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Post by cnf on May 25, 2021 12:21:37 GMT -6
We're planning to take our kids to a triple A baseball game this weekend because the stadium is split by vaccinated and non vaccinated with proof of vaccine required. NY has an app that pulls your vaccine info and it gives a scannable QR code so places can verify. Kids under 12 with vaccinated parents can sit in the vaccinated section. So we feel good about that.
Please, yes, scan the shit out of my QR that identifies me as fully vaxxed for everything.
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Post by orangebird2020 on May 25, 2021 13:19:16 GMT -6
cnf That sounds like a great idea. I don't think my state has that or I missed it. We went to a triple a baseball game before the mask change and we are going to another next weekend. I am hopeful that the area I picked works as I imagine for space, but still nervous to see so many without masks. Wish I could just know for sure who is really more risky to be around with a kid.
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Post by greykitty on May 25, 2021 13:43:02 GMT -6
I think I see where the CDC is going with this, but I suspect it will be spun badly by some. excerpt: Now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has stopped investigating breakthrough infections among fully vaccinated people unless they become so sick that they are hospitalized or die. Earlier this year, the agency was monitoring all cases. Through the end of April, when some 101 million Americans had been vaccinated, the C.D.C. had received 10,262 reports of breakthrough infections from 46 states and territories, a number that was very likely “a substantial undercount,” according to a C.D.C. report issued on Tuesday. Genomic sequencing could be done on only 555, or about 5 percent, of the reported breakthrough cases. Over half of them involved so-called variants of concern, including the B.1.1.7 and B.1.351 variants. link
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Post by nelzie on May 25, 2021 13:53:58 GMT -6
Dr Fauci is in an approps subcommittee hearing and Rep Watson-Coleman expressed concern about sending her 8 year old granddaughter back to in person school before she is vaccinated and Dr Fauci said that, if we continue the current trends re: vaccination rates and rapidly declining infection rates, it should be quite safe for kids by the fall. That's something I've been unsure/nervous about but it makes me feel better. Did he mention if the kids should be masked? This is one of my big concerns too and I guarantee there will be few if any wearing masks next fall here.
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Post by byjove on May 25, 2021 14:18:50 GMT -6
I am going to Target for the first time today since everything changed. I saw my neighbor at school pick up and she said she was just there and everyone basically had a mask on. The two grocery stores I go to and basically everywhere else I've been still has a mask requirement.
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Post by dc2london on May 25, 2021 14:33:24 GMT -6
Dr Fauci is in an approps subcommittee hearing and Rep Watson-Coleman expressed concern about sending her 8 year old granddaughter back to in person school before she is vaccinated and Dr Fauci said that, if we continue the current trends re: vaccination rates and rapidly declining infection rates, it should be quite safe for kids by the fall. That's something I've been unsure/nervous about but it makes me feel better. Did he mention if the kids should be masked? This is one of my big concerns too and I guarantee there will be few if any wearing masks next fall here. Unfortunately he didn't specify I need to make a throwaway cspan account so I can make clips for yall
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Post by dc2london on May 25, 2021 14:34:04 GMT -6
I am going to Target for the first time today since everything changed. I saw my neighbor at school pick up and she said she was just there and everyone basically had a mask on. The two grocery stores I go to and basically everywhere else I've been still has a mask requirement. I ran in there on Saturday to get the kids a new pool and didn't see a single maskless face
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Post by cp3 on May 25, 2021 14:49:49 GMT -6
I went to Target on Sunday and saw many workers and customers without masks. Same with the grocery store. Hopefully they are verifying workers vaccination status.
When the mask change first came out I still saw everyone mostly masked but it seems as time goes on more and more people are going without. At least in my area.
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Post by addymac on May 25, 2021 14:56:46 GMT -6
Ok but I don't send my kids to school without a flu vaccine either lol (No but seriously thanks for sharing) oh no! I totally get it, and we don’t either lol. I just thought it was good food for thought at reframing risks as we move toward the fall. Including trying to get people to vaccinate their kids once we can. Sigh. Sigh. My sister sent me the article and was like “see! Everything’s fine!” And I was like except he’s always had the flu shot. And she goes “what does that have anything to do with it?” Sigh.
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Post by goldenbird on May 25, 2021 15:19:24 GMT -6
Well fuck. As of 6/1, daycare is letting us go back into the building for drop off and pick up. Ok fine. But the additional message was for the first 2 weeks of June, teachers and parents going into building need to continue to mask. After 2 weeks they will reassess. Like...can we not just please keep wearing masks in there until all ages of kids can be vaccinated??? Wtf. Not all staff has been vaccinated, nor all the parents and kids. Obviously I know it can still go around to these kids by way of other kids, and that's more likely how they would get infected than via 6 years old Susie's unvacced unmasked dad being inside for 5 minutes. But the masks just make me feel better. Fuck!
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Post by goldenbird on May 25, 2021 15:25:12 GMT -6
I'm definitely going to talk to them about this and voice my concerns. Like there was just a positive case there yesterday.
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Post by cmb on May 25, 2021 17:32:00 GMT -6
The NYS VETF did a joint panel discussion re: Women’s Health and Vaccines. The program starts around the 50 min mark for anyone interested:
There were over 1000 people registered and a lot of great questions came in
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Post by klw on May 25, 2021 18:03:46 GMT -6
Every damn article, or fb update from our health department that I have read has someone crying about HIPAA. Someone has usually schooled them before I see it.
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Post by byjove on May 25, 2021 19:00:33 GMT -6
I am going to Target for the first time today since everything changed. I saw my neighbor at school pick up and she said she was just there and everyone basically had a mask on. The two grocery stores I go to and basically everywhere else I've been still has a mask requirement. I ran in there on Saturday to get the kids a new pool and didn't see a single maskless face I would say 90ish% had masks (place was busy for a Tuesday night), but it was definitely not everyone. My 5.5 yo was horrified and kept asking why people weren’t wearing masks, so I said some of the rules have changed and if you are vaccinated you aren’t required to wear one (though we will) and in a slightly louder voice “so we hope THE PEOPLE THAT AREN’T WEARING MASKS ARE VACCINATED”
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Post by cribs on May 25, 2021 19:02:10 GMT -6
Does anyone follow Drs Lucy McBride or Monica Gandhi on Twitter? Our local NPR station has had them on and they are pushing for no masks in schools next year. Also, the first has a retweet that it's good for all the cases to be in kids and it's no big deal. My county is the highest in NY by far. I'm not impressed with our local radios pushing this shit I see Gandhi quoted a lot in Bay Area articles and I get the impression that she is less cautious that others. I know she was advocating for CA to follow the CDC guidelines which I gave side eye to Yeah she's now talking about how the masking is worse for kids than covid so I'm very eyerolly. I just hope my area keeps masks for the fall. I know rationally they probably will but it still stressed me out
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Post by dc2london on May 26, 2021 5:25:35 GMT -6
'To begin with, the CDC can differentiate between businesses and advise that indoor mask mandates still apply to essential services. Businesses deemed essential earlier in the pandemic, such as grocery stores and pharmacies, should once again carry this designation so that parents with young children and the immunocompromised can safely patronize them. The CDC should also clarify that, while masks are not needed in outdoor settings, indoor masking is still required in schools unless certain metrics are met — for example, low enough community transmission rates or high enough vaccine uptake among students and staff.' The pandemic isn’t over — especially for our children Opinion by Leana S. Wen www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/25/pandemic-isnt-over-especially-our-children/
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Post by lemondrop on May 26, 2021 5:57:13 GMT -6
PDQ: Poof
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Post by geekygirly on May 26, 2021 7:08:28 GMT -6
'To begin with, the CDC can differentiate between businesses and advise that indoor mask mandates still apply to essential services. Businesses deemed essential earlier in the pandemic, such as grocery stores and pharmacies, should once again carry this designation so that parents with young children and the immunocompromised can safely patronize them. The CDC should also clarify that, while masks are not needed in outdoor settings, indoor masking is still required in schools unless certain metrics are met — for example, low enough community transmission rates or high enough vaccine uptake among students and staff.' The pandemic isn’t over — especially for our children Opinion by Leana S. Wen www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/25/pandemic-isnt-over-especially-our-children/Probably shouldn't have read the comments, but I felt this one in my soul: "Oh great, kids missed a year of crucial education and social interaction to help keep the rest of society safe but you can't be bothered to wear a mask in a grocery store until they can be safe too."
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Post by ldubhawksfan on May 26, 2021 7:16:57 GMT -6
lemondrop. Is there exclusion for people who recovered from covid in the wild?
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Post by piratecat on May 26, 2021 7:50:54 GMT -6
Well fuck. As of 6/1, daycare is letting us go back into the building for drop off and pick up. Ok fine. But the additional message was for the first 2 weeks of June, teachers and parents going into building need to continue to mask. After 2 weeks they will reassess. Like...can we not just please keep wearing masks in there until all ages of kids can be vaccinated??? Wtf. Not all staff has been vaccinated, nor all the parents and kids. Obviously I know it can still go around to these kids by way of other kids, and that's more likely how they would get infected than via 6 years old Susie's unvacced unmasked dad being inside for 5 minutes. But the masks just make me feel better. Fuck! I just don’t get the urgency to take masks off. Like we are so close to getting everyone (that wants to anyway) vaccinated and we can’t just wait and not fuck things up before then?
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Post by goldenbird on May 26, 2021 8:10:40 GMT -6
Well fuck. As of 6/1, daycare is letting us go back into the building for drop off and pick up. Ok fine. But the additional message was for the first 2 weeks of June, teachers and parents going into building need to continue to mask. After 2 weeks they will reassess. Like...can we not just please keep wearing masks in there until all ages of kids can be vaccinated??? Wtf. Not all staff has been vaccinated, nor all the parents and kids. Obviously I know it can still go around to these kids by way of other kids, and that's more likely how they would get infected than via 6 years old Susie's unvacced unmasked dad being inside for 5 minutes. But the masks just make me feel better. Fuck! I just don’t get the urgency to take masks off. Like we are so close to getting everyone (that wants to anyway) vaccinated and we can’t just wait and not fuck things up before then? I don't either. And in a childcare setting where 99% of their students can't be vaccinated yet...frankly I was hoping that masks would be required there in general through the end of the year
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Post by dc2london on May 26, 2021 8:14:49 GMT -6
Republicans: Donald Trump saved the world with the vaccines!
Also Republicans: we won't take the vaccine and you can't make is
Dr Walensky is on the Hill again
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Post by geekygirly on May 26, 2021 8:19:26 GMT -6
As someone with a lung situation that you would think would make it more difficult to breathe with a mask on (and yet has no issues wearing one), I've come to the conclusion over the last year that most U.S. adults are self-centered whiners who can't bear the slightest inconvenience for the sake of others. (Irony: most would likely call themselves Christians)
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Post by goldenbird on May 26, 2021 8:24:44 GMT -6
I get that the not needing to mask once vaxxed is a 'reward' of sorts. But like...what about the reward that you won't get severe covid? Won't need to be hospitalized? Won't die like millions of people worldwide have? That can't be a good enough reward for another 6 months or so?
100% if you're seeing family members in a house and everyone is vaccinated, ok, no masks. But going out in public, being around kids or other compromised, being asked to wear a mask by a business or employer, just wear a mask.
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Post by goldenbird on May 26, 2021 8:25:41 GMT -6
I know I'm preaching to the choir here. I'm just blah. I wasn't expecting his school to even let us back into the building before at least the 5-11 age group was eligible for the vaccine.
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Post by willow on May 26, 2021 8:29:10 GMT -6
goldenbird That is really disappointing that the center is getting rid of the mask requirement to go inside. I don't see our daycare center changing mask rules until all the littles can be vaccinated. I would agree with others that the willingness to wear masks in public is going away. I see it still a bit in grocery stores but I was only one of two people entirely that I saw wearing a mask at the gym last night, when 2 weeks ago there were still a good almost half of people wearing one. I don't see that getting any better.
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Post by GameNight on May 26, 2021 9:03:43 GMT -6
I haven't been around since the election (am trying to start jumping back in!) but I'm sorry for the frustration goldenbird . One of my kids is currently in the midst of a ten-day quarantine because she was in close contact (for more than 15 minutes) with a staff member at school who tested positive for Covid. For all the reasons you all are mentioning, I had a talk with the administration about the importance of everyone continuing to wear masks, especially given the under 12 population hasn't had the ability to be vaccinated. This staff member is unvaccinated and in my area (in VA), many people are now going around mask less, regardless of vaccination status. Masks are the only thing providing younger kids some layer of protection, yet I know our school board and summer programs are getting significant pushback about requiring masks throughout the summer and potentially into the fall. My kid was wearing a mask and she's still in quarantine, so between masks and the capacity and distancing restrictions ending, I worry. I hope your daycare seriously reconsiders changing their policies.
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Post by byjove on May 26, 2021 9:09:42 GMT -6
'To begin with, the CDC can differentiate between businesses and advise that indoor mask mandates still apply to essential services. Businesses deemed essential earlier in the pandemic, such as grocery stores and pharmacies, should once again carry this designation so that parents with young children and the immunocompromised can safely patronize them. The CDC should also clarify that, while masks are not needed in outdoor settings, indoor masking is still required in schools unless certain metrics are met — for example, low enough community transmission rates or high enough vaccine uptake among students and staff.' The pandemic isn’t over — especially for our children Opinion by Leana S. Wen www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/25/pandemic-isnt-over-especially-our-children/It doesn't feel great to hear that cases for kids are in line with the winter surge right now, granted, that seems like the case for all unvaccinated people. Really drives home how game changing these vaccines are, as the article says, "extraordinary."
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Post by lemondrop on May 26, 2021 10:11:57 GMT -6
lemondrop . Is there exclusion for people who recovered from covid in the wild? Yes, there is an exclusion for people who got Covid. poof
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Post by piratecat on May 26, 2021 10:49:47 GMT -6
I just don’t get the urgency to take masks off. Like we are so close to getting everyone (that wants to anyway) vaccinated and we can’t just wait and not fuck things up before then? I don't either. And in a childcare setting where 99% of their students can't be vaccinated yet...frankly I was hoping that masks would be required there in general through the end of the year Our daycare outbreak is up to 8 kids and 2 staff with COVID now. And that’s WITH masking and no parents in the building and all the protocols. It seems hardly the time to loosen up.
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