pitchslap on Jan 18, 2023 13:41:54 GMT -6
I'm struggling to find an Aquamarine tiara that hasn't been worn by anyone else recently. The Queen Mum wore this Cartier one, but it was returned to Cartier's collection This one was previously owned by the Duchess of Kent and sold in 2014 at auction The top one looks like it belongs on a fancy minecraft character. I like the bottom one but am afraid it would look too cutesy on most heads. |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:42:36 GMT -6
I definitely think the tiara she wore fit the vibe well! They actually worked her dress around the tiara! That tiktok I posted claimed her dress was being worked around the Spencer Tiara (Diana's sisters offered early on), adding scalloped edges to the veil, and Liz didn't offer any tiaras until a few weeks before the wedding  Mary's Bandeau looked great, but I thought she might wear the Spencer Tiara  |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 13:45:19 GMT -6
They actually worked her dress around the tiara! That tiktok I posted claimed her dress was being worked around the Spencer Tiara (Diana's sisters offered early on), adding scalloped edges to the veil, and Liz didn't offer any tiaras until a few weeks before the wedding Mary's Bandeau looked great, but I thought she might wear the Spencer Tiara Harry mentions that she was offered the spencer tiara but then The Queen offered up hers and so Meghan had the dress reworked. He doesn’t mention a timeline except for when talking about how The Queen said to work with Meghan’s hairdresser early to get the feel for it because it’s so hard to work sometimes and the handler didn’t give it to them in time to do that which again I feel may account for the “messy” hairstyle |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:45:46 GMT -6
Could she have been offered Queen Mary's Diamond Lozenge Tiara? Last seen on Princess Margaret, it has removable Pearls  |
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Post by Sundae on Jan 18, 2023 13:49:16 GMT -6
If one was allegedly "all emerald" was it Victoria's Emerald Tiara?  It looks like this one didn't belong to the Queen, so it probably was the one Eugenie ended up wearing. This one is owned by the Duke of Fife? orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2018/04/tiara-thursday-queen-victorias-emerald.htmlThis is a great site to fall down the rabbit hole, too, btw. I'm guessing one of the other offered tiaras was this one:  |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 18, 2023 13:50:17 GMT -6
Eugenie's tiara is my absolute favorite.  Meghan's is my second favorite.  ETA: Pictures, because why not? And both suited their wearers to perfection. |
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Post by joy on Jan 18, 2023 13:52:54 GMT -6
The only tiara I like so far in here is the Spencer one.
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Post by Sundae on Jan 18, 2023 13:53:45 GMT -6
The queen had this aquamarine: %20by%20Garrard%20for%20Queen%20Elizabeth%20II%20of%20the%20United%20Kingdom%201.jpg) Creation: The original tiara was made in 1957 by Garrard to match the aquamarine jewelry given to Queen Elizabeth II from the President and People of Brazil on the occasion of her 1953 coronation. In 1971, the tiara was heavily altered to include four scroll ornaments taken from a piece of jewelry given to Queen Elizabeth II by the Governor of Sao Paulo in 1968 and the large central aquamarine from the Brazilian necklace given in 1953.  |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:56:42 GMT -6
There were rumors before the wedding Meghan might have been offered The Queen Mum's Cartier Bandeau also, which were bracelets she sometimes wore as a tiara  Liz has worn some of the bracelets  |
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Post by joy on Jan 18, 2023 13:56:54 GMT -6
That aquamarine one is hideous. Sorry.
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Post by Sundae on Jan 18, 2023 13:58:27 GMT -6
That aquamarine one is hideous. Sorry. It looks like Elsa cosplay. |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 13:59:36 GMT -6
If one was allegedly "all emerald" was it Victoria's Emerald Tiara? It looks like this one didn't belong to the Queen, so it probably was the one Eugenie ended up wearing. This one is owned by the Duke of Fife? orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2018/04/tiara-thursday-queen-victorias-emerald.htmlThis is a great site to fall down the rabbit hole, too, btw. I'm guessing one of the other offered tiaras was this one: I forgot about the ownership between ally copy and pasting, but I also wonder how much of that is fluid. Lots of jewels have changed hands, been missing for years, believed to be auctioned, etc, and them turned up somewhere unexpected |
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Post by Sundae on Jan 18, 2023 13:59:49 GMT -6
I just don't see what about the emerald one Eugenie is wearing (which is also one of my favorites) would have required a special braid or anything to keep it on or upright? That's what's throwing me.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 18, 2023 14:00:51 GMT -6
I just don't see what about the emerald one Eugenie is wearing (which is also one of my favorites) would have required a special braid or anything to keep it on or upright? That's what's throwing me. Maybe the heaviness? |
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Post by pitchslap on Jan 18, 2023 14:03:03 GMT -6
If one was allegedly "all emerald" was it Victoria's Emerald Tiara? It looks like this one didn't belong to the Queen, so it probably was the one Eugenie ended up wearing. This one is owned by the Duke of Fife? orderofsplendor.blogspot.com/2018/04/tiara-thursday-queen-victorias-emerald.htmlThis is a great site to fall down the rabbit hole, too, btw. I'm guessing one of the other offered tiaras was this one: Can you imagine if Meghan wore one with red?? There'd be so many devil references. It's the first thing that came to my mind and I like her! |
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Post by mrsweasley on Jan 18, 2023 14:04:35 GMT -6
I just don't see what about the emerald one Eugenie is wearing (which is also one of my favorites) would have required a special braid or anything to keep it on or upright? That's what's throwing me. I wonder if it's slippery or you need to secure it just right. I imagine you can't just plop it on your head and expect it not to move %20by%20Boucheron%20for%20Margaret%20Greville%202.jpg) |
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