The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

[overboard]

Apr 21, 2021 16:52:43 GMT -6 greykitty said:

I didn't care for Peggy that much either, but the series, which I just watched last year, turned my opinion around. Also kind of helped me understand why Steve would choose that option during Endgame. I also do see that crossing arcs storyline that the writers/directors were working toward, even if it didn't match my undying Stucky devotion. LOL

I'm sure you'll find something fun/intriguing to watch til Loki pops up. I did see something that sounds like filming on Hawkeye has been completed. So much to watch going forward!

Did not realize there was going to be a Hawkeye series. I cannot stand Jeremy Renner so I won’t be watching.

I’m disappointed with Falcon/Winter Soldier. The writing is just not good enough. Anthony and Sebastian are so talented, but I don’t think they were given enough good material to work with.
Karli/flag smashers/fake cap are not compelling. OG black super soldier and his storyline are much more interesting.

I’ve got high hopes for Loki. I hope it’s not all downhill after WandaVision.

[pianolove]

I loved this. What a great ending.

Man I will always love Bucky on a motorcycle.

So I watch these with subtitles, when Sam was in pursuit of the helicopter it said “captain America grunts” 😁

I’m so happy to see redwing back!

Ugh Sharon. Come the fuck on. That explains how she got the face disguise from AoS.

“Stay down!” “No.”

Glad to see Bucky using that arm lol. So after the fight, the guard who was a flag smasher shut the door, and then the van was blown up by Zemo’s butler. So Zeno is still killing people even from the raft.

Sams speech left me speechless. Everything that needed to be said.
Trying his best to right the wrongs done to Isaiah, following through on his promises.

Sharon ugh. Just ugh. Idk if she’s the actual power broker though, I think she’s a face for him/her.

I’m dyingggg to see what happens with Val now that John walker is the us agent. And if they do have her as madame hydra.

[pianolove]

I’m also waiting to see what Torres does with those broken wings!

[pianolove]

also this

[athn64]

Apr 23, 2021 8:54:39 GMT -6 pianolove said:

I’m also waiting to see what Torres does with those broken wings!

I was really hoping he would show up at the end! I need a new Falcon!

[pianolove]

Apr 23, 2021 9:25:58 GMT -6 athn64 said:

Apr 23, 2021 8:54:39 GMT -6 pianolove said:

I’m also waiting to see what Torres does with those broken wings!

I was really hoping he would show up at the end! I need a new Falcon!

I know right! Or at least a hint, I feel like Sam gave him those wings aaaaages ago and I am Impatient.

[athn64]

Sam's speech was awesome. I loved him showing up in the costume. And that he did that for Isaiah.

At the end, Bucky is definitely flirting with Sarah while the kids are hanging on his arm.

I am mad that they made Sharon a villain. But I suppose I did expect it. Though now H really owes me that back massage, because she is not a super soldier at all.

I can't wait to see what the Countess does. I wonder if Walker will be good or bad as US Agent.

The fight was epic. I'm sorry that Karli died. I wanted her to be rehabilitated.

And Zemo's butler showing up. Did not expect that. Zemo definitely was a smug little bitch about it.

I'm glad Bucky told Yori about his son. What an emotional moment.

Overall, I loved the whole thing. And Redwing is back! In fact, Sam has two little drones now. I wonder what he'll name the second one.

So that was a bit disjointed, but overall, it was amazing and I wish there was more coming. And I hate that we have to wait over a month til Lokie.

[pianolove]

[pianolove]

athn64 I felt the same way about Karli. I was really surprised that she ended up dying, even with all her talk about accepting death as a result of her fight. Really wanted that to be another win for Sam.

[pianolove]

Last one I promise, I need to get off twitter and do some work anyways lol

[athn64]

Apr 23, 2021 9:47:47 GMT -6 pianolove said:

Last one I promise, I need to get off twitter and do some work anyways lol

I laughed. But this is true. Let's see how it works out in Loki and Black Widow.

[athn64]

Apr 23, 2021 9:40:12 GMT -6 pianolove said:

I was loving that whole scene. Bucky and Sam are finally friends in their own right. Now we just see how Sam takes it when Bucky continues to flirt with his sister.

[athn64]

I want to add that I'm glad that Sam made good on his promise to Sharon. I just wish she wasn't a bad guy. Ugh. Aunt Peggy would be so disappointed.

[greykitty]

I've read a couple of stories that claimed the original script had an epidemic storyline that had to be redone in view of the pandemic. How much that might affected the Flagsmasher story line, I don't know.

FAWS was supposed to be the kick off series. It could be argued they stuffed (maybe overstuffed) a lot of storylines/characters in it to set up Phase 4 (which has certainly been done). WandaVision overall was a much more personal and smaller in physical scope story and seemed more geared to setting up the Dr. Strange movie. Who knows?

I was overall very happy with FAWS and look forward to seeing many/all of the characters going forward. I don't know if I would ever have warmed up to Karli, though.

I like Hawkeye and Jeremy Renner and think that series will be a big step toward any Young Avengers phase.

[greykitty]

Apr 23, 2021 10:21:33 GMT -6 athn64 said:

I want to add that I'm glad that Sam made good on his promise to Sharon. I just wish she wasn't a bad guy. Ugh. Aunt Peggy would be so disappointed.

Not that Sharon might care, but I was envisioning both a Captain America (either one) and Aunt Peggy 'I'm very disappointed' face.

Someone told me they think Sharon may be a set up to a Secret Wars story line - or is it Empire.  Or both? .  Or a Skrull.

Geez - is Steve really on the moon?  And where is Nick Fury?

[greykitty]

Cross post - and probably not a huge surprise

Captain America 4 in development

Malcolm Spellman is picking up Captain America's shield once again.

The head writer and show creator behind Disney+ and Marvel's The Falcon and the Winter Soldier is developing a fourth installment of the Captain America film franchise for Marvel Studios. Spellman will co-write the script with Dalan Musson, a staff writer on Falcon and the Winter Soldier.


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[richard]

Once Sam came into the scene with Karli and Sharon, I knew Karli was dead since she knew about Sharon.

They did seem weirdly cool with Walker after his fight. I was like...huh?

In the scene where the remaining Flagsmashers got blown up, I thought "why is Alfred killing them?!?" for a second. Then I remembered it was Zemo's butler. Lol.

Kudos to Sam for the fastest exhibit design and fabrication in the history of man.

Overall, this was a 6/10. I liked Sam and Bucky's personal storylines and Zemo was amusing but everything else was kind of meh. But that's how I feel about Captain America in general.

[richard]

[Lakes]

Not a fan of the half helmet situation for Sam.

I agree that it was weird they were chill with Walker. Omg Bucky. Just free the second truck of hostages. Screw Walker. Let him get a beat down.

[willow]

I highly enjoyed the show overall, even if I thought the flag smashers storyline was lame.

I’m all aboard the Sebastian Stan train now too haha.

I’m glad that Wyatt Russell is going to stick around and that he was sort of half redeemed by coming and helping at the end.

I’m annoyed that they did the predictable thing with Sharon. But Emily Vancamp is sooo good at playing duplicitous roles so it also works (Revenge, anyone?)

[greykitty]

I only know Emily from Everwood and The Resident - so the duplicitous side is new to me. But it will be fun to see what all happens down the road. Especially with Julia louis-Dreyfus I truly never saw that coming.

[willow]

Apr 24, 2021 14:18:53 GMT -6 greykitty said:

I only know Emily from Everwood and The Resident - so the duplicitous side is new to me. But it will be fun to see what all happens down the road. Especially with Julia louis-Dreyfus I truly never saw that coming.

You should watch Revenge! It’s such a good show. It’s for sure a play on dark soaps but it’s got excellent acting.

[athn64]

Apr 24, 2021 20:10:10 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

Ahhh I love this show. Sam's speech was stupendous, I think it was everything Karli was fighting for, but didn't know how to do anything about. I cried when Isaiah saw the display. And seeing Bucky playing with the kids made my heart happy.

I don't like the Sharon storyline, though, chiefly because I don't get it, or buy it. Why wouldn't she have gotten a pardon with everyone else? And I just don't buy that the Sharon Carter we knew would become *this* evil. I understand her anger, but I don't believe the storyline and so it annoys me.

I think Karli had to die, she was too far gone and I don't think she knew how to get herself out of the situation she'd created.

I am still very "fuck John Walker" and him being around in a potential season 2 will be one of the few downsides for me.

I hate Walker. Hate him. And no one can convince me that the Contessa is a good guy. She's up to something. Walker may not know that, though.

[willow]

Haha I love the differing opinions on Walker here. I don’t like him but I just find him so compelling that he’s a villain I root for. My H has said there is speculation that he’ll be in a new series or movie called the Thunderbolts or something? Idk I was half listening. So maybe he won’t be in a season 2 haha. I’m just glad they are giving Wyatt Russell more material. Clearly the acting genes are strong in that family!

[willow]

Apr 24, 2021 20:54:55 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

I do think the different opinions are interesting and says the writers did it right.

For me personally, Walker is the epitome of white male entitlement/arrogance and at the moment I'm a low point as far as tolerance for that.

Oh for sure he is. I think the fact that he does it so well is what makes me enjoy the character? I don’t know. Haha. I feel like a lot of villains have been terrible in MCU and honestly one of their weaker spots in my eyes so it was refreshing I guess.

Like I was bored/didn’t like/etc Thanos, Mysterio (omg Jake Gylenhaal in that role was painful and he’s a good actor!), whatever her name is that Galadriel played that was Thor’s sister, Jude Law, the dude from Ultron, and heck even Daddy Russell himself lol...

I apparently have more of an issue with the villain casting than I thought 😂

[willow]

Apr 24, 2021 21:03:22 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

Apr 24, 2021 20:59:50 GMT -6 willow said:

Oh for sure he is. I think the fact that he does it so well is what makes me enjoy the character? I don’t know. Haha. I feel like a lot of villains have been terrible in MCU and honestly one of their weaker spots in my eyes so it was refreshing I guess.

Like I was bored/didn’t like/etc Thanos, Mysterio (omg Jake Gylenhaal in that role was painful and he’s a good actor!), whatever her name is that Galadriel played that was Thor’s sister, Jude Law, the dude from Ultron, and heck even Daddy Russell himself lol...

I apparently have more of an issue with the villain casting than I thought 😂

Oooh I've loved so many villains. Ah yeah, Thor's sister was played by Cate Blanchett. I loved her too 😆

I agree with you about Mysterio though. I love Jake Gyllenhaal and that just did not work.

Yesss haha thank you I just blanked on her name so I went with Galadriel. 😂😂😂

I totally agree re: Jake. Though to be fair that entire villain is sort of just ridiculous looking with the fishbowl head.

[4PrivetDrive]

Sharon is a terrible villain. I don’t like that at all.

I thought the butler in the car was Professor X when I saw him in the mirror reflection and got excited even though he is dead. X-Men crossover! Lol then I remembered it was Zemo’s butler guy.

I have the biggest lady boners for both Sebastian and Anthony.

Loved Sam’s speech.

Karli’s death was just very anti-climactic. She as a super soldier died from gunshot wounds but Sharon as not-super-soldier did not 🙄

I can’t wait for any and all new things they give us. GIMME IT ALL

[athn64]

Apr 24, 2021 20:54:55 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

I do think the different opinions are interesting and says the writers did it right.

For me personally, Walker is the epitome of white male entitlement/arrogance and at the moment I'm a low point as far as tolerance for that.

He's every mediocre white man. And I hate him. Russell plays him beautifully, and I love hoe he does it. Mad acting chops. But I will hate Walker til the end of my days. Especially with how he treats everyone around him.

The only time I felt for him was when Karli said Lamar didn't matter. I wanted to smack her for that. 

[athn64]

Apr 24, 2021 21:07:03 GMT -6 @icedtea said:

Apr 24, 2021 21:04:47 GMT -6 willow said:

Yesss haha thank you I just blanked on her name so I went with Galadriel. 😂😂😂

I totally agree re: Jake. Though to be fair that entire villain is sort of just ridiculous looking with the fishbowl head.

Omg so ridiculous. I wonder if it made Paul Rudd feel any better about being "ant man".

Mysterio has always had a sucky costume. I kind of would have changed it, but I think they wanted him to be recognizable as Mysterio, and that's kind of his iconic look.

I do think Hela was great in Ragnarok though.

[athn64]

Apr 24, 2021 21:11:59 GMT -6 4PrivetDrive said:

Sharon is a terrible villain. I don’t like that at all.

I thought the butler in the car was Professor X when I saw him in the mirror reflection and got excited even though he is dead. X-Men crossover! Lol then I remembered it was Zemo’s butler guy.

I have the biggest lady boners for both Sebastian and Anthony.

Loved Sam’s speech.

Karli’s death was just very anti-climactic. She as a super soldier died from gunshot wounds but Sharon as not-super-soldier did not 🙄

I can’t wait for any and all new things they give us. GIMME IT ALL

To be fair, Sharon got shot once in a not vital place. Karli was shot three times and probably in more vital places, as Sharon would have been able to make it count, since no one realized she was back there.