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Post by jaygee on Aug 17, 2021 21:48:26 GMT -6
Oh and I got my recall ballot and H and I have been laughing on and off all day about what a shit show it is. I hope this mess fails and we can move on, but what a fucking disaster of a way to vote on the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world.
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Post by elle on Aug 17, 2021 21:53:09 GMT -6
Oh and I got my recall ballot and H and I have been laughing on and off all day about what a shit show it is. I hope this mess fails and we can move on, but what a fucking disaster of a way to vote on the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. It's truly embarrassing.
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Post by jaygee on Aug 17, 2021 22:02:32 GMT -6
Oh and I got my recall ballot and H and I have been laughing on and off all day about what a shit show it is. I hope this mess fails and we can move on, but what a fucking disaster of a way to vote on the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. It's truly embarrassing. I swear some of the names on there are fake. What in the world? Are you leaving question 2 blank? I don’t like that strategy from the CA Dems. I mean, I don’t want any of these people but I’m going to mark a dem. I feel like I got burned on that last time. I just voted no to recall and next thing I know the terminator is our governor.
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Post by elle on Aug 17, 2021 22:30:21 GMT -6
I swear some of the names on there are fake. What in the world? Are you leaving question 2 blank? I don’t like that strategy from the CA Dems. I mean, I don’t want any of these people but I’m going to mark a dem. I feel like I got burned on that last time. I just voted no to recall and next thing I know the terminator is our governor. As much as it pains me I'm probably voting for Kevin Paffrath in question 2 as he's leading in the Dem polls. It's absolutely a "heeeeellllll no to Larry Elder" vote instead of a vote for him though. I really hope enough people vote no on the recall, but I cannot leave it to chance that we'll be stuck with someone absolutely in-fucking-sane (with ties to the Moonies and who promoted/helped Steven Miller in his career).
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 6:31:44 GMT -6
Fucker Carlson is suggesting that the people of Afghanistan rejected its government and embraced the Taliban (not what happened at all) because they didn't like what the US brought to them. Which to him was "gender studies" and also they "didn't believe men can get pregnant." www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/08/18/taliban-fox-news-gop-take-this-dlt-vpx.cnnI dont even know where to begin. He's such a hateful man.
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Post by willow on Aug 18, 2021 7:05:01 GMT -6
richard The entire development of that story is so ridiculous. Her stubborn refusal to step down after so many in the GQP called for it is also something. I read in an article related to all of that, that Gazelka is eyeing a run against Walz. I mean it doesn’t matter who his opponent is, they would all likely be horrific but Lord above if Gazelka was our governor. I don’t even know. There are several young women GOP interns/staffers coming out now that Carnahan harassed and bullied them, spreading lies about them, ignoring their sexual harassment complaints, etc. In one case, she outed one of them within the party. She seems extremely toxic and vindictive. Like when all the other Trumpers are speaking out against you, you know it has to be bad. Yikes. Yeah, it seems the writing is on the wall for her.
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Post by willow on Aug 18, 2021 7:05:50 GMT -6
Fucker Carlson is suggesting that the people of Afghanistan rejected its government and embraced the Taliban (not what happened at all) because they didn't like what the US brought to them. Which to him was "gender studies" and also they "didn't believe men can get pregnant." www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/08/18/taliban-fox-news-gop-take-this-dlt-vpx.cnnI dont even know where to begin. He's such a hateful man. I admit I have not watched the video but...what? Men that were born male...can't get pregnant. Does Tucker Carlson think they can?
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 7:07:20 GMT -6
Fucker Carlson is suggesting that the people of Afghanistan rejected its government and embraced the Taliban (not what happened at all) because they didn't like what the US brought to them. Which to him was "gender studies" and also they "didn't believe men can get pregnant." www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/08/18/taliban-fox-news-gop-take-this-dlt-vpx.cnnI dont even know where to begin. He's such a hateful man. I admit I have not watched the video but...what? Men that were born male...can't get pregnant. Does Tucker Carlson think they can? His argument is that woke folk in the US tried to bring things like gender studies and gender fluidity to Afghanistan and they said fuck it, we hate this, bring back the Taliban.
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Post by willow on Aug 18, 2021 7:08:24 GMT -6
I admit I have not watched the video but...what? Men that were born male...can't get pregnant. Does Tucker Carlson think they can? His argument is that woke folk in the US tried to bring things like gender studies and gender fluidity to Afghanistan and they said fuck it, we hate this, bring back the Taliban. Ahh I see. The idea that the US Military is super woke is....a statement.
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Post by richard on Aug 18, 2021 7:08:41 GMT -6
I admit I have not watched the video but...what? Men that were born male...can't get pregnant. Does Tucker Carlson think they can? His argument is that woke folk in the US tried to bring things like gender studies and gender fluidity to Afghanistan and they said fuck it, we hate this, bring back the Taliban. Yes, that woke institution, the US armed forces.
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Post by richard on Aug 18, 2021 7:08:52 GMT -6
His argument is that woke folk in the US tried to bring things like gender studies and gender fluidity to Afghanistan and they said fuck it, we hate this, bring back the Taliban. Ahh I see. The idea that the US Military is super woke is....a statement. Lol, jinx.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 7:11:19 GMT -6
His argument is that woke folk in the US tried to bring things like gender studies and gender fluidity to Afghanistan and they said fuck it, we hate this, bring back the Taliban. Yes, that woke institution, the US armed forces. I've ready seen dudes on the right trying to argue that if military leaders were less focused on racial issues and, you know, that CRT boogieman they would have done better managing this withdrawal.
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Post by enchanted on Aug 18, 2021 7:43:31 GMT -6
Fucker Carlson is suggesting that the people of Afghanistan rejected its government and embraced the Taliban (not what happened at all) because they didn't like what the US brought to them. Which to him was "gender studies" and also they "didn't believe men can get pregnant." www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/08/18/taliban-fox-news-gop-take-this-dlt-vpx.cnnI dont even know where to begin. He's such a hateful man. While at the same time, he's warning that we're going to be "invaded" by Afghan refugees escaping from the Taliban. ETA: I didn't catch the clip or go beyond the headline, but not in the least surprised. He'll say whatever hateful thing will whip up his followers.
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Post by overboard on Aug 18, 2021 8:04:36 GMT -6
I do not have the words to describe how much I loathe fucker Carlson. His asshole followers hassled my brother at work for weeks after he targeted his place of employment. I wish him nothing but the worst, the disgusting piece of shit.
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Post by overboard on Aug 18, 2021 8:07:23 GMT -6
This is so accurate
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Post by notexactly on Aug 18, 2021 8:33:48 GMT -6
What really annoyed me was seeing comments on that first plane picture full of evacuees. "Where are their masks?"...like really people?! I can guarantee you they were all more concerned about getting tf out of there alive. I hate the internet sometimes.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 8:35:58 GMT -6
What really annoyed me was seeing comments on that first plane picture full of evacuees. "Where are their masks?"...like really people?! I can guarantee you they were all more concerned about getting tf out of there alive. I hate the internet sometimes. There can be no nuance, nor rational thought with that crowd
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Post by dc2london on Aug 18, 2021 9:45:02 GMT -6
Oh and I got my recall ballot and H and I have been laughing on and off all day about what a shit show it is. I hope this mess fails and we can move on, but what a fucking disaster of a way to vote on the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. I wish I didn't have to worry about this
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Post by jaygee on Aug 18, 2021 9:48:11 GMT -6
Oh and I got my recall ballot and H and I have been laughing on and off all day about what a shit show it is. I hope this mess fails and we can move on, but what a fucking disaster of a way to vote on the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. I wish I didn't have to worry about this I’m insanely worried about it based on the polling numbers. And last time it happened I was not worried at all and then the recall passed.
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Post by blurnette989 on Aug 18, 2021 10:13:57 GMT -6
I swear some of the names on there are fake. What in the world? Are you leaving question 2 blank? I don’t like that strategy from the CA Dems. I mean, I don’t want any of these people but I’m going to mark a dem. I feel like I got burned on that last time. I just voted no to recall and next thing I know the terminator is our governor. i just found out that i have met one of the candidates. He was just my friends dad when I met him. Now he is running for the recall. Small world.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Aug 18, 2021 10:14:45 GMT -6
Oh and I got my recall ballot and H and I have been laughing on and off all day about what a shit show it is. I hope this mess fails and we can move on, but what a fucking disaster of a way to vote on the leader of the 5th largest economy in the world. I was actually going to make a thread asking for my fellow CA folks to talk over the ballot. I got my email that mine was sent so I should get it any day now.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 13:26:20 GMT -6
Milley just said we have the capabilities to "do other things" to get folks out if needed. But says that's a policy decision to extract someone and they will do it if told to.
Lots of questions about what happens to folks outside of Kabul. Answers, to me, don't seem very clear right now. So much of our plan in Afghanistan seems to rely on the Taliban cooperating. Which, yiiiiikes.
I get that this is very fluid and tense so I'm not trying to diss military here, in case it needs to be said. This is just...a lot.
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 18, 2021 13:26:53 GMT -6
So um we do not have the capability to extract people outside of Kabul is what I just heard Lloyd Austin say.
Including Americans
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 18, 2021 13:27:55 GMT -6
starbuck, Did I just hear wrong? Because it really sounded like we DONT have the ability to get someone from the far reaches
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 13:34:34 GMT -6
starbuck , Did I just hear wrong? Because it really sounded like we DONT have the ability to get someone from the far reaches I thought that's what he said too. I was hoping I was wrong.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 13:38:21 GMT -6
ooooo good question
You keep saying that you didn't expect the gov't to fall so quickly but Taliban offensive began weeks ago. So why didn't you move then? Also, state Dept said we can't provide safe passage is that because of the Taliban?
Lloyd Austin: We are trying to reinforce to Taliban that if someone has credentials they need to be let thru checkpoints and that is going better. our main priority is processing folks in the airport currently and get them on planes. There have been unfortunate incidents and we are working to get safe passage.
No answer as to the first question yet.
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Post by starbuck on Aug 18, 2021 13:39:19 GMT -6
Asks again about pushing harder to get people out a month ago.
Milley: We can look back later right now we need to get people out. Plenty of times to assess. not now.
I don't like that.
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Post by jkjacq on Aug 18, 2021 13:40:17 GMT -6
Miley looks like he hasnt slept in days
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Post by sherminator on Aug 18, 2021 14:23:22 GMT -6
This is very difficult to see. The images of civilians attempting to flee is so heartbreaking and triggers a ton of emotions. I'm not saying Biden is to blame; it is definitely spread over more than one administration, but I think for me, his silence on this so far has not been a good look. We would most definitely say the same had Trump been in charge (and I absolutely despise the guy to be VERY clear). I don't think it's bad to want the troops out of Afghanistan, but it was so rushed. Couldn't we have pulled out slower and also left a small force there to keep it stabilized? I’m old enough the fall of Saigon photos are a relevant comparison in some ways. All the loss to end in more loss is so hard for me to watch.
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Post by willow on Aug 18, 2021 14:32:57 GMT -6
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