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Post by cnf on May 26, 2021 10:50:10 GMT -6
I just ran to Target. Only one patron without a mask, but several employees. I hope they truly are vaccinated. I was pleasantly shocked somehow though.
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Post by greykitty on May 26, 2021 11:42:17 GMT -6
I'm seeing a mix of masked and unmasked folks, mostly masked. The first time I saw someone unmasked was unnerving but I've gotten used to it already. Vax numbers in CT are really good, so I feel fine with it. I also have to admit I'm having some feelings about assuming WalMart employees and the like, who have been on the front lines through out this, are jumping to lie about being vaccinated just so they can unmask. I'm not trying to police posts and I don't think anyone is being malicious, but it's been bugging me. All I know is a lot of Trader Joe employees at my store were fully vaccinated before me, and associates at my Kroger subsidiary were pretty aggressive about getting vaccinated. They were in the same tier as I was in my state. And I was very eager to get my shots! Today at the grocery store (Kroger sub) I saw a mix of associates masked and unmasked, and shoppers were about 80/20 masked. Monday I think I saw more shoppers who were masked. I honestly do not assume everyone is fibbing about their status, but I think people are getting more information about the science behind the CDC recommendations for the fully vaccinated as well, and comfort levels are rising.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on May 26, 2021 12:18:50 GMT -6
lemondrop . Is there exclusion for people who recovered from covid in the wild? Yes, there is an exclusion for people who got Covid. PDQ: snip " Thanks. I forgot that would likely exclude me then!
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Post by enchanted on May 26, 2021 12:20:49 GMT -6
Considering only about 35-40 percent of my county is vaccinated and the percentage of people unmasked is way higher than that, I feel safe in my assumptions.
That said, I actually don't make that assumption about unmasked employees. The public in general, yes, but store employees, no.
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Post by blurnette989 on May 26, 2021 12:27:25 GMT -6
Considering only about 35-40 percent of my county is vaccinated and the percentage of people unmasked is way higher than that, I feel safe in my assumptions. That said, I actually don't make that assumption about unmasked employees. The public in general, yes, but store employees, no. Yeah i feel like most larger stores or chains like WalMart will have a consistent number of people who would stop wearing masks despite not being vaccinated as the population of their community at large. I think the worry is that you are likely to see those employees more frequently because you go to that store.
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Post by lemondrop on May 26, 2021 13:12:07 GMT -6
Yes, there is an exclusion for people who got Covid. PDQ: snip " Thanks. I forgot that would likely exclude me then! I'm sorry
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Post by Minerva on May 26, 2021 13:19:56 GMT -6
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Post by lemondrop on May 26, 2021 13:35:42 GMT -6
Considering only about 35-40 percent of my county is vaccinated and the percentage of people unmasked is way higher than that, I feel safe in my assumptions.That said, I actually don't make that assumption about unmasked employees. The public in general, yes, but store employees, no. same. I'm genuinely, no snark, very jealous of people in more liberal areas who still have good masking. 99% unmasked at my gym yesterday - I was the 1%. Our local grocery store when I went last time was about 10% masked. Even kids, who most definitely are not vaccinated. I had a very serious discussion with my husband about moving to my inlaws in NH this summer so my son can go out in public. I'm at a loss at this point. I feel more and more defeated everytime someone talks about how 80% of their local XYZ was masked! I mean this honestly - it must be nice because that is not my experience here, and our adult vaccination numbers have dropped off dramatically so it's likely not going to get better. I'm panicky desperate to get my son vaccinated being surrounded with *gestures* all of these people.
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Post by AmyG on May 26, 2021 13:37:29 GMT -6
Considering only about 35-40 percent of my county is vaccinated and the percentage of people unmasked is way higher than that, I feel safe in my assumptions. That said, I actually don't make that assumption about unmasked employees. The public in general, yes, but store employees, no. My zip code is less than 35% vaccinated. Lots of vaccine hesitancy in poc and others, even in population of public facing essential workers in walmartstores, police, nurses, etc. So when I see 100% unmasked in stores, I know not everyone is vaccinated. Even essential workers in some areas are not over 50%.
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Post by lion on May 26, 2021 13:46:31 GMT -6
Sitting right there with all of you in low vaxxed rate counties. We've apparently peaked at 30% vaccination rate for those over 18. It's just sat around that percent for weeks now. I don't know what to do with that information except be bitter, and I hate it. Most already weren't masking here because they're anti science but now no one is. I guess good for the 30% of people, but people with young kids are just SOL apparently.
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Post by AmyG on May 26, 2021 13:53:38 GMT -6
Knowing vaccine hesitancy in some populations is rooted with historical good reasons (experimentation on poc for instance)
I feel the cdc has dropped the ball with their mask policy announcement. It does nothing to protect that population of unvaccinated people that have good reason to not get vaccinated yet, even if its not "scientific enough" reason.
Some of our tribes are high on vac %(navajo) but others are hesitant. There was an article that a local tribe Hualapai got an email from maderna to participate in trials, but when asked for a face to face meet (even zoom) to go over tribal customs and expectations for reassurance they got nothing back. So the tribe as a whole is vac hesitant wondering how many NA were in the vac trials.
These populations need the protection of everyone else wearing masks for a while longer.
/ramble
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Post by enchanted on May 26, 2021 14:22:23 GMT -6
*snip* I feel the cdc has dropped the ball with their mask policy announcement. It does nothing to protect that population of unvaccinated people that have good reason to not get vaccinated yet, even if its not "scientific enough" reason. *snip* Absolutely.
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Post by AmyG on May 26, 2021 14:28:38 GMT -6
I mean I can see NA being vac hesitant if only .6-.8% of vaccine test subjects were NA. of course that is close to the makeup of the US population % wise.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2021 14:46:51 GMT -6
Has anyone else seen/heard that OSHA is saying if you have an adverse reaction and are required to have the vaccine for work it’s considered a workplace injury and workmen’s compensation has to cover you? I can’t imagine employers wanting to go down that road.
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Post by greykitty on May 26, 2021 14:55:27 GMT -6
Has anyone else seen/heard that OSHA is saying if you have an adverse reaction and are required to have the vaccine for work it’s considered a workplace injury and workmen’s compensation has to cover you? I can’t imagine employers wanting to go down that road. I'm not sure - this read to me as kind of the opposite? Maybe the HR folks could clarify? Certainly everything in this area is moving/modifying quickly, seems to me. In a 180-degree shift in policy, OSHA said on Friday that employers do not need to record adverse reactions from COVID-19 vaccines on their OSHA 300 logs. link
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Post by cnf on May 26, 2021 18:26:04 GMT -6
Considering only about 35-40 percent of my county is vaccinated and the percentage of people unmasked is way higher than that, I feel safe in my assumptions. That said, I actually don't make that assumption about unmasked employees. The public in general, yes, but store employees, no. The only reason I even thought today about the employees potentially not being vaxxed while unmasked was because of the Walmart comment from the other day. I assumed proof of vaccine meant showing you card, not just checking yes on a piece of paper or saying it out loud to a boss. NY has an app to verify vaccination status so I just figured other states either had an app or required a card to be shown for proof, otherwise I would not have thought anything of the unmasked employees. I do generally assume they're all truly vaxxed because I can imagine it must have been so terrifying to be a service worker during all of this. I can't imagine they wouldn't have jumped at the first chance to get one after what they've dealt with the last 15 months. And NY has pretty good vaccination rates, my county included, so I feel ok about employees not being masked. It's just so jarring to see after all this time. I kind of forgot the way other people look with half their face showing.
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Post by sewf on May 26, 2021 21:16:15 GMT -6
Considering only about 35-40 percent of my county is vaccinated and the percentage of people unmasked is way higher than that, I feel safe in my assumptions. That said, I actually don't make that assumption about unmasked employees. The public in general, yes, but store employees, no. The only reason I even thought today about the employees potentially not being vaxxed while unmasked was because of the Walmart comment from the other day. I assumed proof of vaccine meant showing you card, not just checking yes on a piece of paper or saying it out loud to a boss. NY has an app to verify vaccination status so I just figured other states either had an app or required a card to be shown for proof, otherwise I would not have thought anything of the unmasked employees. I do generally assume they're all truly vaxxed because I can imagine it must have been so terrifying to be a service worker during all of this. I can't imagine they wouldn't have jumped at the first chance to get one after what they've dealt with the last 15 months. And NY has pretty good vaccination rates, my county included, so I feel ok about employees not being masked. It's just so jarring to see after all this time. I kind of forgot the way other people look with half their face showing. I have to say, it has been so nice not having to plaster on a customer service smile all day. I miss smiling at kids, but creepy guys used to take it the wrong way.
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Post by sweetpea on May 27, 2021 0:33:15 GMT -6
I'm seeing a mix of masked and unmasked folks, mostly masked. The first time I saw someone unmasked was unnerving but I've gotten used to it already. Vax numbers in CT are really good, so I feel fine with it. I also have to admit I'm having some feelings about assuming WalMart employees and the like, who have been on the front lines through out this, are jumping to lie about being vaccinated just so they can unmask. I'm not trying to police posts and I don't think anyone is being malicious, but it's been bugging me. I was the one that brought up that the workers only have to say yes or no on daily questionnaire. It is company policy as of whenever the CDC policy change was. And I heard about it on main stream media this weekend. So while I don’t think all/most employees will be lying, I’m not naive enough to think they’re all being honest. I don’t trust anyone right now
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Post by addymac on May 27, 2021 7:20:48 GMT -6
I saw my first unmasked person at TJs yesterday. I was shook. Luckily it was only one person. Sigh.
We have parents visiting in the NICU and our policy is you have to get tested every two weeks to visit (with negative results) or if you’re fully vaccinated no testing done. And we have parents that are bitching at us for it and I’m like….. just get vaccinated?? You have a preemie and they’re gonna need all the protection they can get!
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Post by greykitty on May 27, 2021 7:25:29 GMT -6
I had blood work done this morning. Following CDC/state protocols, masks are required. Compared to three months ago, no double masking required, and they didn't scan temperatures as you entered the building. The reception area checked temps still.
I have an endoscopy scheduled for late July. Scheduler told me that right now they'll contact me to scheduled a COVID test a few days before the procedure, but she said that may change based on ongoing data. I'm still expecting to be tested, though.
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Post by Dr. Cox on May 27, 2021 7:38:24 GMT -6
I saw my first unmasked person at TJs yesterday. I was shook. Luckily it was only one person. Sigh. We have parents visiting in the NICU and our policy is you have to get tested every two weeks to visit (with negative results) or if you’re fully vaccinated no testing done. And we have parents that are bitching at us for it and I’m like….. just get vaccinated?? You have a preemie and they’re gonna need all the protection they can get! Parents of NICU patients not getting vaxxed makes me angry.
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Post by jaygee on May 27, 2021 7:51:33 GMT -6
Welp. The data is starting to roll in. We aren’t doing much travel until DS is vaccinated but there are certain states I just wouldn’t step foot in right now.
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Post by koko on May 27, 2021 8:01:59 GMT -6
What are the 5 lowest vaccinated states? We are done with school tomorrow but it doesn't look very promising for summer now that masks aren't required basically anywhere in Texas
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Post by athn64 on May 27, 2021 8:02:38 GMT -6
Welp. The data is starting to roll in. We aren’t doing much travel until DS is vaccinated but there are certain states I just wouldn’t step foot in right now. There's a reason when H and I talked vacation for the summer we decided to only go a couple hours away and not go to one of our neighboring states. And we're planning on doing a mostly low key hiking trip. I think the county we'll be visiting has a higher rate of vax than our home anyways.
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Post by greykitty on May 27, 2021 8:08:28 GMT -6
I thought this was interesting about interest in vaccinations increasing after the CDC mask recommendations for the fully vaccinated, but not sure there will able be a way to quantify the consequences. link
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Post by jaygee on May 27, 2021 8:11:06 GMT -6
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Post by lemondrop on May 27, 2021 8:11:40 GMT -6
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Post by byjove on May 27, 2021 8:15:16 GMT -6
What are the 5 lowest vaccinated states? We are done with school tomorrow but it doesn't look very promising for summer now that masks aren't required basically anywhere in Texas I'm making the assumption this twitter person is correct
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Post by koko on May 27, 2021 8:23:55 GMT -6
I clicked on the tweet thinking someone would say but I didn't see the reply. Thanks for all the answers.
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Post by milano on May 27, 2021 8:34:32 GMT -6
Things are opening up at a rapid pace here- our zip code had an 84% vaccination rate (of eligible people) 2 weeks ago, and the neighboring zip codes were at 78% and 74%. This makes me feel much more comfortable taking my masked kids out in public and interacting with other parent-vaccinated families. We get a lot of tourists though so we are still steering clear of them as best we can because they come from all over.
I looked at my old zip code out of curiosity and they are at 39/one dose 33/fully. Big difference!
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