Tlex
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Post by Tlex on Aug 3, 2021 13:31:00 GMT -6
Watching an old episode of master chef jr with my girls and my oldest asked why no one was wearing masks, and I explained it was filmed before Covid existed. D2 said she doesn’t remember before covid or masks. 😯 She was just three when this started and she’s 5 now so I guess that’s possible.
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sewf
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Post by sewf on Aug 3, 2021 13:32:55 GMT -6
So many parents bringing in their unmasked children into my bookstore. It makes me so uncomfortable and sad for those kids. That's an easy tell that their parents aren't vaccinated, either. Which is a whole other level of sad. But another example of how adults just cannot adult and haven't since Memorial Day weekend '20. Yeah, if a parent comes in with masked kids, I assume that the parent is vaccinated, mask or not. If the kids come in unmasked, it's pretty likely no one is.
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elodin
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Post by elodin on Aug 3, 2021 13:41:03 GMT -6
I am routinely flabbergasted at the amount of young kids that aren’t masked indoors. I know I shouldn’t be, but I am. People are so fucking stupid. Very very smart people can’t seem to get it through their minds that delta covid is not the same as last years covid, which was low risk to kids. I think it’s just mental fatigue? Inconsistent messaging? I dunno. True true.
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Cher
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Post by Cher on Aug 3, 2021 13:41:07 GMT -6
I’ve let my kid go in places without a mask in the past and I’m definitely vaccinated. Literally had an IEP meeting today about my kid and how a mask triggers sensory and speech issues for him. According to my district’s special Ed advisors that were in the meeting, it’s a huge issue that they’re facing right now with younger kids. You don’t need to feel sad for my kid, I’m making decisions in his best interest.
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Post by kmkd on Aug 3, 2021 13:47:58 GMT -6
That's an easy tell that their parents aren't vaccinated, either. Which is a whole other level of sad. But another example of how adults just cannot adult and haven't since Memorial Day weekend '20. Yeah, if a parent comes in with masked kids, I assume that the parent is vaccinated, mask or not. If the kids come in unmasked, it's pretty likely no one is. This bothers me. You can make whatever assumptions you want but it’s actually not accurate. My county has an 80% vaccination rate and there’s plenty of kids places not wearing masks. Including mine at times. But yeah go ahead feeling sad for them.
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gingy
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Post by gingy on Aug 3, 2021 13:51:06 GMT -6
Yeah I have a lot of feelings about those assumptions.
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sewf
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Post by sewf on Aug 3, 2021 13:52:18 GMT -6
I’ve let my kid go in places without a mask in the past and I’m definitely vaccinated. Literally had an IEP meeting today about my kid and how a mask triggers sensory and speech issues for him. According to my district’s special Ed advisors that were in the meeting, it’s a huge issue that they’re facing right now with younger kids. You don’t need to feel sad for my kid, I’m making decisions in his best interest. I'm sorry. I obviously have complicated feelings on this. But I will check my judgement in the future. Part of my feelings come from being in Missouri and knowing that most of the people I interact with in my retail location are not vaccinated. My city has a 39.4% vaccinated rate, and I am scared for my family's health and safety, as well as my own when I have seen the people argue and belittle those of us having to enforce mask mandates. But that definitely should not be my first thought with every kid in the store.
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Post by SweetPotato on Aug 3, 2021 13:53:41 GMT -6
That's an easy tell that their parents aren't vaccinated, either. Which is a whole other level of sad. But another example of how adults just cannot adult and haven't since Memorial Day weekend '20. Yeah, if a parent comes in with masked kids, I assume that the parent is vaccinated, mask or not. If the kids come in unmasked, it's pretty likely no one is. I wouldn’t assume that. I’ve been in stores unmasked with my kid. A lot. Delta is a different animal so that is changing, but I spent most of the summer generally unmasked with my DS. Fully vaccinated since April. ETA tagging MelanieCarmichael since I feel bad sewf is taking the heat
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tookie
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Post by tookie on Aug 3, 2021 13:56:08 GMT -6
My husband was exposed AGAIN at work 😭
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brux
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Post by brux on Aug 3, 2021 13:56:53 GMT -6
Oh, I've definitely assumed that maskless kids + maskless adults indoors means the adults aren't vaxxed.
Maybe I shouldn't have, but I do.
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Post by shamycooler on Aug 3, 2021 13:59:09 GMT -6
I am routinely flabbergasted at the amount of young kids that aren’t masked indoors. I know I shouldn’t be, but I am. People are so fucking stupid. DD told me her dad and stepmom think mask wearing is harmful for kids. She wears one while at his house but he thinks it’s dumb apparently.
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brux
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Post by brux on Aug 3, 2021 13:59:57 GMT -6
Yeah, if a parent comes in with masked kids, I assume that the parent is vaccinated, mask or not. If the kids come in unmasked, it's pretty likely no one is. I wouldn’t assume that. I’ve been in stores unmasked with my kid. A lot. Delta is a different animal so that is changing, but I spent most of the summer generally unmasked with my DS. Fully vaccinated since April. ETA tagging MelanieCarmichael since I feel bad sewf is taking the heat Can I ask why you don't have him wear a mask inside? To me, it feels like the only shield I have to protect DS and let him get out of being locked in the house. I don't trust strangers around me to be vaccinated to keep him safe that way. Maybe it's just how COVID anxiety has gotten me fucked up.
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brux
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Post by brux on Aug 3, 2021 14:01:44 GMT -6
I know this is personal choices for each family, and I very much do not want this to turn into some brawl over who is the best and most safe, though, so maybe it's a topic I should keep my lips zipped on.
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Dr. Cox
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Post by Dr. Cox on Aug 3, 2021 14:01:44 GMT -6
I’ve never taken my kids inside without a mask. They can’t get vaccinated. I guess I don’t understand why people were not masking their kids? I’m not trying to be judgy, I’m genuinely confused.
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Post by filingjointly on Aug 3, 2021 14:02:00 GMT -6
My DD2’s test was negative! So definitely just some random virus.
Now let’s just hope she didn’t pick up Covid in the ER where she was being tested for Covid.
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teraiin
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Post by teraiin on Aug 3, 2021 14:02:25 GMT -6
The baby has spiked a fever and I had to go pick him up from daycare. He tested negative for COVID last weekend. How many COVID tests will he need over the duration of a cold? It’s such a weird time, man. But yea, I know it’s possible he picked up CV in that time but I’m hoping it’s still just the same cold. Ugh I’m sorry. Fx for another negative (I’m assuming you need to test him again?)
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Cher
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Post by Cher on Aug 3, 2021 14:05:03 GMT -6
I’ve let my kid go in places without a mask in the past and I’m definitely vaccinated. Literally had an IEP meeting today about my kid and how a mask triggers sensory and speech issues for him. According to my district’s special Ed advisors that were in the meeting, it’s a huge issue that they’re facing right now with younger kids. You don’t need to feel sad for my kid, I’m making decisions in his best interest. I'm sorry. I obviously have complicated feelings on this. But I will check my judgement in the future. Part of my feelings come from being in Missouri and knowing that most of the people I interact with in my retail location are not vaccinated. My city has a 39.4% vaccinated rate, and I am scared for my family's health and safety, as well as my own when I have seen the people argue and belittle those of us having to enforce mask mandates. But that definitely should not be my first thought with every kid in the store. Missouri is a fucking shit show and I can’t imagine how I would feel if I lived there. I operate from a very fact-based approach. I check positivities and hospitalizations every morning, I follow other countries (fingers crossed we trend like UK) and I base how I operate according to that. When positivities were nonexistent, I let my kids eat inside, take off their mask if they bought a drink at a store, or even just because with my youngest I know the sensory component of wearing a mask triggers him, then causes pooling of salvia (which essentially renders the mask useless). Now we’re back to masking indoors when we run an errand due to the recent uptick in numbers. But if my kid was having a totally bad day, I don’t know that I would lay down and die over it, especially since as I said before, actual specialists have said his masks are essentially useless because of his pooling issues. But my decisions for my kids are based on actual facts and their needs. It’s not going to ruin my life that some stranger in Starbucks feels bad for my kids or whatever, but maybe it’s helpful for people to know the thought process that goes behind my decisions. Not everyone without a mask is anti-vaccine/Biden/science/whatever.
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Dr. Cox
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Post by Dr. Cox on Aug 3, 2021 14:05:22 GMT -6
I know this is personal choices for each family, and I very much do not want this to turn into some brawl over who is the best and most safe, though, so maybe it's a topic I should keep my lips zipped on. You’re right, I have no desire to argue about this.
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Post by SweetPotato on Aug 3, 2021 14:06:05 GMT -6
I wouldn’t assume that. I’ve been in stores unmasked with my kid. A lot. Delta is a different animal so that is changing, but I spent most of the summer generally unmasked with my DS. Fully vaccinated since April. ETA tagging MelanieCarmichael since I feel bad sewf is taking the heat Can I ask why you don't have him wear a mask inside? To me, it feels like the only shield I have to protect DS and let him get out of being locked in the house. I don't trust strangers around me to be vaccinated to keep him safe that way. Maybe it's just how COVID anxiety has gotten me fucked up. I have kind of just played it by ear this summer, but if it’s a big open store that isn’t crowded I’ve felt comfortable. Because we aren’t really getting close to anyone and we’re still vigilant about washing/sanitizing hands. His camps have been full time masked all summer so he does have it on most of the time. That said - Delta makes me very nervous with the way it’s transmitting to kids more so we’ve started back up.
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Post by MelanieCarmichael on Aug 3, 2021 14:06:57 GMT -6
Oh, I've definitely assumed that maskless kids + maskless adults indoors means the adults aren't vaxxed. Maybe I shouldn't have, but I do. Maybe I shouldn't have assumed either, but these are crazy times and with a prevalent variant and more on the horizon. If you are vaccinated, then I'm not talking about you, but if you are and your unable-to-be-vaxxed-yet kids aren't masked indoors, I'm not understanding that. But again, I'm CFNBC, so maybe I'll just bow out, too, because what do I know?
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elodin
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Post by elodin on Aug 3, 2021 14:07:43 GMT -6
I trust no bitch when it comes to other adults out in public being vaccinated. Vaccination rates in my area aren’t great. My kids don’t have an issue wearing them the once or twice a week we run errands. They wore them all day long at school. I just don’t understand taking the risk I guess. It’s a simple thing most (yes, I know not all) kids deal with just fine.
I’m not fighting about it. It is what it is.
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Post by filingjointly on Aug 3, 2021 14:07:46 GMT -6
There are too many kids unmasked here for all of them to have a sensory or speech issue, etc.(which I would understand) So I’ve been doing my fair share of side eyes. But schools aren’t even masked here this year and there’s a pretty large percent of the population that is anti-mask.
My kids don’t go many places but have always been masked as have I. I’m also just in a very angry mood lately because two of my kids are higher risk. So I’m sure that contributes to the side eyes.
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gingy
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Post by gingy on Aug 3, 2021 14:08:28 GMT -6
DS goes almost nowhere outside of school, so I don't know why I care. But during our 8 am Sunday Target runs when we're two of ten people in the store, he is maskless while he eats his cake pop in the cart and leaves me the fuck alone.
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Post by SweetPotato on Aug 3, 2021 14:08:48 GMT -6
I’ve never taken my kids inside without a mask. They can’t get vaccinated. I guess I don’t understand why people were not masking their kids? I’m not trying to be judgy, I’m genuinely confused. Until a couple weeks ago cases were so low there was almost zero risk in being in some (not crowded) places without.
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Cher
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Post by Cher on Aug 3, 2021 14:09:18 GMT -6
I just keep my eyes on my own paper. I have friends that have their kids masked for everything and I have friends that don’t mask their kids unless it’s compulsory. Fwiw, all of my friends are vaccinated.
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Post by cribs on Aug 3, 2021 14:09:39 GMT -6
Our pediatrician said today that she heard some unofficial news that we could see vaccines for the younger kids at the end of August. She knows the trial doctors at our hospital so I'm going to lean into this info
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Post by fatpony on Aug 3, 2021 14:10:25 GMT -6
Our pediatrician said today that she heard some unofficial news that we could see vaccines for the younger kids at the end of August. She knows the trial doctors at our hospital so I'm going to lean into this info I have a friend who heard this too.
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Post by rvasc on Aug 3, 2021 14:11:19 GMT -6
Our pediatrician said today that she heard some unofficial news that we could see vaccines for the younger kids at the end of August. She knows the trial doctors at our hospital so I'm going to lean into this info 🤞🤞🤞🤞
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sewf
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Post by sewf on Aug 3, 2021 14:11:19 GMT -6
I'm sorry. I obviously have complicated feelings on this. But I will check my judgement in the future. Part of my feelings come from being in Missouri and knowing that most of the people I interact with in my retail location are not vaccinated. My city has a 39.4% vaccinated rate, and I am scared for my family's health and safety, as well as my own when I have seen the people argue and belittle those of us having to enforce mask mandates. But that definitely should not be my first thought with every kid in the store. Missouri is a fucking shit show and I can’t imagine how I would feel if I lived there. I operate from a very fact-based approach. I check positivities and hospitalizations every morning, I follow other countries (fingers crossed we trend like UK) and I base how I operate according to that. When positivities were nonexistent, I let my kids eat inside, take off their mask if they bought a drink at a store, or even just because with my youngest because I know the sensory component of wearing a mask triggers him, then causes pooling of salvia (which essentially renders the mask useless). Now we’re back to masking indoors when we run an errand due to the recent uptick in numbers. But if my kid was having a totally bad day, I don’t know that I would lay down and die over it, especially since as I said before, actual specialists have said his masks are essentially useless because of his pooling issues. But my decisions for my kids are based on actual facts and their needs. It’s not going to ruin my life that some stranger in Starbucks feels bad for my kids or whatever, but maybe it’s helpful for people to know the thought process that goes behind my decisions. Not everyone without a mask is anti-vaccine/Biden/science/whatever. I get that. I actually very much value your input in covid discussions because of that approach. It helps my anxiety. Lol! I just think being in this covid hell called Missouri has skewed my feelings on the whole thing. We have never had good numbers, and even in my liberal blue bubble of a city, we were fake coughed on at work, people took off masks to sneeze, multiple coworkers were almost physically assaulted because they asked that people put their masks over their noses while we had a mandate. We have a new mandate now, and I am sure my fear of going into work tomorrow played a part in my judgement.
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Post by cribs on Aug 3, 2021 14:11:34 GMT -6
Our pediatrician said today that she heard some unofficial news that we could see vaccines for the younger kids at the end of August. She knows the trial doctors at our hospital so I'm going to lean into this info I have a friend who heard this too. Oh good. I'm going to just go with this new information
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