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Post by elle on Jan 9, 2023 13:23:53 GMT -6
* Full disclosure: I have not watched this interview, but I do have it recorded to watch at some point in the future.
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Post by beesquared on Jan 9, 2023 14:53:04 GMT -6
Yes! I know they see $$$ but goodness. I really want to know if Meghan read it before it went to print? Maybe we're giving her too much credit? Or maybe she's just avoiding the mess and letting him do his own thing I absolutely think Meghan has adopted an attitude of following his lead with regards to his family. I think that’s probably the right choice in the long run for the health of their marriage. Personally, I did the same with MH’s family. He can see them however/whenever he wants. I only am involved if my kids are involved and then we discuss what is best. Over the years, he has pulled more and more away from them as he has a better understanding of what a healthy family dynamic looks like. At some point we all have to learn we can only control our own behavior and how we react to what other do. We can’t control them or the situation. |
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Post by Eagles on Jan 9, 2023 14:56:56 GMT -6
* Full disclosure: I have not watched this interview, but I do have it recorded to watch at some point in the future. I wouldn't even fuck with these people anymore. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 9, 2023 15:02:25 GMT -6
Maybe we're giving her too much credit? Or maybe she's just avoiding the mess and letting him do his own thing I absolutely think Meghan has adopted an attitude of following his lead with regards to his family. I think that’s probably the right choice in the long run for the health of their marriage. Personally, I did the same with MH’s family. He can see them however/whenever he wants. I only am involved if my kids are involved and then we discuss what is best. Over the years, he has pulled more and more away from them as he has a better understanding of what a healthy family dynamic looks like. At some point we all have to learn we can only control our own behavior and how we react to what other do. We can’t control them or the situation. I agree - Meghan's comment in the final episode of the docuseries "He's your brother" was very telling. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 9, 2023 15:07:48 GMT -6
They honestly need a time turner and delete the Netflix doc and the book out of their lives. I don’t think any of those are turning out how they planned. I was fine with much of the docuseries. As for the book, I'll report back after I've actually read it and not just snippets or takes from those who also haven't read it either. I haven't watched any of the interviews yet either so I'd rather watch for myself than respond to comments. There was a lot of that going on (SM, in general) when the trailers for the docuseries was released and 99% of what was purported to be happening never happened (i.e. the paparazzi shots of other people/events being posited by Harry and Meghan as paparazzi for them - never happened in the series - it was only to show the evolution of the media over time from in-your-face in-person to online and of course they were going to show Diana footage - given what happened to her, was that any wonder). TL;DR: I'd like to read the book and watch the interviews for myself. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 9, 2023 15:14:19 GMT -6
I was fine with much of the docuseries. As for the book, I'll report back after I've actually read it and not just snippets or takes from those who also haven't read it either. I haven't watched any of the interviews yet either so I'd rather watch for myself than respond to comments. There was a lot of that going on (SM, in general) when the trailers for the docuseries was released and 99% of what was purported to be happening never happened (i.e. the paparazzi shots of other people/events being posited by Harry and Meghan as paparazzi for them - never happened in the series - it was only to show the evolution of the media over time from in-your-face in-person to online and of course they were going to show Diana footage - given what happened to her, was that any wonder). TL;DR: I'd like to read the book and watch the interviews for myself. There is really very little context that could redeem that quote about Susan Hussey from the Bradby interview. I watched the clip, and it's not good. It just isn't. I haven't watched any of this stuff (besides the docuseries) and I'm not suggesting I'll have any different take, just that I want a full picture. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 9, 2023 15:14:58 GMT -6
I was fine with much of the docuseries. As for the book, I'll report back after I've actually read it and not just snippets or takes from those who also haven't read it either. I haven't watched any of the interviews yet either so I'd rather watch for myself than respond to comments. There was a lot of that going on (SM, in general) when the trailers for the docuseries was released and 99% of what was purported to be happening never happened (i.e. the paparazzi shots of other people/events being posited by Harry and Meghan as paparazzi for them - never happened in the series - it was only to show the evolution of the media over time from in-your-face in-person to online and of course they were going to show Diana footage - given what happened to her, was that any wonder). TL;DR: I'd like to read the book and watch the interviews for myself. There is really very little context that could redeem that quote about Susan Hussey from the Bradby interview. I watched the clip, and it's not good. It just isn't. Or that asking about Archie’s skin color was not racist. It sounds like someone who wants to believe that their family isn’t racist when they are and/or the family played the intent card and he bought it when we have said here that intent doesn’t mean you aren’t showing racist tendencies or at minimum bias |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 9, 2023 15:16:11 GMT -6
I haven't watched any of this stuff (besides the docuseries) and I'm not suggesting I'll have any different take, just that I want a full picture. Oh for sure, for sure. I'm just offering my 2p. Get it? Get it? British cents, eh? Touche.  |
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Post by miawallace on Jan 9, 2023 15:32:41 GMT -6
They honestly need a time turner and delete the Netflix doc and the book out of their lives. I don’t think any of those are turning out how they planned. I was fine with much of the docuseries. As for the book, I'll report back after I've actually read it and not just snippets or takes from those who also haven't read it either. I haven't watched any of the interviews yet either so I'd rather watch for myself than respond to comments. There was a lot of that going on (SM, in general) when the trailers for the docuseries was released and 99% of what was purported to be happening never happened (i.e. the paparazzi shots of other people/events being posited by Harry and Meghan as paparazzi for them - never happened in the series - it was only to show the evolution of the media over time from in-your-face in-person to online and of course they were going to show Diana footage - given what happened to her, was that any wonder). TL;DR: I'd like to read the book and watch the interviews for myself. For me it was more about timing. I said before here, in my opinion, the documentary should have waited. I think all of it should have waited. This is me. |
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Post by miawallace on Jan 9, 2023 15:36:58 GMT -6
To me, what’s been coming out about Harry is like he hasn’t unpacked the isms he needs to unpack. Like he was just throwing out racial sound bites for the woke crowd when he doesn’t really stand by them. That’s very worrisome. I like them, but I’m finding myself so disappointed in him.
I hope his book talks about his journey with his privilege. All of it with the interviews have been such a letdown.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 9, 2023 15:41:28 GMT -6
I was fine with much of the docuseries. As for the book, I'll report back after I've actually read it and not just snippets or takes from those who also haven't read it either. I haven't watched any of the interviews yet either so I'd rather watch for myself than respond to comments. There was a lot of that going on (SM, in general) when the trailers for the docuseries was released and 99% of what was purported to be happening never happened (i.e. the paparazzi shots of other people/events being posited by Harry and Meghan as paparazzi for them - never happened in the series - it was only to show the evolution of the media over time from in-your-face in-person to online and of course they were going to show Diana footage - given what happened to her, was that any wonder). TL;DR: I'd like to read the book and watch the interviews for myself. For me it was more about timing. I said before here, in my opinion, the documentary should have waited. I think all of it should have waited. This is me. Waited for...more growth from Harry or something else? Genuinely curious here. |
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Post by miawallace on Jan 9, 2023 15:47:59 GMT -6
For me it was more about timing. I said before here, in my opinion, the documentary should have waited. I think all of it should have waited. This is me. Waited for...more growth from Harry or something else? Genuinely curious here. Just time. both projects happening back to back seems excessive. He doesn’t need to be anywhere personally in order to tell his truth. But the planning of both things seems like a lot considering the both things more or less talks about the same thing. Had his thing been different, I don’t know. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 9, 2023 15:55:18 GMT -6
Waited for...more growth from Harry or something else? Genuinely curious here. Just time. both projects happening back to back seems excessive. He doesn’t need to be anywhere personally in order to tell his truth. But the planning of both things seems like a lot considering the both things more or less talks about the same thing. Had his thing been different, I don’t know. I think this is fair. I appreciate the explanation. |
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Post by Sweetjane on Jan 9, 2023 16:23:31 GMT -6
* Full disclosure: I have not watched this interview, but I do have it recorded to watch at some point in the future. I wouldn't even fuck with these people anymore. I wonder if H cranked it up a notch after this happened. Like, fuck these people, let's go back in and add the lip gloss, the Camilla stuff etc. Let's burn it down!🔥 |
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Post by mb3 on Jan 9, 2023 16:29:54 GMT -6
I would on some things like the lipgloss or whatever sure. Not telling the world that his family isn’t racist by asking what color Archie’s skin was or telling the world that we love someone and they didn’t mean anything racist by their actions. I dont understand why he even said anything about Hussey. He wasn’t there, he could’ve just passed on that question. It’s so bizarre. Was he asked directly about her or was it unsolicited on his part? And I realize it doesn’t really matter, I’m just nosy and curious because I haven’t watched. |
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Post by hawkward on Jan 9, 2023 16:37:34 GMT -6
Like, the right team would have told Bradby "he's not commenting on Susan Hussey, don't even ask him about Susan Hussey, why the fuck would he know anything about Susan Hussey?" And then Harry would know to say "I'm not there, my thoughts are with everyone hurt by this situation especially Ngozi Fulani, but I can't tell you anything about it because participation in that institution is not part of our lives." and not...whatever the hell unforced error that was. Petition for swell to be Harry’s PR team. |
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Post by sifl on Jan 9, 2023 16:39:31 GMT -6
Like, the right team would have told Bradby "he's not commenting on Susan Hussey, don't even ask him about Susan Hussey, why the fuck would he know anything about Susan Hussey?" And then Harry would know to say "I'm not there, my thoughts are with everyone hurt by this situation especially Ngozi Fulani, but I can't tell you anything about it because participation in that institution is not part of our lives." and not...whatever the hell unforced error that was. Exactly. I could definitely see him not wanting to be “handled” though, given his past. But H, you haven’t quite got the right balance yet, bud. |
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Post by sifl on Jan 9, 2023 16:40:05 GMT -6
I dont understand why he even said anything about Hussey. He wasn’t there, he could’ve just passed on that question. It’s so bizarre. Was he asked directly about her or was it unsolicited on his part? And I realize it doesn’t really matter, I’m just nosy and curious because I haven’t watched. Idk actually, I haven’t watched it yet either. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 9, 2023 17:00:03 GMT -6
Like, the right team would have told Bradby "he's not commenting on Susan Hussey, don't even ask him about Susan Hussey, why the fuck would he know anything about Susan Hussey?" And then Harry would know to say "I'm not there, my thoughts are with everyone hurt by this situation especially Ngozi Fulani, but I can't tell you anything about it because participation in that institution is not part of our lives." and not...whatever the hell unforced error that was. We should reach out to them. You and I can do it much better. I’ll even ok a 5am email if needed |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 9, 2023 17:02:02 GMT -6
Like, the right team would have told Bradby "he's not commenting on Susan Hussey, don't even ask him about Susan Hussey, why the fuck would he know anything about Susan Hussey?" And then Harry would know to say "I'm not there, my thoughts are with everyone hurt by this situation especially Ngozi Fulani, but I can't tell you anything about it because participation in that institution is not part of our lives." and not...whatever the hell unforced error that was. Exactly. I could definitely see him not wanting to be “handled” though, given his past. But H, you haven’t quite got the right balance yet, bud. Yes he needs to realize there is a difference between being handled and being helped |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 9, 2023 17:02:43 GMT -6
But again the stuff I’ve seen is base level shit and he shouldn’t need someone telling him what to say he should know
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Post by armpants on Jan 9, 2023 17:35:54 GMT -6
Up until recently I'd really given H the benefit of the doubt, but looking back most of his comments until that point had had a chance to be edited. These recent appearances are not good. I will say I haven't watched the interviews, but I agree with thos who previously said there isn't context that could make them okay.
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Post by STP on Jan 9, 2023 18:05:07 GMT -6
Like, the right team would have told Bradby "he's not commenting on Susan Hussey, don't even ask him about Susan Hussey, why the fuck would he know anything about Susan Hussey?" And then Harry would know to say "I'm not there, my thoughts are with everyone hurt by this situation especially Ngozi Fulani, but I can't tell you anything about it because participation in that institution is not part of our lives." and not...whatever the hell unforced error that was. Exactly. I feel like some of us are talking about an on display media strategy and others are talking about it on some personal level w/ imagined conversations and make believe scenarios bc you like them. The strategy of this campaign- including how he’s coming off in interviews (either through stubbornness or bad management, I have no idea), the timing, the leaking (by him, the publisher, the PR group, I have no idea) - is not striking the right tone. Making this about my brother is bald and doesn’t look like my mom anymore - see 60 min interview where he smirked when that is read - is not striking the right tone. And on. We all are glad they got away, we all think the BRF/press are racist AF. |
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Post by newspapers on Jan 9, 2023 18:42:13 GMT -6
But again the stuff I’ve seen is base level shit and he shouldn’t need someone telling him what to say he should know But why should he know? He is a literal prince of the former British Empire. When has he ever had to materially think about the consequences of his actions? I am not saying this to absolve him of dumbassery at all; I just don't have expectations of him. |
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Post by sifl on Jan 9, 2023 18:51:52 GMT -6
But again the stuff I’ve seen is base level shit and he shouldn’t need someone telling him what to say he should know But why should he know? He is a literal prince of the former British Empire. When has he ever had to materially think about the consequences of his actions? I am not saying this to absolve him of dumbassery at all; I just don't have expectations of him. I’m pretty sure H himself has claimed to have “done the work” (I think it was in the context of comparing himself to his family, which, sure). And he has a biracial family so it is his responsibility. |
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Post by STP on Jan 9, 2023 19:03:58 GMT -6
But again the stuff I’ve seen is base level shit and he shouldn’t need someone telling him what to say he should know But why should he know? He is a literal prince of the former British Empire. When has he ever had to materially think about the consequences of his actions? I am not saying this to absolve him of dumbassery at all; I just don't have expectations of him. That can’t be the attitude though. I’m a white middle class American woman. That doesn’t excuse me from not knowing. Yes, it means I’m going to fuck up - and do often - but I’m not excused. I am and should be expected to do that material thinking. Before it personally involves me even, as it now has with him. |
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Post by newspapers on Jan 9, 2023 19:39:38 GMT -6
But why should he know? He is a literal prince of the former British Empire. When has he ever had to materially think about the consequences of his actions? I am not saying this to absolve him of dumbassery at all; I just don't have expectations of him. I’m pretty sure H himself has claimed to have “done the work” (I think it was in the context of comparing himself to his family, which, sure). And he has a biracial family so it is his responsibility. Well, yes, it would seem that even reading one of the books written by the author he is said to have met would be going far beyond anything his family would have thought to do! |
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Post by newspapers on Jan 9, 2023 19:48:09 GMT -6
But why should he know? He is a literal prince of the former British Empire. When has he ever had to materially think about the consequences of his actions? I am not saying this to absolve him of dumbassery at all; I just don't have expectations of him. That can’t be the attitude though. I’m a white middle class American woman. That doesn’t excuse me from not knowing. Yes, it means I’m going to fuck up - and do often - but I’m not excused. I am and should be expected to do that material thinking. Before it personally involves me even, as it now has with him. No, it doesn't excuse you from not knowing, nor him. But query as to exactly how much more of the "work" he wants to do. I know he has a biracial family, and, as such, it is for their benefit that he continue to think about how racism shows up in his own thinking and the world around his kids. But will he? The work, as it is said, is hard and uncomfortable and ongoing. This man never has to experience discomfort if he doesn't want to. |
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Post by beesquared on Jan 9, 2023 20:44:20 GMT -6
Waited for...more growth from Harry or something else? Genuinely curious here. Just time. both projects happening back to back seems excessive. He doesn’t need to be anywhere personally in order to tell his truth. But the planning of both things seems like a lot considering the both things more or less talks about the same thing. Had his thing been different, I don’t know. I disagree. Rip the band-aid off and get it all out. It’s been a drip fest from the British media for 5 years. They literally write hundreds of articles about them a week. They can have their say and move on to the next project. |
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Post by miawallace on Jan 9, 2023 21:13:10 GMT -6
Just time. both projects happening back to back seems excessive. He doesn’t need to be anywhere personally in order to tell his truth. But the planning of both things seems like a lot considering the both things more or less talks about the same thing. Had his thing been different, I don’t know. I disagree. Rip the band-aid off and get it all out. It’s been a drip fest from the British media for 5 years. They literally write hundreds of articles about them a week. They can have their say and move on to the next project. I mean I’m here for all that. I’m not saying they shouldn’t speak their truth in any way. Im only saying there probably should have been more distance between both projects and even in their initial release. Both projects are similar in content so I guess that’s the part that feels like overload to me. I don’t work for them so it’s just an opinion and they can do what they want. No one is stopping them. The content in Harry’s memoire and the things he’s been saying in interviews is what tells me they should have waited - at the minimum with his book. It doesn’t look good for them. They don’t have to take any high road on my account. They want to go low? That’s valid and ok. |
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