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Post by miawallace on Jan 11, 2023 13:21:25 GMT -6
I feel like the lipgloss situation is a thing because I think both women eat crackers for each other and made that whole thing a petty thing.
I’d be skeeved about sharing makeup of any kind so I get kate and feeling weird about sharing it. If I were her, I would personally be like just keep it. But I think there’s cracker eater situation among both women.
Kate could easily been like keep it girl, I’ll send one of my assistants on a wild goose hunt to get me a replacement. Like no big deal and shit easily fixable. that lipstick isn’t the issue. I bet it’s not a one of a kind and affordable. I think they just don’t like each other and being petty. Which is fine. But I don’t think it’s cultural.
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Post by Sweetjane on Jan 11, 2023 13:22:27 GMT -6
Even with the lipgloss thing, Harry admitted it was a culture clash that made Kate uncomfortable, but didn’t call her a bitch or anything. Kate sounds like she needs to unclench.
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Post by Sweetjane on Jan 11, 2023 13:23:20 GMT -6
I feel like the lipgloss situation is a thing because I think both women eat crackers for each other and made that whole thing a petty thing. I’d be skeeved about sharing makeup of any kind so I get kate and feeling weird about sharing it. If I were her, I would personally be like just keep it. But I think there’s cracker eater situation among both women. Kate could easily been like keep it girl, I’ll send one of my assistants on a wild goose hunt to get me a replacement. Like no big deal and shit easily fixable. that lipstick isn’t the issue. I bet it’s not a one of a kind and affordable. I think they just don’t like each other and being petty. Which is fine. But I don’t think it’s cultural. This is exactly my thinking but I was too lazy to type out.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2023 13:23:56 GMT -6
I feel like the lipgloss situation is a thing because I think both women eat crackers for each other and made that whole thing a petty thing. I’d be skeeved about sharing makeup of any kind so I get kate and feeling weird about sharing it. If I were her, I would personally be like just keep it. But I think there’s cracker eater situation among both women. Kate could easily been like keep it girl, I’ll send one of my assistants on a wild goose hunt to get me a replacement. Like no big deal and shit easily fixable. that lipstick isn’t the issue. I bet it’s not a one of a kind and affordable. I think they just don’t like each other and being petty. Which is fine. But I don’t think it’s cultural. I do wonder how much of them didn’t like each other or did they but the brothers were the issue that got between them. When they were together they seemed to get a long (yes I’m aware we weren’t there) well enough.
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Post by Sweetjane on Jan 11, 2023 13:24:47 GMT -6
My hold came up last night. I'm 15% in on the audio so far this morning. I'm really enjoying his narration. I was not going to do it but have a long flight tomorrow. Worth it?
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Post by Eagles on Jan 11, 2023 13:27:18 GMT -6
I feel like the lipgloss situation is a thing because I think both women eat crackers for each other and made that whole thing a petty thing. I’d be skeeved about sharing makeup of any kind so I get kate and feeling weird about sharing it. If I were her, I would personally be like just keep it. But I think there’s cracker eater situation among both women. Kate could easily been like keep it girl, I’ll send one of my assistants on a wild goose hunt to get me a replacement. Like no big deal and shit easily fixable. that lipstick isn’t the issue. I bet it’s not a one of a kind and affordable. I think they just don’t like each other and being petty. Which is fine. But I don’t think it’s cultural. I do wonder how much of them didn’t like each other or did they but the brothers were the issue that got between them. When they were together they seemed to get a long (yes I’m aware we weren’t there) well enough. I read a snippet that said, basically, Harry says the media stuff caused a rift between the SILs and the rift between him and William is more personal.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2023 13:28:13 GMT -6
I do wonder how much of them didn’t like each other or did they but the brothers were the issue that got between them. When they were together they seemed to get a long (yes I’m aware we weren’t there) well enough. I read a snippet that said, basically, Harry says the media stuff caused a rift between the SILs and the rift between him and William is more personal. I can believe this
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 11, 2023 13:28:29 GMT -6
The latter part of the book is a lot about how the high up staff that Harry reached out to flat out did not do shit. Said they would make a plan to address x,y,z and just never got back to him and Meghan. It read like there was a lot of strings pulled by the staff to mess with H&M.
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Post by beepers on Jan 11, 2023 13:29:48 GMT -6
I’m 10th on my Libby hold list and I need everyone who has it now to hurry up and read it already. (Also I’m glad someone mentioned putting it on hold on Tuesday because there’s now over 800 people who have it on hold at my library)
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Post by beepers on Jan 11, 2023 13:31:14 GMT -6
I do wonder how much of them didn’t like each other or did they but the brothers were the issue that got between them. When they were together they seemed to get a long (yes I’m aware we weren’t there) well enough. I read a snippet that said, basically, Harry says the media stuff caused a rift between the SILs and the rift between him and William is more personal. Makes sense. And I suspect some “stand by your man” stuff going on here too. ESP for Kate because I’d guess Willy would go nuclear if she sided on anything with H and subsequently Meg
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Post by Eagles on Jan 11, 2023 13:33:58 GMT -6
I read a snippet that said, basically, Harry says the media stuff caused a rift between the SILs and the rift between him and William is more personal. I can believe this And if it was the media stuff with Kate and Meghan and it turns out that old Cam is behind a lot of that, pieces start fitting into place for me. I'm not absolving Kate of being a bitch, but it could be Camilla wanted to keep them at odds so they couldn't unite against her. You're not going to bitch about your SMIL to your SIL if you and SIL don't trust each other.
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Post by imapenguin on Jan 11, 2023 13:38:01 GMT -6
Even with the lipgloss thing, Harry admitted it was a culture clash that made Kate uncomfortable, but didn’t call her a bitch or anything. Kate sounds like she needs to unclench. I don’t think she was clenched—she shared the lip gloss. Harry was just illustrating how different they were and why they struggled to find common ground. Same with the hugs, same with the barefoot at home. An illustrative point in a larger narrative.
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Post by miawallace on Jan 11, 2023 13:39:34 GMT -6
I just realized I have 3 different lip products in my purse. A lip tint from Chapstick, a lip gloss and a lipstick. I can’t relate to Meg forgetting. I have lip goo in my car too just in case.
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Post by loony on Jan 11, 2023 13:39:38 GMT -6
My hold came up last night. I'm 15% in on the audio so far this morning. I'm really enjoying his narration. I was not going to do it but have a long flight tomorrow. Worth it? I probably wouldn't pay for it, but if you can get it through the library, it's entertaining and his voice is soothing.
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Post by willow on Jan 11, 2023 13:45:24 GMT -6
I’m laughing at Will threatening to shave off Harry’s beard during Harry’s bachelor party because he was pissed that QEII let him keep it for the wedding but he had to shave his off. He really comes off as incredibly petulant and immature. Can’t imagine why, what with his immense responsibility drilled into his head since birth and never addressing childhood trauma.
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Post by sifl on Jan 11, 2023 13:52:17 GMT -6
M forgot lip gloss before some joint event and asked K to use hers. K gave it to her, but I guess grimaced? Seemed less than super thrilled about it? H says this is a cultural issue because Americans share lip products? I actually think it’s likely that someone who does a lot of work with makeup artists for TV share lip products. Because, I, an American, do not share lip products. I think of it more “cultural” in the celebrity vs “regular”. I guarantee she shared lip gloss at some point on the red carpet. I remember sharing it with friends when I was prime bar/night club age. I wouldn’t now and stopped way before Covid so it’s still a no from me. But I do think instead of giving it to her and grimacing I would have straight up said sorry I have a thing with sharing lip stuff And this happened right before they did an event, right?
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Post by Eagles on Jan 11, 2023 13:54:59 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far.
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Post by Sweetjane on Jan 11, 2023 14:01:45 GMT -6
Kate sounds like she needs to unclench. I don’t think she was clenched—she shared the lip gloss. Harry was just illustrating how different they were and why they struggled to find common ground. Same with the hugs, same with the barefoot at home. An illustrative point in a larger narrative. I mean in general, not just the lip gloss. The hugging thing, the general formality makes her seem so cold.
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Post by ggirl on Jan 11, 2023 14:01:48 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far. Ma’am
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2023 14:13:23 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far. Omg what if while they were watching suits one night Will expressed attraction of Meghan fast forward a couple years and she is your sister in law! This is a joke for the record
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2023 14:16:30 GMT -6
I read a snippet that said, basically, Harry says the media stuff caused a rift between the SILs and the rift between him and William is more personal. Makes sense. And I suspect some “stand by your man” stuff going on here too. ESP for Kate because I’d guess Willy would go nuclear if she sided on anything with H and subsequently Meg Will is for sure the type
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 11, 2023 14:26:34 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far. And this is so wrong, but I cannot stop laughing.
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Post by miawallace on Jan 11, 2023 14:37:06 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far. I think she resented having to fix her problem. Which is why I was saying it’s a cracker eater thing. I think everyone in that family is every man for themselves. This was my initial reaction to Kate not wanting to share a lipgloss that really could easily be replaced and given away.
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Post by beesquared on Jan 11, 2023 14:37:49 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far. I am in a very serious meeting! Thank goodness I was muted.
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Post by pitchslap on Jan 11, 2023 15:05:51 GMT -6
Maybe Kate already resented sharing Willy's penis with other women and lip balm was a bridge too far. Omg what if while they were watching suits one night Will expressed attraction of Meghan fast forward a couple years and she is your sister in law! This is a joke for the record Here👏for👏it👏
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Post by imapenguin on Jan 11, 2023 15:06:53 GMT -6
The story of Archie’s birth 😭
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Post by STP on Jan 11, 2023 15:20:21 GMT -6
I wouldn’t share my lipgloss.
Ew.
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Post by goldenbird on Jan 11, 2023 15:29:46 GMT -6
The story of Archie’s birth 😭 Both of the babies' stories had me in tears
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Post by jett on Jan 11, 2023 15:44:30 GMT -6
I don’t think she was clenched—she shared the lip gloss. Harry was just illustrating how different they were and why they struggled to find common ground. Same with the hugs, same with the barefoot at home. An illustrative point in a larger narrative. I mean in general, not just the lip gloss. The hugging thing, the general formality makes her seem so cold. I don’t see her as cold. At all. There’s so many photos and so much footage of her over the years laughing with other family members (including and maybe even especially Harold) and members of the public, and she’s notoriously chatty at engagements. She seems great with kids, and very willing to play various sports etc. And of course none of this means she couldn’t possibly have been cold to Meghan. I just don’t see her as a cold person, generally. I do think she is/was much more aware of Royal protocol than Meghan (which makes sense - she’s been around/in the family for 20 odd years), and that that protocol was more important to uphold than it would have been to Meghan when they first met (which again makes total sense - future Queen Consort v woman newly dating 5th in-line to the throne).
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2023 15:57:20 GMT -6
I mean in general, not just the lip gloss. The hugging thing, the general formality makes her seem so cold. I don’t see her as cold. At all. There’s so many photos and so much footage of her over the years laughing with other family members (including and maybe even especially Harold) and members of the public, and she’s notoriously chatty at engagements. She seems great with kids, and very willing to play various sports etc. And of course none of this means she couldn’t possibly have been cold to Meghan. I just don’t see her as a cold person, generally. I do think she is/was much more aware of Royal protocol than Meghan (which makes sense - she’s been around/in the family for 20 odd years), and that that protocol was more important to uphold than it would have been to Meghan when they first met (which again makes total sense - future Queen Consort v woman newly dating 5th in-line to the throne). See and I see her as stand offish and I don’t even hate her for it because I can be that way until I get to know you. If I don’t know you and to go in for a hug you won’t realize I was caught off guard but deep down I am. For all the pictures of Kate engaging at work mind you because that is always brought up when we talk about her personality there a bunch where her more than likely natural RBF is on. Again I have one too so 🤷♀️
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