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Post by richard on Feb 26, 2022 16:19:11 GMT -6
I do think it’s smart to stay somewhat skeptical of reports coming from Ukrainian sources re: Russian soldiers, etc.
They have a narrative that they want to circulate too…to keep up their people’s morale, demoralize Russian soldiers, stoke unpopularity with the war back in Russia.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 26, 2022 16:20:37 GMT -6
Similar to this, I’m starting to see mutterings that people who know about this stuff is surprised about the shape Russia’s military is in. I mean, it’s way too early and no one wants to say it out loud but could it be that they are really not prepared and Putin is not well informed or delusional on that point? One reply to a similar tweet was that Russia could be sending ill equipped soldiers in first as fodder and the better ones come later. Which is a horrifying strategy. I think that’s why it’s scary to speculate. What if this is an actual strategy?
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Post by starbuck on Feb 26, 2022 16:27:17 GMT -6
This video basically punched me in the heart. I cannot imagine.
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 16:42:08 GMT -6
One reply to a similar tweet was that Russia could be sending ill equipped soldiers in first as fodder and the better ones come later. Which is a horrifying strategy. I think that’s why it’s scary to speculate. What if this is an actual strategy? This has been in the back of my head since the first day of attacks. There's just no way (in my mind) this long-touted great military machine is as inept and untrained as it looks right now. And it's terrifying the shit out of me.
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Post by mintyblueair on Feb 26, 2022 16:56:01 GMT -6
I think that’s why it’s scary to speculate. What if this is an actual strategy? This has been in the back of my head since the first day of attacks. There's just no way (in my mind) this long-touted great military machine is as inept and untrained as it looks right now. And it's terrifying the shit out of me. I can absolutely buy that Putin has made his military sound better than it actually is. And I can also buy that morale in the Russian army could be very low. And I'm no military expert, but what would the rationale behind this be? Why waste resources like that while giving the rest of the world time to cut off your finances and supply Ukraine with arms? I'm seriously asking, for anyone who can answer.
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Post by elle on Feb 26, 2022 16:56:10 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 17:07:11 GMT -6
This has been in the back of my head since the first day of attacks. There's just no way (in my mind) this long-touted great military machine is as inept and untrained as it looks right now. And it's terrifying the shit out of me. I can absolutely buy that Putin has made his military sound better than it actually is. And I can also buy that morale in the Russian army could be very low. And I'm no military expert, but what would the rationale behind this be? Why waste resources like that while giving the rest of the world time to cut off your finances and supply Ukraine with arms? I'm seriously asking, for anyone who can answer. Not a military expert either, by any means, but it seems sanctions were a fairly predictable action and they'd have anticipated this and moved their money around to places that cannot be cut off, even cashing out large amounts. Other countries supplying arms is also fairly predictable. Putin knows they're not popular on the global stage. So then it becomes a matter of lulling the Ukrainians and world into a false sense of achievement before brutally coming in with the full force of their military and doing what they always intended to do- take Kyiv, remove Zelenskyy, install a puppet regime, and move onto the next target. At least, that's where my mind goes. Eta that if he managed to accomplish his aims with sending in the more "expendable" untrained "soldiers" first, all the better in his mind.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 26, 2022 17:07:44 GMT -6
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elle
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Post by elle on Feb 26, 2022 17:33:31 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Feb 26, 2022 18:07:15 GMT -6
More details here:
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Post by valiente on Feb 26, 2022 18:08:07 GMT -6
I’m getting antsy and feeling like we’re not doing enough. What needs to happen so we can send arms to Ukraine?
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Post by athn64 on Feb 26, 2022 18:09:48 GMT -6
I’m getting antsy and feeling like we’re not doing enough. What needs to happen so we can send arms to Ukraine? Congress needs to pass a resolution allowing aid.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 26, 2022 18:13:58 GMT -6
I’m getting antsy and feeling like we’re not doing enough. What needs to happen so we can send arms to Ukraine? Congress needs to pass a resolution allowing aid. They’re not back until Monday right?
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Post by elle on Feb 26, 2022 18:20:43 GMT -6
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Post by sarahandben108 on Feb 26, 2022 18:21:55 GMT -6
The following organizations are some of the organizations collecting donations for those who would like to personally help. I know I feel helpless right now and giving financial support makes me feel like I am doing something.
International Committee of The Red Cros International Rescue Committee UN Refugee Agency Voices of Children Vostok SOS United Help Ukraine
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Post by cnf on Feb 26, 2022 18:25:25 GMT -6
News footage here is not as sanitized as in the US. There is a not insubstantial amount of footage of dead Russians and it is intense. You must not have wandered on to the r/Ukraine subreddit yet. Loottttttts of dead body pictures. Very disturbing. Noped right off of there.
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Post by athn64 on Feb 26, 2022 18:27:29 GMT -6
That's not a good thing. What's the predicted fallout from this?
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Post by elle on Feb 26, 2022 18:29:46 GMT -6
That's not a good thing. What's the predicted fallout from this? I have no idea but I'm concerned (and not in a Susan Collins way*). *dark humor once again to try to cope 🥴
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Post by sarahandben108 on Feb 26, 2022 18:38:31 GMT -6
That's not a good thing. What's the predicted fallout from this? I have no idea but I'm concerned (and not in a Susan Collins way*). *dark humor once again to try to cope 🥴 Sorry, but I laughed. Susan Collins is my senator (I did not vote for her) and that was funny.
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Post by babybean on Feb 26, 2022 19:12:31 GMT -6
I’m seeing a lot of talk about Black Ukrainians being disallowed from getting on transit leaving the country for safety. Including Black women and children. I’m not surprised, but this has my stomach in knots.
Eta: some saying they’ve gotten on and been forcibly removed.
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Post by oreobitsy on Feb 26, 2022 19:14:21 GMT -6
I wanted to thank you all for being careful and helpful with the sources and posts you have shared. It helps navigate the news better. I also so appreciate the insights and answers to questions. This is a good corner of the internet.
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Post by clucky on Feb 26, 2022 19:21:51 GMT -6
*video and photos related to same instance*
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Post by trueblue on Feb 26, 2022 19:25:07 GMT -6
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Post by trueblue on Feb 26, 2022 19:38:59 GMT -6
philo, my very limited understanding is that swift is basically like an old fashioned telephone operator board- they connect one bank to another so a financial transaction can be made. By taking Russian banks off the board there’s way to make that connection so no 20th/21st century to move money to or from or through any account that exists at one of the banned banks,
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Post by willow on Feb 26, 2022 19:39:42 GMT -6
I was seeing that a big air strike is expected in Kyiv tonight. Messages to residents to seek shelter Asap etc. Even seeing that in my safe little house just is so scary. Is it weird to feel guilty for feeling so anxious when I’m completely safe? Ugh. I pray so much that when this is over, Ukraine has prevailed and Putin severely punished.
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 19:40:51 GMT -6
I’m seeing a lot of talk about Black Ukrainians being disallowed from getting on transit leaving the country for safety. Including Black women and children. I’m not surprised, but this has my stomach in knots. Eta: some saying they’ve gotten on and been forcibly removed. Between this, the absolutely abhorrent words of the Bulgarian Prime Minister, and how different the world has reacted to this conflict vs conflicts in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East, there really is a despicable amount of racist behavior/ thought that needs to be addressed.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 26, 2022 19:54:38 GMT -6
I’m seeing a lot of talk about Black Ukrainians being disallowed from getting on transit leaving the country for safety. Including Black women and children. I’m not surprised, but this has my stomach in knots. Eta: some saying they’ve gotten on and been forcibly removed. Between this, the absolutely abhorrent words of the Bulgarian Prime Minister, and how different the world has reacted to this conflict vs conflicts in Syria and elsewhere in the Middle East, there really is a despicable amount of racist behavior/ thought that needs to be addressed. Yes. We have so much work to do
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Post by cnf on Feb 26, 2022 20:00:02 GMT -6
In a weird spot of positive news, there are preliminary reports that the 13 defenders of Snake Island are still alive.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 26, 2022 20:03:00 GMT -6
There's a not small part of me hoping as Russia slides deeper into financial shit and if the push into Ukraine can be held off long enough, someone around Putin will...just...decide it would be better for the country if they just dropped him in the middle of a meeting or whatever.
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Post by lucylou on Feb 26, 2022 20:04:38 GMT -6
There's a not small part of me hoping as Russia slides deeper into financial shit and if the push into Ukraine can be held off long enough, someone around Putin will...just...decide it would be better for the country if they just dropped him in the middle of a meeting or whatever. I’ve had similar thoughts that I’ve watched too much Blacklist and Homeland because I’m like, surely someone’s got a double agent on the inside that can take him out?!
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