Ls2012
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Feb 26, 2022 10:23:01 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 10:23:01 GMT -6
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starbuck
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Feb 26, 2022 10:33:59 GMT -6
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Post by starbuck on Feb 26, 2022 10:33:59 GMT -6
Someone shared this article with me. I'm not familiar with this defense industry outlet. But this caught my eye. “If you watch interrogations of the captured Russian servicemen soldiers that are invading Ukraine right now, many of them, if not most of them…they say they have not been informed by their leadership why and where they're going,” Prokopenko said on a German Marshall Fund program. A Russian veterans group called the Committee for Soldiers' Mothers echoed that claim on Friday, adding that Russian conscripts are writing home in shock at finding themselves on the frontlines—where Russian law says only volunteer troops are supposed to be. www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/02/russia-cracks-down-harder-media-facebook-protests-sweep-russia/362478/
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Feb 26, 2022 10:46:56 GMT -6
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Post by goldenbird on Feb 26, 2022 10:46:56 GMT -6
I mean...if it comes to the ISS needs repair or will actually fall out of orbit, I would assume there will be an exception made to get parts to it. It would be an insane amount of effort and money to get a new space station up there. So I don't think that's actually going to happen.
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Feb 26, 2022 10:49:31 GMT -6
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Post by goldenbird on Feb 26, 2022 10:49:31 GMT -6
And I hope I'm not wrong about that because I can't let my mind go there.
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Ls2012
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Feb 26, 2022 10:53:17 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 10:53:17 GMT -6
I don't know how much faith I'd place in Erdogan for the long haul, but for now this is a big deal.
Zelenskyy confirms Turkey is blocking passage into the Black Sea for R's ships.
Eta: looks like he may have said this prematurely. Turkey/ Erdogan have not confirmed this.
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Post by dc2london on Feb 26, 2022 11:06:58 GMT -6
Someone shared this article with me. I'm not familiar with this defense industry outlet. But this caught my eye. “If you watch interrogations of the captured Russian servicemen soldiers that are invading Ukraine right now, many of them, if not most of them…they say they have not been informed by their leadership why and where they're going,” Prokopenko said on a German Marshall Fund program. A Russian veterans group called the Committee for Soldiers' Mothers echoed that claim on Friday, adding that Russian conscripts are writing home in shock at finding themselves on the frontlines—where Russian law says only volunteer troops are supposed to be. www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/02/russia-cracks-down-harder-media-facebook-protests-sweep-russia/362478/I trust Defense One
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Post by cnf on Feb 26, 2022 11:07:43 GMT -6
This is circulating my FB right now “Just in case you think Russia is on the other side of the globe” is the caption Well, Sarah Palin can see Russia from her house, so this checks out.
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richard
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Feb 26, 2022 11:19:38 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Feb 26, 2022 11:19:38 GMT -6
Someone shared this article with me. I'm not familiar with this defense industry outlet. But this caught my eye. “If you watch interrogations of the captured Russian servicemen soldiers that are invading Ukraine right now, many of them, if not most of them…they say they have not been informed by their leadership why and where they're going,” Prokopenko said on a German Marshall Fund program. A Russian veterans group called the Committee for Soldiers' Mothers echoed that claim on Friday, adding that Russian conscripts are writing home in shock at finding themselves on the frontlines—where Russian law says only volunteer troops are supposed to be. www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/02/russia-cracks-down-harder-media-facebook-protests-sweep-russia/362478/I’ve followed DefenseOne people on Twitter for a long time, they’re legit.
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richard
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Feb 26, 2022 11:33:37 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Feb 26, 2022 11:33:37 GMT -6
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Ls2012
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Feb 26, 2022 11:54:48 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 11:54:48 GMT -6
I know the hacker group Anonymous is super questionable, but I'm enjoying thinking they're out there trying to cripple R's tech.
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Feb 26, 2022 13:23:09 GMT -6
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Post by lucylou on Feb 26, 2022 13:23:09 GMT -6
I wish with all the troops around the boarder, that they could take “volunteers” to fight with Ukraine, without making it official like, “we’re sending troops in.” Zelenskyy said if anyone wanted to come fight, he would give them a weapon.
I know it’s really easy for me to sit safe in my home saying, “get in there,” but I have several friends who are former military expressing that they wish they could go fight. I have to believe there are people in that area with the same thinking.
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Post by dc2london on Feb 26, 2022 13:38:44 GMT -6
I wish with all the troops around the boarder, that they could take “volunteers” to fight with Ukraine, without making it official like, “we’re sending troops in.” Zelenskyy said if anyone wanted to come fight, he would give them a weapon. I know it’s really easy for me to sit safe in my home saying, “get in there,” but I have several friends who are former military expressing that they wish they could go fight. I have to believe there are people in that area with the same thinking. Apparently there are Israelis going to fight with Ukraine
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richard
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Post by richard on Feb 26, 2022 13:43:52 GMT -6
I wish with all the troops around the boarder, that they could take “volunteers” to fight with Ukraine, without making it official like, “we’re sending troops in.” Zelenskyy said if anyone wanted to come fight, he would give them a weapon. I know it’s really easy for me to sit safe in my home saying, “get in there,” but I have several friends who are former military expressing that they wish they could go fight. I have to believe there are people in that area with the same thinking. Apparently there are Israelis going to fight with Ukraine And Proud Boys going to "fight" with Russia. "Fight" in quotations because they will probably just LARP around in Poland.
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Feb 26, 2022 13:49:29 GMT -6
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Post by origami on Feb 26, 2022 13:49:29 GMT -6
Apparently there are Israelis going to fight with Ukraine And Proud Boys going to "fight" with Russia. "Fight" in quotations because they will probably just LARP around in Poland. Oh friend, they don't have passports. They'll just LARP around portland.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 26, 2022 14:05:55 GMT -6
Apparently there are Israelis going to fight with Ukraine And Proud Boys going to "fight" with Russia. "Fight" in quotations because they will probably just LARP around in Poland. That's if Poland actually lets them in.....otherwise they'll be LARP'ng around airports
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lucylou
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Feb 26, 2022 14:14:25 GMT -6
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Post by lucylou on Feb 26, 2022 14:14:25 GMT -6
I wish with all the troops around the boarder, that they could take “volunteers” to fight with Ukraine, without making it official like, “we’re sending troops in.” Zelenskyy said if anyone wanted to come fight, he would give them a weapon. I know it’s really easy for me to sit safe in my home saying, “get in there,” but I have several friends who are former military expressing that they wish they could go fight. I have to believe there are people in that area with the same thinking. Apparently there are Israelis going to fight with Ukraine I hadn’t heard this; thank you for sharing! I can’t help thinking that we can give them all the weapons in the world but if they don’t have the numbers, it’s not going to do much good. Especially if a large portion of their fighters have never operated a weapon.
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Feb 26, 2022 14:33:32 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 26, 2022 14:33:32 GMT -6
News footage here is not as sanitized as in the US. There is a not insubstantial amount of footage of dead Russians and it is intense.
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Feb 26, 2022 14:35:40 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Feb 26, 2022 14:35:40 GMT -6
lucylou I read somewhere that Ukraine has mandatory military service so most fighters should theoretically at least know how to handle a firearm. Not sure about bigger weapons, though.
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elle
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Feb 26, 2022 14:48:33 GMT -6
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Post by elle on Feb 26, 2022 14:48:33 GMT -6
News footage here is not as sanitized as in the US. There is a not insubstantial amount of footage of dead Russians and it is intense. I'm so sad for the loss of life. And to think that many (most?) didn't realize they'd actually be fighting is just criminal. I'm heartbroken for everyone caught up in Putin's mad crusade.
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Ls2012
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Feb 26, 2022 15:07:55 GMT -6
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Post by Ls2012 on Feb 26, 2022 15:07:55 GMT -6
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Feb 26, 2022 15:10:10 GMT -6
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Post by starbuck on Feb 26, 2022 15:10:10 GMT -6
My heart is in my throat at the thought of other nations joining the fight. Both because I am terrified for Ukraine and they need help and because I am afraid of this exploding into WWIII.
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Post by jkjacq on Feb 26, 2022 15:24:02 GMT -6
News footage here is not as sanitized as in the US. There is a not insubstantial amount of footage of dead Russians and it is intense. I heard one reporter or interviewee say the streets were littered with bodies. So I can only imagine what the actual footage
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Feb 26, 2022 15:29:06 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Feb 26, 2022 15:29:06 GMT -6
Someone shared this article with me. I'm not familiar with this defense industry outlet. But this caught my eye. “If you watch interrogations of the captured Russian servicemen soldiers that are invading Ukraine right now, many of them, if not most of them…they say they have not been informed by their leadership why and where they're going,” Prokopenko said on a German Marshall Fund program. A Russian veterans group called the Committee for Soldiers' Mothers echoed that claim on Friday, adding that Russian conscripts are writing home in shock at finding themselves on the frontlines—where Russian law says only volunteer troops are supposed to be. www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/02/russia-cracks-down-harder-media-facebook-protests-sweep-russia/362478/Similar to this, I’m starting to see mutterings that people who know about this stuff is surprised about the shape Russia’s military is in. I mean, it’s way too early and no one wants to say it out loud but could it be that they are really not prepared and Putin is not well informed or delusional on that point?
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Feb 26, 2022 15:31:57 GMT -6
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Post by jaygee on Feb 26, 2022 15:31:57 GMT -6
My gosh
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Feb 26, 2022 15:34:38 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 26, 2022 15:34:38 GMT -6
My heart is in my throat at the thought of other nations joining the fight. Both because I am terrified for Ukraine and they need help and because I am afraid of this exploding into WWIII. This article makes it seem we are going into Ukraine but Portuguese news suggests support at the borders.
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Feb 26, 2022 15:39:47 GMT -6
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Post by blurnette989 on Feb 26, 2022 15:39:47 GMT -6
News footage here is not as sanitized as in the US. There is a not insubstantial amount of footage of dead Russians and it is intense. I heard one reporter or interviewee say the streets were littered with bodies. So I can only imagine what the actual footage yes. I was caught off guard with the number of bodies.
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Post by hawkeye2015 on Feb 26, 2022 15:45:08 GMT -6
The opposition leader in Belarus named herself the country's national leader after they helped Russia.
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Feb 26, 2022 16:01:09 GMT -6
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Post by enchanted on Feb 26, 2022 16:01:09 GMT -6
Can you imagine getting a phone call from your kid who has become a POW and not even knowing s/he had been sent to war?
ETA: And not because you and your kid aren't close. They're calling home to Mom and Dad when caught. You didn't know because of the dictator running the country who is completely delusional and out of control.
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Post by alittlebitalexis on Feb 26, 2022 16:14:02 GMT -6
Someone shared this article with me. I'm not familiar with this defense industry outlet. But this caught my eye. “If you watch interrogations of the captured Russian servicemen soldiers that are invading Ukraine right now, many of them, if not most of them…they say they have not been informed by their leadership why and where they're going,” Prokopenko said on a German Marshall Fund program. A Russian veterans group called the Committee for Soldiers' Mothers echoed that claim on Friday, adding that Russian conscripts are writing home in shock at finding themselves on the frontlines—where Russian law says only volunteer troops are supposed to be. www.defenseone.com/technology/2022/02/russia-cracks-down-harder-media-facebook-protests-sweep-russia/362478/Similar to this, I’m starting to see mutterings that people who know about this stuff is surprised about the shape Russia’s military is in. I mean, it’s way too early and no one wants to say it out loud but could it be that they are really not prepared and Putin is not well informed or delusional on that point? One reply to a similar tweet was that Russia could be sending ill equipped soldiers in first as fodder and the better ones come later. Which is a horrifying strategy.
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richard
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Feb 26, 2022 16:15:12 GMT -6
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Post by richard on Feb 26, 2022 16:15:12 GMT -6
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