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Post by McBenny on Apr 18, 2022 19:07:14 GMT -6
Do we need Blac Chyna and Kardashian coverage? Lmk
I will post more when I get home.
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Post by sassafras83 on Apr 18, 2022 20:46:42 GMT -6
The transcript after AH's BFF shows that she has been sitting on the front row after being asked to move to the back cause she's a journalist. She also has been sending out live tweets of the court proceedings. Judge is like what?! So anyway this is how Eve got permanent banned from court. These people are not very bright.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 18, 2022 21:49:56 GMT -6
ok so today we had Dr Kip per who was their private doctor for years. His testimony was submitted via video deposition as he has testified before.
***Now I will type off memory and when they release official transcript I will make any corrections or add on and take aways***
His most interesting testimony was about the 2015 incident which is the severed finger incident so...
Now it is interesting because there has been many storied about how he lost 'is finger. AH has told 3 separate stories herself. Anyway...
2015 - She did not go to any hospital or try to receive any medical treatment that week. Other than 2 hours in psychotherapy. AH had previously claimed that she was in a "hostage situation" with her then H, JD. In the UK trial this got thrown out when they asked her:
"You had the opportunity to leave at any point during those three days, did you not?"
AH: "I could have called someone to come and get me, yes, but the property itself was quite isolated."
LAWYER: "You describe yourself as being a hostage, a hostage-type situation. That is in your statement I read out earlier, yes?"
AH: "I said it was like one."
Later -
LAWYER: "that is total lies, is it not because you had a cell phone?"
AH: Yes
L: "if you are a hostage, you don't usually have one of those."
judge: "Just a minute, You had a cell phone and you agreed that you did.
AH: I did.
L: You could have contacted anybody.
AH: I could have.
L: If you wanted, at any point?
AH: Absolutely
Anyway, the questioning goes on and the judge orders that Amber meant hostage as in a hyperbole. This is why so many people discount the UK trial because AH was allowed to perjure herself many times without consequence.
(Also I said lawyer but I think it's a barrister and not a judge but justice) sorry
Why is this important or a thing here? It's important here because Dr Kipper saw AH on that day. Other than being upset she was fine and he saw no cuts on her. This is important because she has stated she was covered in cuts because JD had drug her through broken glass.
On 12/15 of the same year AH alleged a similar situation happened to her. She was almost smothered to death by JD and he even broke the bed doing so.
But when she saw Dr on 12/17 2 days later she showed no signs of physical injury. He complained of a headache which he told her to take over the counter meds for. He said he even did a concussion check but she had no signs of such.
He also testified that if there had been any physical injuries on AH on that day that the person he had in office would have had to report it.
Interesting - it showed in her medical records that she was diagnosed with insomnia. AH has said she has narcolepsy and the medicine she takes for it is something with a P. This came up before remember with former assistant who said she was abusing it. A known side effect of this drug is weight loss. The assistant said this is why AH would be awake all hours of the night acting out.
So again it's interesting to see no diagnosis of narcolepsy but insomnia.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 18, 2022 21:53:08 GMT -6
Can you have narcolepsy and insomnia at the same time?
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Post by McBenny on Apr 18, 2022 22:13:36 GMT -6
Anyway, we also heard from JD's sobriety nurse Debbie I think. Not sure.
She testified to working with Dr K. She was there to administer meds to JD and for emotional support.
She testified that a source of stress for the couple was arguing with each other and they argued more often than not. She testified that AH would instigate the fights and JD would flee them. She has seen her on multiple times following JD from room to room when he would try to leave an argument.
She testified she never saw physical violence between the two.
She has seen AH standing in the penthouse elevators not letting the nurse or JD to leave the penthouses because she didn't want him to leave her.
She also testified that JD had reported AH stealing his meds. She had wiped him out of everything before.
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Post by miawallace on Apr 18, 2022 23:37:46 GMT -6
I read somewhere that Ah was arrested for dv allegations against her previous girlfriend. She claims it was misconstrued or something. But 👀
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Post by byjove on Apr 19, 2022 6:09:00 GMT -6
I recently found out a friend has narcolepsy and they treat it with the same stimulant medications as ADHD. So if she was dosing herself in the evening, I could see it causing insomnia.
Also thanks for the live-blog. This trial is happening in close proximity to me, which has increased the intrigue for me.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 19, 2022 6:30:45 GMT -6
CROSS of Isaac B - he said of course he was upset at Amber for all the claims. He got emotional on the stand and said he is no longer upset. He just wants them to move on with their lives and find peace and happiness. He would like A to drop the malicious lies. He is just tired of all of it. He was asked about drug and alcohol use - has he ever seen JD do drugs - yes drink - of course Isaac said he has even done them with him. They also tried to ask Isaac if he knew what kind of foundation did Amber use? (I think they were trying to go with she could have covered it with make up) He of course kept saying I don't know, I don't know. Eventually he was asked "maybe she is just good with make up and covering up" (paraphrase) - Isaac said, "not that good cause she takes her make up artist with her wherever she goes." LOL - I died Have to pick up a kid, BRB Omg not that good I’m laughing
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Post by angelashly on Apr 19, 2022 6:31:45 GMT -6
Do we need Blac Chyna and Kardashian coverage? Lmk I will post more when I get home. Girl you know I’m interested in this one too
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Post by agm04 on Apr 19, 2022 9:27:38 GMT -6
I was planning to go to the office today, but then I remembered Johnny is taking the stand, so WFH it is. With my phone playing live court TV.
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Post by hardlyluck on Apr 19, 2022 9:39:24 GMT -6
I was planning to go to the office today, but then I remembered Johnny is taking the stand, so WFH it is. With my phone playing live court TV. I’m watching now, this attny is irritating.
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Post by normadix on Apr 19, 2022 9:48:10 GMT -6
Is she matching one of his previous outfits today? That has been wild!
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Post by bustedbiscuits on Apr 19, 2022 10:21:31 GMT -6
Can you have narcolepsy and insomnia at the same time? Not a doctor but I am curious as well. A quick google search shows: "A person can have both narcolepsy and insomnia. While the two conditions represent opposite ends of the sleep disorder spectrum, a person with narcolepsy — who may experience extreme tiredness during the day — will also typically experience difficulties remaining asleep at night." Source: www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/narcolepsy-and-insomnia#can-you-have-both
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Post by agm04 on Apr 19, 2022 10:54:25 GMT -6
I was planning to go to the office today, but then I remembered Johnny is taking the stand, so WFH it is. With my phone playing live court TV. I’m watching now, this attny is irritating. yeah i did not enjoy her.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 10:59:34 GMT -6
Ok so break in coverage - I have been forthcoming that initially when the op ed came out, I too believed she was talking about JD and I too believed her. It was the height of the Metoo movement and realistically I want to believe the woman. Through my work, I know better to just believe anyone but again just being honest that is where I was led and how I felt at the time.
I have never been a big fan. I seen him in movies, sure. Just never thought about him in any way. Her either.
Anyway, so I was confused and thought the case would have been dismissed since he was not named in the article but I see it has not been so there must be legal footing.
So I researched what does Johnny need to prove. This is what I have found so far. Again, research so don't jump my ass if I leave something out or you feel it is not correct - I got the shit online.
The elements of defamation are: 1) the publication of 2) an actual statement with the 3) requisite intent.
A public figure must prove that a defamatory statement was made with actual malice. That is, knowledge that it was false or reckless disregard that it was false or not.
There must be sufficient evidence that the defendant entertained serious doubts as to the truth of the publication.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:07:30 GMT -6
JD is on the stand. He is on the stand now.
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Post by agm04 on Apr 19, 2022 12:19:02 GMT -6
He is an actor (and I freely admit that I have always enjoyed him), but he seems very...nervous? Unsettled? I expected a cooler presentation. Not a criticism, just surprised. I mean that could be acting too.
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Post by agm04 on Apr 19, 2022 12:19:55 GMT -6
But damn he's still hot. I've never wanted to be anyone as much as Penelope Cruz in Blow.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:23:15 GMT -6
They asked me how does he feel about all his business being all out - he discussed how he has historically been a private person to try to shield his children.
He is now being asked about his mother having been abusive. It's all very sad. There were 4 children in the home. He has said that he was the one who usually took the brunt of it.
He said his mother was constantly physically violent. She could walk past you and just hit you. The physical abuse was just contact.
"Quiet a lot of verbal abuse. Bullying. Making fun of whatever defect one might have." His mother called his brother "4 eyes" and "bucktooth." His mother despise her inlaws. His mother would call his sister - Violet which was his paternal grandmother's name. He said it was a deep psychological cut for his mother to call Christi - Violet.
He is now talking about how his mother would make fun of him about his eye. He said she would call you anything to demean or humiliate you. Psychological abuse.
He said "the verbal and the psychological were almost worst than the beatings. The physical pain you learn to deal with but the psychological and emotional abuse it what tore us up, I think."
What about your father? He is very quiet, kind, and shy. Not confrontational in any way.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:24:04 GMT -6
He is an actor (and I freely admit that I have always enjoyed him), but he seems very...nervous? Unsettled? I expected a cooler presentation. Not a criticism, just surprised. I mean that could be acting too. I was going to post that he seemed nervous but after hearing the tapes it seems that in real life he talks like this. Very soft, monotone.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:25:04 GMT -6
He is testifying to his mother, Betty Sue hitting, attacking his father. Never not one time did his father ever retaliate and strike her. He said he once saw him punch a wall and shatter his hand.
He still never touched her. He never argued with her. He remained a gentleman. As a child JD wondered "why does he take this? Why doesn't he leave her?"
He said he was able to maintain his calm and his composure and maintain his relationship with his children. He was a good man, he is a good man.
(JD's father is still alive).
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:29:07 GMT -6
Was he ever abusive to you or your siblings? No. he was not an abusive man.
He states mom (Betty Sue) would often tell John to take the kids and "give them the belt." JD said he would have to do it or face her wrath.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:35:54 GMT -6
He is talking about the day his father left one morning like he was going to work but he had actually left. All his clothes and everything was gone.
After his dad left, his mother fell into a "deep dark depression."
He discusses a night he finds his mother dragging across the room and drooling. As he was about to call, his uncle and paramedics burst in the door and grabbed her. She had swallowed a lot of pills in an attempt to commit suicide. When she got out of the hospital the depression was so deep she dropped to about 70lbs and just lived in their couch.
At his young age, he felt his father had picked a cowardly way to leave and he was very upset by that.
Until years later when he and his father talked about it.
(AH's attorney asked to approach the bench in the middle of JD telling a story) - we are on a break
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 12:40:23 GMT -6
If I had to guess and assume I think AH's lawyer took issue with JD just being allowed to story tell. He is now being asked more direct questions by his attorney.
What did you learn about your father from your childhood? (I messed this question up badly I know). "I learned I was very wrong in my perception about him."
I will tell you what I learned based as my experiences as a child and what I seen and experience - I knew exactly how to raise children which was to do the opposite of what they did. Never raise your voice in front of the children. Never screaming out the word no to them. (He said "when my girl Vanessa became pregnant") "but to talk to them about the repercussions of things..."
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Post by joy on Apr 19, 2022 12:46:16 GMT -6
He is an actor (and I freely admit that I have always enjoyed him), but he seems very...nervous? Unsettled? I expected a cooler presentation. Not a criticism, just surprised. I mean that could be acting too. Denzel Washington spoke at my grad school commencement. It was the ceremony for the entire, Ivy league university, though. It was in our football stadium and just a massive crowd. He was nervous. He was SO nervous. You could hear it in his voice when he started talking. He actually messed up part of his speech, stopped, and admitted how nervous he was the whole crowd. Actors can get strage-fright! Especially when things are live and not filmed like a movie.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 13:03:09 GMT -6
Ok so AH's attorney asked to approach the bench. If I had to guess it was because he was asked how he got into acting.
I am guessing his team wanted him to be able to say how long he has been in industry to establish his career etc.
I am guessing AH's attorneys were questioning relevance. Or again wanted more direct questions asked and answered. This could be so he does not create a rapport with the jurors or to make him more nervous.
Who knows and it is all GUESSING ON MY PART.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 13:03:22 GMT -6
We are back and he is talking about his start in acting.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 13:16:02 GMT -6
He has now discussed how he came to take the role Captain Jack and how his life changed afterwards.
I am thinking the lawyer is going this way to show the importance of this role in his life. How it changed his life, etc. Since one of the points is that he was asked to resign from Pirates due to the AH allegations.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 13:41:44 GMT -6
GD I just found out my work phone is not taking inbound calls. I can't live report at this moment. I will take notes.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 14:14:43 GMT -6
JD is talking about taking one of his mother's "nerve" pills when he was a child and he would bring her medicine. He used it as an escape. He said this was "the beginning."
Side note - as private as he has historically been I am quite taken aback at how forthcoming he has been about his background and stuff. It is sad to me. This is all sad. He wants his name and his reputation back and I don't think he is going to win. I don't think he will ever get that back. You can unring this kind of bell.
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