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Post by Eagles on Jan 6, 2023 2:08:12 GMT -6
Another excerpt says that Will was upset when he and Meghan met because she didn’t curtsy to him. Harry didn’t tell her to because he thought it would be unnecessary for a casual meeting with his brother. Even from a strict protocol sense, I don’t think Americans (and other non Commonwealth citizens) are required to bow or curtsy. Why did she have to curtsy to the queen? Because she was the monarch? I can't keep track of this archaic shit. STP |
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Post by jett on Jan 6, 2023 4:06:38 GMT -6
Another excerpt says that Will was upset when he and Meghan met because she didn’t curtsy to him. Harry didn’t tell her to because he thought it would be unnecessary for a casual meeting with his brother. Even from a strict protocol sense, I don’t think Americans (and other non Commonwealth citizens) are required to bow or curtsy. Why did she have to curtsy to the queen? Because she was the monarch? I can't keep track of this archaic shit. STP No one HAS to curtsy/bow. From the BRF’s own website (which hasn’t been updated to reflect QEII’s death): There are no obligatory codes of behaviour when meeting The Queen or a member of the Royal Family, but many people wish to observe the traditional forms. |
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Post by rachacha on Jan 6, 2023 6:50:37 GMT -6
I can see Will wanting Meg to curtsy to him as a power flex.
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Post by bazi on Jan 6, 2023 6:54:05 GMT -6
I’m starting to wonder if this book is going to backfire on him. This shit is SO petty. ETA and again…like shockingly basic. Royals are just like us!! |
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Post by claudia on Jan 6, 2023 7:09:08 GMT -6
I’m starting to wonder if this book is going to backfire on him. This shit is SO petty. I wonder how it is portrayed in the book. I think this is exactly what they were trying to avoid by not doing screeners to the press - people reporting the sensational stuff out of context. It seems like they had their plan pretty crafted as far as when interviews are released, and maybe even allowed the Guardian story to get out. But the whole book being released early in Spain now means that the narrative is basically being shaped by the media because most people still can't read it. Which potentially sucks because now people who don't read it are just going to have their opinions shaped by a few news editors - of course, if it ends up that these anecdotes are just shared the way they are in the media now and not as some broader point, then maybe it would always be that way. I mean, most of the US coverage so far has started with Page Six - a company owned by someone Harry is suing and who also owns The Sun. If he's taking big swipes at Murdoch in the book, this could be Murdoch's way of discrediting it before people have a chance to read it. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 6, 2023 7:18:07 GMT -6
I can see Will wanting Meg to curtsy to him as a power flex. He makes his own employees do it so 🤷♀️ |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 6, 2023 7:18:45 GMT -6
I’m starting to wonder if this book is going to backfire on him. This shit is SO petty. ETA and again…like shockingly basic. Royals are just like us!! It will and it’s sad he went this route but maybe now that he has it out he can move on |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 6, 2023 7:21:08 GMT -6
I’m starting to wonder if this book is going to backfire on him. This shit is SO petty. I wonder how it is portrayed in the book. I think this is exactly what they were trying to avoid by not doing screeners to the press - people reporting the sensational stuff out of context. It seems like they had their plan pretty crafted as far as when interviews are released, and maybe even allowed the Guardian story to get out. But the whole book being released early in Spain now means that the narrative is basically being shaped by the media because most people still can't read it. Which potentially sucks because now people who don't read it are just going to have their opinions shaped by a few news editors - of course, if it ends up that these anecdotes are just shared the way they are in the media now and not as some broader point, then maybe it would always be that way. I mean, most of the US coverage so far has started with Page Six - a company owned by someone Harry is suing and who also owns The Sun. If he's taking big swipes at Murdoch in the book, this could be Murdoch's way of discrediting it before people have a chance to read it. Exactly. I think this is exactly what the media wanted especially the UK media. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 6, 2023 7:40:11 GMT -6
The amount of Harry is lying about his Military time, good for Will for beating him up, Harry is weak, and I’ve even seen many Meghan broke his necklace but he is blaming it on Will is not small. I know I can’t say this as I’ve talked here about it all day but man people have to much time I've seen this, too, especially the defense of Will beating him up with comments like "that's how siblings roll" (which, no, they do not) or "I need the full context of what happened before Will knocked him to the ground aka what did Harry do - to deserve it, apparently" or "Wills was just defending post-partum Kate" and the fight happened in 2019 and Louis was born in 2018 so not even close, folks. |
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 6, 2023 7:43:10 GMT -6
I do tend to side more with Harry and Meghan because of the double standard in holding them up to the microscope (and apparently, that's their fault, too, for putting themselves out there?) and yet not doing so with the rest of the BRF, Wills and Kate included, and the proverbial drop in the ocean comparatively. If there were objectivity where Harry and Meghan were concerned, I'd feel differently, but so much of what I have seen, heard, read, et al, makes it more than apparent there is definite bias (unconscious or decidedly conscious) at play.
The double standard is absolutely in favor of William and Kate as the overwhelming majority of discussions on social media is giving every bit of grace to them, every excuse, every sort of quarter for their behavior but eviscerating Harry and Meghan. Like Will getting physical with Harry being championed and it being Harry's fault.
I was one of the least likely to be a fan of Harry and Meghan, but it's this kind of discourse that nudged me into their corner and no, not a corner where I spend my time nodding and smiling at everything they do and say either. No one is blameless but far more often than not, only one couple is called out while the other is excused to the nth degree and I take issue with that, especially when the justifications for why one couple is excused don't make sense.
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Post by beatch on Jan 6, 2023 7:54:08 GMT -6
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Post by Eagles on Jan 6, 2023 7:57:59 GMT -6
Why did she have to curtsy to the queen? Because she was the monarch? I can't keep track of this archaic shit. STP No one HAS to curtsy/bow. From the BRF’s own website (which hasn’t been updated to reflect QEII’s death): There are no obligatory codes of behaviour when meeting The Queen or a member of the Royal Family, but many people wish to observe the traditional forms. But that was a whole thing that as they were driving up to meet the queen Harry was like "oh you know how to curtsy right? Because you have to." She must really love this dude. |
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Post by Eagles on Jan 6, 2023 7:59:27 GMT -6
If these were my ILs I'd probably have been like "dick is abundant and low value, I'm out of here."
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Jan 6, 2023 8:06:26 GMT -6
I can see Will wanting Meg to curtsy to him as a power flex. He makes his own employees do it so 🤷♀️ Meghan, as an American, did not technically have to curtsey to QEII or other senior royals, but I have no doubt that it was absolutely expected of her by the BRF and would have reflected poorly on her and Harry had she not done so. |
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Post by beesquared on Jan 6, 2023 8:08:19 GMT -6
Yes, no one has to curtsy or bow to a monarch they are not the subject of. (Excluding greetings that are cultural vs royals based).
Meghan curtsying to Elizabeth was a thing because in their minds you wouldn’t consider doing anything else out of respect. Protocol wise, she didn’t have to. But let’s be real, if she didn’t curtsy to the Queen when they met she would have held that against her forever within the family and the firm. At this point Meghan and Harry were really trying to move forward with good intentions.
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Post by beesquared on Jan 6, 2023 8:13:06 GMT -6
I’m avoiding spoiler articles because I do want the context. So much is lost in a 2 sentence sound bite.
I do think Harry approached this book with a laying it all out there mindset. If he tells everything about *his* life, then they have nothing to hang over his head. He can rip the band-aid off of having any leaks used as coverage in the future.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 6, 2023 8:28:29 GMT -6
I’m avoiding spoiler articles because I do want the context. So much is lost in a 2 sentence sound bite. I do think Harry approached this book with a laying it all out there mindset. If he tells everything about *his* life, then they have nothing to hang over his head. He can rip the band-aid off of having any leaks used as coverage in the future. I can see this as a you can’t blackmail me I’ve said the worst stuff I’m sure they will find something |
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Post by beesquared on Jan 6, 2023 8:37:04 GMT -6
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Post by beesquared on Jan 6, 2023 8:50:09 GMT -6
Bonus, some stuff that would have caused headlines for days/weeks will get buried under more salacious tidbits and not have the same media effect in the future.
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Post by bazi on Jan 6, 2023 9:03:06 GMT -6
Guys, no context is going to make the spanking in the field less wild. I snorted. |
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Post by claudia on Jan 6, 2023 9:06:40 GMT -6
Guys, no context is going to make the spanking in the field less wild. I think that is a unity horse.... or unity stallion? I'll show myself out. |
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Post by beesquared on Jan 6, 2023 9:06:47 GMT -6
Guys, no context is going to make the spanking in the field less wild. I want to hear the full details! Give me all the craziness! What else happened in that field, lol? |
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Post by beesquared on Jan 6, 2023 9:10:28 GMT -6
But, also I’m not scandalized about Harry losing his virginity. Or telling the story in his book. It’s his story to tell. 🤷🏻♀️
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Post by ArielMermaid on Jan 6, 2023 9:10:54 GMT -6
So, the Taliban is now aware of Harry’s self professed kill count.
You can imagine how well this is going.
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Post by Eagles on Jan 6, 2023 9:13:36 GMT -6
Guys, no context is going to make the spanking in the field less wild. I was trying to read the posts to H last night to explain why I was laughing hard enough to cause a coughing fit but he was like "Eagles, I'm eating. I don't want to hear about a dude losing his virginity in a field!" WELL THEN DON'T ASK, SIR |
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Post by Eagles on Jan 6, 2023 9:19:38 GMT -6
Guys, no context is going to make the spanking in the field less wild. I think that is a unity horse.... or unity stallion? I'll show myself out. Ma'am. |
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Post by angelashly on Jan 6, 2023 9:22:54 GMT -6
Guys, no context is going to make the spanking in the field less wild. 😂😂😂 |
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Post by STP on Jan 6, 2023 9:26:02 GMT -6
I'm not scandalized.
I think it's funny as shit though.
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Post by Eagles on Jan 6, 2023 9:32:00 GMT -6
I'm not scandalized. I think it's funny as shit though. I realized last night that neither H nor I have ever shared the stories of when and how we cashed in our V cards, and I am perfectly okay with that. |
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Post by STP on Jan 6, 2023 9:32:38 GMT -6
And I'll stand on my island alone - I think the pre-release and leaks were 100% planned. This is about sales and attention and revenge. This is making the BRF's lives hell (which I don't care about).
I will forever feel this went EXACTLY how he wanted.
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