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Post by McBenny on Apr 14, 2022 22:26:21 GMT -6
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Post by angelashly on Apr 15, 2022 6:14:24 GMT -6
Ohh I’ll be here when I get to work
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 6:15:38 GMT -6
I have noted I need to post but work.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 6:56:50 GMT -6
ok so to begin with, why is he suing her? He is alleging that she defamed him in an op ed that she wrote for the Washington Post where she claimed to be a victim of domestic abuse. She first raised this claim in their divorce proceedings in 2016.
It should be noted that she never proved she was abused because their divorce was settled out of court in the midst of a "media uproar." They did release a joint statement at that time stating "neither party has made false accusations for financial gain. There was never any intent of physical or emotional harm. Amber wishes the best for Johnny in the future."
Fast forward during the height of the MeToo movement she release her column. The column left the strong impression without mentioning him that she was an abuse victim because she was beaten during her volatile 15 month marraige to him.
He immediately filed suit and his former attorney stated "Ms Heard is not a victim of domestic abuse, she is a perpetrator."
She is countersuing for defamation as well stating his former attorney made public statements about her.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 7:00:22 GMT -6
For those that do not know, the case is in Fairfax, VA. Depp's lawyers felt it appropriate as this is where the Post is published and their servers are located and the Post is heavily circulated in the area.
Heard's attorneys wanted it in LA. That motion was denied.
During jury selection a lot of the jurors did not know who she was at all. They did know who he was. A lot of them stated they didn't know much about either or that they were married. Some of the jurors report to not have any social media presence. Is this important? Maybe not. Just sharing the kind of people they got on the jury.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 7:07:11 GMT -6
So all of this began 5/21/16 when she claimed he attacked her and beat her face with a cell phone in their loft in downtown LA. She filed for divorce 2 days later, she showed up to court with a visible bruise on her right cheek and used the claim to get a restraining order against Depp who was out of the country at the time.
Her legal and PR teams at that time told reported the LAPD would back her up. They did not. The officers stated they did not see any injuries on her and their body cams showed the loft was not in any disarray. She told them she did not want to file a police report and they concluded it wasn't warranted because no crime had occurred.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 15, 2022 7:34:38 GMT -6
I can't wait for all the evidence to come out during this trial
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Post by STP on Apr 15, 2022 9:10:21 GMT -6
He has crafted a whole story that is quite believed on social media that she beat him, and he was simply afraid for his life and safety. She has been threatened bc of it. It's a whole thing. He claims any physical stuff on his side was just self-defense.
Which can certainly be true but it feels off given that it came out after her claims.
There's a video of him flinching next to her on a red carpet and the stans are like "omg see how he flinches bc she's so brutal, my heart breaks, blah."
Folks, I just think let's wait a beat.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:21:49 GMT -6
He has crafted a whole story that is quite believed on social media that she beat him, and he was simply afraid for his life and safety. She has been threatened bc of it. It's a whole thing. He claims any physical stuff on his side was just self-defense. Which can certainly be true but it feels off given that it came out after her claims. There's a video of him flinching next to her on a red carpet and the stans are like "omg see how he flinches bc she's so brutal, my heart breaks, blah." Folks, I just think let's wait a beat. To be fair I believe he had planned for none of this to come out. They got divorced and then let's move on. However, 2 years later she wrote her article and so now he's like oh no. I'm commenting solely to maybe explain why he did not speak to it until her claims.
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Post by STP on Apr 15, 2022 9:23:43 GMT -6
He has crafted a whole story that is quite believed on social media that she beat him, and he was simply afraid for his life and safety. She has been threatened bc of it. It's a whole thing. He claims any physical stuff on his side was just self-defense. Which can certainly be true but it feels off given that it came out after her claims. There's a video of him flinching next to her on a red carpet and the stans are like "omg see how he flinches bc she's so brutal, my heart breaks, blah." Folks, I just think let's wait a beat. To be fair I believe he had planned for none of this to come out. They got divorced and then let's move on. However, 2 years later she wrote her article and so now he's like oh no. I'm commenting solely to maybe explain why he did not speak to it until her claims. I am sure it is in reaction to her claims, but the whole thing feels off.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:25:23 GMT -6
Also to note, in the height of the MeToo movement she was very much believed and he was drug over the coals. People called for his removal from Pirates of the Caribbean. He received a lot of backlash and was dropped from several projects. No calls and meetings anymore.
I know for me personally I immediately believed her.
It was not until his defamation case in the UK and I heard the tapes, saw the text messages with her parents and her parents to him did I change my mind.
Johnny has enough money and really doesn't have to work anymore. For him the issue is his reputation. He can't sue just for that so he has to cite loss of wages and jobs.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:26:37 GMT -6
Dupe
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:30:18 GMT -6
So yesterday there was testimony from Amber's former assistant.
Last name James. I'm on the move and notebook at home so I may edit later with details or stuff I don't remember.
The assistant worked for Amber for 3 years during which time she was married to Johnny.
James deposition was shown in court not her actually there. During which time she had said that Amber was prone to fits of rage. Johnny was very soft spoken and often tried to get away from Amber during these episodes.
The assistant was not allowed to speak much with Johnny was Amber would get pissed off.
She testified Amber once spit on her when she asked for a raise.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:35:31 GMT -6
The assistant said from 2 to 4 am Amber would call her screaming over the phone in a rage or sending a barrage of texts.
She testified she never saw Amber with a cut or a bruise of any injury during the 3 years.
A handyman witness Amber raging on her when she asked for a raise when switching from part time to full time. He supported her account.
James also testified that Amber treated her sister like a dog and her mother was terrified of her. This has also been said by others. I can cite who later.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:39:27 GMT -6
Among the prescription drugs that Heard took was the sleeping aid Provigil but James claimed that the side effects sent Heard into a 'manic episode.'
She said: 'It was similar to if someone was on some sort of amphetamine drug. Moving very fast, hyper organizing, hyper tasking, just very, very hyper.'
James claimed that Heard told her she had taken mushrooms, ecstasy and cocaine and that it left her 'disorientated' and made her drink heavily and go out with her friends.
When Heard was intoxicated she 'became more and more belligerent and abusive', James said.
James claimed that Heard's insecurities about her relationship were because she 'didn't like to be away from Johnny's physical presence.'
James said that Heard didn't like the crowd that Depp hung out with, either.
She said: 'She told me she didn't like hanging out in his house with his friends because it was boring and they were all old men playing guitars and it wasn't interesting to her' - sparking laughter from Depp.
Asked about her impression of Depp, James said he was 'peaceful, almost shy, very quiet' and called him a 'total Southern gentleman.'
She never saw him loose his call and he was 'always completely passive.'
She used to chat with him but James said she would 'stop immediately when Amber saw me talking to him and would give me the evil eye.'
The court heard about the day in Mary 2016 when Heard arrived in Los Angeles having flown from Boston where he was supposedly abusive and drunk towards her.
I believe it was confirmed Amber was on the medication mentioned and a side effect of it is behavior mentioned in the UK trial.
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Post by STP on Apr 15, 2022 9:40:49 GMT -6
I think Amber is a nightmare and likely physical in her rage.
Let me be clear.
I just think he probably is too.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:41:29 GMT -6
She was asked about a text allegedly sent by Depp to James in August 2016, reading, according to the transcript introduced as evidence: “Thank you, sweetheart... I’m disgusted that I ever f*****’ touched that scum... Back on Tuesday!!! And then... Court!!! Will hit you when I get back, doll... Come over for a spot of purple and we’ll fix her flabby a**, nice and good!!! Loveth... J.”
It was suggested during questioning that “a spot of purple” was a way of referring to red wine.
Asked whether James understood the text to be referring to Heard, James first said it wasn’t for her to speculate.
She was then asked about previous testimony she gave during the 2020 trial between Depp and The Sun in the UK, during which she was asked whether the text was about Heard. On that occasion, she replied, according to a transcript read as evidence in Virginia: “Yes. Yes.”
In her latest testimony, which was shared on Thursday as a video recording, James said on that occasion, she had been “just trying to be agreeable in the court, having no clue what on earth is going on”.
Asked whether the answer she gave in the UK was truthful or whether she was just being agreeable, James said: “Just being agreeable.”
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:47:11 GMT -6
Yesterday his sister C. Dembrowski testified that Johnny had been the victim of physical abuse.
She also testified that he had never become violent before due to their background as DV survivors.
She also testified that their mother was extremely verbally abusive and this is probably why he took it from Amber for so long.
She belittled him and called him old and fat. She flew off the handle when she found Dior was in talks with him about a cologne. She said Dior was about class and something else. Neither of which he had.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:51:34 GMT -6
His sister is also his manager. Under cross Amber's lawyers tried to imply financial gain for her. This was refuted in that she was paid an annual salary already predetermined. There was no bump in pay.
She did say she loved her brother but would not lie under oath for him.
She said Johnny was never violent that she knew of even when abusing substances.
Under cross she did concede that someone on drugs could become violent and not remember.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 9:52:34 GMT -6
The sister's testimony also covered a laundry list of injuries Johnny suffered. Too many to list here.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 10:07:14 GMT -6
To be fair under cross Amber's lawyer went at Dembroski about texts between her and Amber.
None said anything about physical abuse.
Heard's lawyers are painting Depp to be a violent drug addict.
His sister said in texts that she loved him and he needed help. She affirmed she said this but it was about the drug use.
She encouraged Amber to tell him the same. Again she said it was about thr drug use.
Johnny was under doctors care for a prescription pain addiction.
His sister in cross states again that Johnny was a drug addict but she had not seen him violent. He was more despondent that he would never be able to kick the habit.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 15, 2022 10:25:58 GMT -6
I think Amber is a nightmare and likely physical in her rage. Let me be clear. I just think he probably is too. This is my stance for now too. I don't believe all that she has put forth and for that I hope he wins this if it comes out that she was defaming him. I think she was physical and probably emotionally abusive to him and knew just what to say and there is a special place for those type of people who do those types of things. There is something in her that made him do things he didn't normally do and there are people who are not violent their whole life who turn violent in that right situation so yeah. I do think she defamed him though and he wouldn't be going through all this if he didn't have things to show that.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 12:27:08 GMT -6
Oh something else the sister testified to - She used to make his travel arrangements. Flights, booking the rooms, etc. She started having to book another room as a place for Johnny to go to get away from Amber.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 12:29:04 GMT -6
The assistant, handyman, and the sister have all basically said without saying it that Amber has her own issues with substance abuse. They never came outright and said it but it appears as though she is a drunk. She also just got meaner when she would drink.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 15, 2022 12:36:40 GMT -6
I think Amber is a nightmare and likely physical in her rage. Let me be clear. I just think he probably is too. I don’t know the ins and outs of this but two nightmare people that act like arseholes to each other, fine. I mean not fine but both equally awful. But that wasn’t just it was it? One of them decided to make it public and act like it was one sided, right? Which makes one more awful than the other. I believe that is what is STP is saying too and I agree.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 12:40:28 GMT -6
OMG I can't believe I forgot to post the most awful claim - Kate James - her former assistant
Testified that she told Amber of a time she was SA at machete-point in Brazil about 25 years ago. She was then shocked to lean that in a witness statement, Amber misrepresented and exploited the incident. "she twisted it into her own story and used it for her own use."
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 12:43:44 GMT -6
Most awful to me - sorry
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Post by McBenny on Apr 15, 2022 12:48:38 GMT -6
Ok so the body came footage earlier is important. It is important because Amber has the one incident where she is trying to say there was proof and an injury and others saw it.
Her claim is that there was a blowout fight and he trashed their penthouse and threw a phone at her face. Hence the infamous right cheek photo. So verbally this is what she said happened.
Facts - the police were called. They came out. Hence the body cam footage. The penthouse was nice and neat. Amber also had no visible injuries to her person.
4 different LAPD officers were there in the space of 2 hours.
The 1st two officers gave depositions reiterating that they did a sweep of the property and didn't see any injuries, vandalism or evidence of a crime.
Amber and her friends had reported a chaotic messy crime scene.
Again there is video footage of the complete opposite.
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