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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 14:23:19 GMT -6
He has testified that he started his drug use at 11 years old. He has said it was to numb the pain. He has never thought of his drug use of "partying" and has never used that terminology.
He said he had told TV guide in a 1980 something interview that he had tried just about every drug he had known by the age of 15. He said that is not to say he was doing drugs consistently all the time. He said there were many years he didn't touch a drug or touch a drink. It has never been for a partying. He has been to numb the things inside that can plague a person who has experienced trauma.
The characterization of my substance abuse that has been delivered by Miss Heard is grossly embellished and I am sorry to say, a lot of it is just plainly false. I think it was an easy target for her to hit because once you have trusted somebody for a certain amount of years and told them your secrets then that information can be used against you.
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Post by jenna on Apr 19, 2022 15:00:57 GMT -6
Man what an ugly situation. It makes you wonder how much better off they would have been if they had never met.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 15:53:55 GMT -6
Ultimately I think people needed to hear from JD. He has never really spoken out his mouth about all of this. He has adamantly denied that he has ever struck AH. He says he has never struck any woman.
I feel his attorneys let him talk too long in some parts.
I feel he complained about being a celebrity a little too long even though he brought it back to he appreciates being able to afford some of the things in his life.
Some people speak of an accent coming here and there. I don't hear it. I hear an accent but it doesn't sound British to me or like he's trying to be European. (I normally struggle with British accents).
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Post by Bookshelves on Apr 19, 2022 16:47:05 GMT -6
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Post by catmom88 on Apr 19, 2022 17:26:47 GMT -6
I was sad listening today. It seems like a horrible situation where two people probably brought out the worst in each other.
I lean to believe him more though. Why else would he put himself, family, and all his close associates through this public trial?
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Post by McBenny on Apr 19, 2022 23:12:15 GMT -6
I was sad listening today. It seems like a horrible situation where two people probably brought out the worst in each other. I lean to believe him more though. Why else would he put himself, family, and all his close associates through this public trial? This didn't really hit me until today. To go from very private personal life to all this. It's sad. I feel he wants to clear his name but I don't think it will happen.
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Post by miawallace on Apr 20, 2022 12:39:45 GMT -6
I’m listening live and omg to the nail polish bit. I gasped so loud.
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Post by brux on Apr 20, 2022 12:47:02 GMT -6
I’m listening live and omg to the nail polish bit. I gasped so loud. what is it for those of us who are only keeping up on this thread
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Post by miawallace on Apr 20, 2022 12:50:18 GMT -6
I’m listening live and omg to the nail polish bit. I gasped so loud. what is it for those of us who are only keeping up on this thread sorry I was going to come back but got caught up trying to listen to more. The lawyer asked him to describe the time she allegedly broke her nose by him. So he describe the thing. They butt heads in the scuffle and she leaves. Comes back 7 minutes later accusing him of breaking her nose. She’s holding a peace of kleenex that looks red. And says thank you Johnny. Or something like that. He thinks it’s not possible at all. Like zero chance. So he’s trying to help her and asks to see her nose. She doesn’t let him. He sees he throws the paper away. He goes back to the trash can and discovered it’s red nail polish. She’s crazy pants.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 20, 2022 12:50:58 GMT -6
what is it for those of us who are only keeping up on this thread sorry I was going to come back but got caught up trying to listen to more. The lawyer asked him to describe the time she allegedly broke her nose by him. So he describe the thing. They butt heads in the scuffle and she leaves. Comes back 7 minutes later accusing him of breaking her nose. She’s holding a peace of kleenex that looks red. And says thank you Johnny. Or something like that. He thinks it’s not possible at all. Like zero chance. So he’s trying to help her and asks to see her nose. She doesn’t let him. He sees he throws the paper away. He goes back to the trash can and discovered it’s red nail polish. She’s crazy pants. MY GOSH
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Post by joy on Apr 20, 2022 12:57:33 GMT -6
So, Amber’s seen the new Murder on the Nile movie.
(Please someone get this)
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Post by melohdy on Apr 20, 2022 12:59:34 GMT -6
So, Amber’s seen the new Murder on the Nile movie. (Please someone get this) I got you, girl. Solid joke.
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Post by hardlyluck on Apr 20, 2022 13:03:49 GMT -6
She doesn’t even seem like she’s very good at this level of deception. Nail polish to fake blood!?🥴 Calling the police claiming he trashed the place, but she didn’t even bother knocking over a chair?
My kids cover up their lies better than this(not that is something I’m proud of)
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Post by miawallace on Apr 20, 2022 13:20:38 GMT -6
One of the audio conversations that did make me laugh was when Johnny is telling her his son was asked what it was like to have a wife beater as a dad and he’s telling AH that the whole thing is affecting his kids and that she didn’t think about that and she came back with her friends are affected too. Lol what
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Post by miawallace on Apr 20, 2022 13:26:49 GMT -6
His accent sounds transatlantic to me. I know he lived abroad when he was with Vanessa. Amber has a weird accent too.
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Post by miawallace on Apr 20, 2022 13:29:47 GMT -6
Also I don’t use narcissistic PD often but the way Johnny is describing tbe beginning of their relationship and how drastic her change was. I feel like she is a narcissist. He says she was so different and so attentive and kind that first year. Like She was too good to be true. He couldn’t believe they had all these things in common then she totally changed and he even tells her that the person he married never really existed. That it was all a lie. That audio was sad.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 20, 2022 15:40:03 GMT -6
She doesn’t even seem like she’s very good at this level of deception. Nail polish to fake blood!?🥴 Calling the police claiming he trashed the place, but she didn’t even bother knocking over a chair? My kids cover up their lies better than this(not that is something I’m proud of) I believe AH was banking on none of this being public because he is so private. I don't believe she thought JD would release the tapes, camera footage, and allow their doctor and therapist to testify.
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Post by miawallace on Apr 20, 2022 16:02:33 GMT -6
She also withheld medication while he was detoxing.
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Post by bustedbiscuits on Apr 20, 2022 17:48:40 GMT -6
She also withheld medication while he was detoxing. I've been listening most of the day and this made me so angry especially when he described what withdrawls felt like.
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Post by catmom88 on Apr 20, 2022 19:01:02 GMT -6
Two things that stood out today to me...
1. The fake bloody nose tissue that ended up to be nail polish
2. The screaming on the phone like she was being beat when he wasn't anywhere near her
She seems psycho. In my opinion, anyone would have some sort of reaction to that kind of manipulative behavior. I don't think I could keep it completely even keel in that scenario.
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Post by McBenny on Apr 20, 2022 19:53:58 GMT -6
This is a minor thing but it stuck out to me. AH's lawyer during opening statement even cited JD's wino forever tattoo as a testament to him being an alcoholic and drug addict. Anyone from the 90s knows he had Winona forever on his arm for Winona Ryder and he covered her name to wino when they broke up. It was so dumb and just a blatant lie the jury heard.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 21, 2022 6:50:19 GMT -6
This is a minor thing but it stuck out to me. AH's lawyer during opening statement even cited JD's wino forever tattoo as a testament to him being an alcoholic and drug addict. Anyone from the 90s knows he had Winona forever on his arm for Winona Ryder and he covered her name to wino when they broke up. It was so dumb and just a blatant lie the jury heard. Right!!!! but also he isn't disputing his issues so no need to point it out really
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Post by sullivan on Apr 21, 2022 10:02:06 GMT -6
House in habit is a great IG follow for the trial. Definitely biased, but tons of info.
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Post by sullivan on Apr 21, 2022 10:12:23 GMT -6
He’s talking today about a picture she took when he was filming 17 hrs per day and taking opiates, where he was holding ice cream that melted all over him and he passed out/fell asleep.
And her atty says something along the lines of “so you’re saying it’s amber’s fault that the picture was taken” and JD says “we’ll she snapped it.”
And the whole thing is just infuriating. Like he’s not hiding that he’s been under the influence of drugs, he’s not hiding the things about himself that are imperfect. But it’s all the shit surrounding it. Just because he’s used drugs doesn’t mean it’s okay for her to go after his character and make horrible untrue accusations about him. I just am in awe of his composure in all this.
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Post by agm04 on Apr 21, 2022 10:15:31 GMT -6
He’s talking today about a picture she took when he was filming 17 hrs per day and taking opiates, where he was holding ice cream that melted all over him and he passed out/fell asleep. And her atty says something along the lines of “so you’re saying it’s amber’s fault that the picture was taken” and JD says “we’ll she snapped it.” And the whole thing is just infuriating. Like he’s not hiding that he’s been under the influence of drugs, he’s not hiding the things about himself that are imperfect. But it’s all the shit surrounding it. Just because he’s used drugs doesn’t mean it’s okay for her to go after his character and make horrible untrue accusations about him. I just am in awe of his composure in all this. i lol'd at "i wasn't partaking in her festival of ice cream", even though it is totally infuriating. she sucks. house in habit is super biased (and TBH i think a little crazy in other ways), but a fun follow...it's like watching a soap opera. and so many good johnny memories posted.
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Post by agm04 on Apr 21, 2022 10:22:50 GMT -6
omg at this current questioning about a trashed hotel room. they are just straight up dragging him - this has nothing to do with anything.
if you're not watching/listening - they're reading and email he sent after a night of partying, joking about whether it will work the same if he puts on a condom after the fact and wears it around all day.
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Post by miawallace on Apr 21, 2022 10:54:43 GMT -6
I kind of love he said Marijuana was his drug of choice on 4/20.
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Post by sullivan on Apr 21, 2022 11:15:40 GMT -6
He’s talking today about a picture she took when he was filming 17 hrs per day and taking opiates, where he was holding ice cream that melted all over him and he passed out/fell asleep. And her atty says something along the lines of “so you’re saying it’s amber’s fault that the picture was taken” and JD says “we’ll she snapped it.” And the whole thing is just infuriating. Like he’s not hiding that he’s been under the influence of drugs, he’s not hiding the things about himself that are imperfect. But it’s all the shit surrounding it. Just because he’s used drugs doesn’t mean it’s okay for her to go after his character and make horrible untrue accusations about him. I just am in awe of his composure in all this. i lol'd at "i wasn't partaking in her festival of ice cream", even though it is totally infuriating. she sucks. house in habit is super biased (and TBH i think a little crazy in other ways), but a fun follow...it's like watching a soap opera. and so many good johnny memories posted. Lol I liked the ice cream festival comment too. Oh yeah it’s definitely not a fact based place to get your info, but entertaining nonetheless.
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Post by bustedbiscuits on Apr 21, 2022 11:20:03 GMT -6
I am listening today and my thoughts are:
-They are continually hammering that he took drugs and alcohol. It sounds like they are trying to build his character into him taking drugs and alcohol to being violent? -Both of them sound like they were shitty to each other in different ways -I'm now curious to what type of drug/alcohol behavior JD has. If he's partaking these with friends, is he a chill drunk? Chill on drugs? -I'm starting to think AH came into this relation with a "I'll change him" mentality -JD's texts to friends reminds me of how you learn the hard way not to talk shit about your partner to your friends/and how when you're angry, you can say hurtful things about your partner -I am now curious of AH texts to friends, did she also do like he did (e.g. angry venting to friends about relationship)?
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Post by agm04 on Apr 21, 2022 11:26:50 GMT -6
bustedbiscuits they kind of already said that he was a chill drunk/drug taker. all the talk about how no one could believe how much he'd consumed bc you'd never know it.
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