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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 12:23:45 GMT -6
Ours did start auto renewing, which was nice. But getting spammed with texts and emails threatening me with fines bc the materials were in quarantine was ridiiiiiiculous. So, as a public librarian, let me explain how my library does it. We quarantine for 4 days (maybe 5 depending on some factors). If your item is in quarantine after the due date, the system will automatically charge fines and send automated notices. However once it's checked in all the fines are removed. It is definitely confusing and causes users some trouble but it's the only way to do it, for us. If we checked items in BEFORE quarantining them, it would cause an absolute inventory nightmare. Unfortunately a lot of items remain legitimately overdue so the notices still have to go out. It isn't perfect. However if your library is actually charging for the quarantine period or missing checking in items all together then that's a different story. Yeah, I get why it's happening, but they've charged me overdue fines and replacement fees for things I've returned before the due date. I get that there isn't a straightforward way to tell the system not to send out notices but once the item is checked back in, the fee should be cleared.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 12:30:49 GMT -6
I don't mean to sound like I am blaming the librarians at all. This all insanity and we are all doing our best. They're only human. I just didn't want to deal with it anymore.
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Post by sweptaway on Jan 4, 2021 12:33:14 GMT -6
So, as a public librarian, let me explain how my library does it. We quarantine for 4 days (maybe 5 depending on some factors). If your item is in quarantine after the due date, the system will automatically charge fines and send automated notices. However once it's checked in all the fines are removed. It is definitely confusing and causes users some trouble but it's the only way to do it, for us. If we checked items in BEFORE quarantining them, it would cause an absolute inventory nightmare. Unfortunately a lot of items remain legitimately overdue so the notices still have to go out. It isn't perfect. However if your library is actually charging for the quarantine period or missing checking in items all together then that's a different story. Yeah, I get why it's happening, but they've charged me overdue fines and replacement fees for things I've returned before the due date. I get that there isn't a straightforward way to tell the system not to send out notices but once the item is checked back in, the fee should be cleared. Yes you're totally right about that. I'm sorry you're having a bad experience!
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Post by loves2read on Jan 4, 2021 12:49:47 GMT -6
So, as a public librarian, let me explain how my library does it. We quarantine for 4 days (maybe 5 depending on some factors). If your item is in quarantine after the due date, the system will automatically charge fines and send automated notices. However once it's checked in all the fines are removed. It is definitely confusing and causes users some trouble but it's the only way to do it, for us. If we checked items in BEFORE quarantining them, it would cause an absolute inventory nightmare. Unfortunately a lot of items remain legitimately overdue so the notices still have to go out. It isn't perfect. However if your library is actually charging for the quarantine period or missing checking in items all together then that's a different story. Yeah, I get why it's happening, but they've charged me overdue fines and replacement fees for things I've returned before the due date. I get that there isn't a straightforward way to tell the system not to send out notices but once the item is checked back in, the fee should be cleared. Our library checks the book back in but puts it in a “pending” category. So, it gets removed from my account but doesn’t go back into circulation. If you can’t tell, I really love my library. In December 2019 they were like “we are starting curbside pick up” and I was thinking how I would never use it, how one of the great joys of libraries is browsing. Now I think they are the most prophetic geniuses ever.
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Post by tatorhead328 on Jan 4, 2021 15:49:22 GMT -6
I finished The Great Alone! I liked it but not as much as The Nightingale. I changed my mind on my next read and went with The Glass Castle since everyone here loved it so much. I read her other book a few weeks ago and really liked the style, so I think I'll enjoy this one, too.
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Post by mintyblueair on Jan 4, 2021 15:55:43 GMT -6
No, I definitely can't read it in the original Chinese! It's the H. Bencraft Joly translation. Do you have thoughts on which translation is best? I'm excited to read it! I don't really know which translation is the best, and was hoping you could shed some light! My H had to read a translated version for high school and his was a very abridged one. We no longer have that copy, but I would say anything too abridged would probably not be worth the effort. So I skimmed through the foreward and apparently the Bencraft Joly translation was published in the 1890s and it's the first 56 chapters. I skimmed and I couldn't see how many chapters are in the original. So it's not abridged, but it's not complete, either. It is also, according to the author of the foreward, extremely literal and avoids some of the eroticism present in the original. Translation theory is so interesting! I'm going to look further into this. With this copy being 966 pages, I'm really wondering how long the original was!
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Post by emma on Jan 4, 2021 16:03:01 GMT -6
the Kate Morton one? She’s one of my favourite authors Yes!
I just need to get back into my reading routine I was doing so well last year but the last 2 weeks of December I haven't done much.
let me know when you finish it. I really enjoyed The Lake House but it wasn't my favourite of hers. But it's like saying it's my least favourite tiara, it's still a sparkly beauty
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Post by emma on Jan 4, 2021 16:09:57 GMT -6
I don't mean to sound like I am blaming the librarians at all. This all insanity and we are all doing our best. They're only human. I just didn't want to deal with it anymore. same. I get it and am sympathetic to the librarians but it's also annoying when i log in and see overdue notices for books i returned a week ago. Our library went fine free this summer but it upsets my rule following goody 2 shoes heart
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Post by dc2london on Jan 4, 2021 16:36:36 GMT -6
I don't mean to sound like I am blaming the librarians at all. This all insanity and we are all doing our best. They're only human. I just didn't want to deal with it anymore. same. I get it and am sympathetic to the librarians but it's also annoying when i log in and see overdue notices for books i returned a week ago. Our library went fine free this summer but it upsets my rule following goody 2 shoes heart Haha yes, I think that's exactly it. I take scolding deeply to heart!
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Post by CestLaVie on Jan 4, 2021 16:39:13 GMT -6
Yes!
I just need to get back into my reading routine I was doing so well last year but the last 2 weeks of December I haven't done much.
let me know when you finish it. I really enjoyed The Lake House but it wasn't my favourite of hers. But it's like saying it's my least favourite tiara, it's still a sparkly beauty ooh this is good to know, I loved this book so much and it's the only one of hers I've read
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Post by klong11 on Jan 4, 2021 16:40:46 GMT -6
I just finished The Girl Who Chased the Moon, now I'll start on The Great Alone.
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Post by emma on Jan 4, 2021 16:48:35 GMT -6
let me know when you finish it. I really enjoyed The Lake House but it wasn't my favourite of hers. But it's like saying it's my least favourite tiara, it's still a sparkly beauty ooh this is good to know, I loved this book so much and it's the only one of hers I've read oh you need to read more! My order of favourites would probably be: The Forgotten Garden The Distant Hours The Secret Keeper and The Clockmakers Daughter (equal place) The Lake House I still need to read The House at Riverton, i've got a hold on it at the library And if you like this style of book i'd also recommend The Midnight Rose by Lucinda Riley
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Post by peaseblossom55 on Jan 4, 2021 18:07:42 GMT -6
I’m about half way through A Lady’s Guide to Etiquette and Murder. It’s a short fun read.
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Post by peaseblossom55 on Jan 4, 2021 18:12:15 GMT -6
A Gentleman in Moscow We Were the Lucky Ones Then She Was Gone The Hunger by Alma Katsu (lots of books with this title) I’m declaring A Gentleman in Moscow my favorite book that I read in 2020. I’m going to have to add that to my read list then. I loved The Hunger I also loved The Deep same author.
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Post by byjove on Jan 4, 2021 18:43:58 GMT -6
I’m about half way through A Lady’s Guide to Etiquette and Murder. It’s a short fun read. I enjoy that series.
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Post by djs on Jan 4, 2021 18:47:45 GMT -6
I don't really know which translation is the best, and was hoping you could shed some light! My H had to read a translated version for high school and his was a very abridged one. We no longer have that copy, but I would say anything too abridged would probably not be worth the effort. So I skimmed through the foreward and apparently the Bencraft Joly translation was published in the 1890s and it's the first 56 chapters. I skimmed and I couldn't see how many chapters are in the original. So it's not abridged, but it's not complete, either. It is also, according to the author of the foreward, extremely literal and avoids some of the eroticism present in the original. Translation theory is so interesting! I'm going to look further into this. With this copy being 966 pages, I'm really wondering how long the original was! The complete book has 120 chapters, with the first 80 attributed to Cao Xueqin and the last 40 to another author. The first 2 chapters are slow going. They have a lot to do with mythology and the introduction of the main family from outsiders' perspective. Chapter 3 is where things pick up more and we start to meet the main characters. Here's what I found on Goodreads: The best translation would be that by David Hawkes (Vol. 1-3) and John Minford (Vol 4-5), available on Penguin Classics as The Story of the Stone. There is, however, a version with both Chinese and English text: ISBN: 9787119032184, where the translation is done by Gladys Yang and Yang Xianyi. However, I rate this translation as inferior to that by Hawkes and Minford. Someone else also commented that the Hawkes version is fluid and lovely.
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Post by loves2read on Jan 4, 2021 18:57:58 GMT -6
ooh this is good to know, I loved this book so much and it's the only one of hers I've read oh you need to read more! My order of favourites would probably be: The Forgotten Garden The Distant Hours The Secret Keeper and The Clockmakers Daughter (equal place) The Lake House I still need to read The House at Riverton, i've got a hold on it at the library And if you like this style of book i'd also recommend The Midnight Rose by Lucinda Riley Thanks for your rankings! I’ve looked at her books a few times but never committed. I will have to change that and start with The Forgotten Garden.
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Post by loves2read on Jan 4, 2021 19:10:51 GMT -6
If no new books could come out for a while, that would be fantastic And I keep getting stuff from the library too. I has a problem I have...5 more books coming this month, and that should be it for quite some time Add me to the list of people with way more books bought than I really need, plus a healthy hold list at the library. In my latest bookstore haul, I put in five preorders for January books (The Ruthless Lady’s Guide to Wizardry, Hall of Smoke, The Ex Talk, Blood Heir, and Shipped)! I can’t stop myself getting the new releases!
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Post by allinthegame on Jan 4, 2021 19:33:42 GMT -6
I finished The Great Alone! I liked it but not as much as The Nightingale. I changed my mind on my next read and went with The Glass Castle since everyone here loved it so much. I read her other book a few weeks ago and really liked the style, so I think I'll enjoy this one, too. I just started The Glass Castle too! I agree with your feelings about The Great Alone and The Nightingale. I just finished The Southern Book Club’s Guide to Slaying Vampires and I wasn’t crazy about it. It wasn’t what I was expecting it to be.
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Post by mintyblueair on Jan 4, 2021 19:51:56 GMT -6
So I skimmed through the foreward and apparently the Bencraft Joly translation was published in the 1890s and it's the first 56 chapters. I skimmed and I couldn't see how many chapters are in the original. So it's not abridged, but it's not complete, either. It is also, according to the author of the foreward, extremely literal and avoids some of the eroticism present in the original. Translation theory is so interesting! I'm going to look further into this. With this copy being 966 pages, I'm really wondering how long the original was! The complete book has 120 chapters, with the first 80 attributed to Cao Xueqin and the last 40 to another author. The first 2 chapters are slow going. They have a lot to do with mythology and the introduction of the main family from outsiders' perspective. Chapter 3 is where things pick up more and we start to meet the main characters. Here's what I found on Goodreads: The best translation would be that by David Hawkes (Vol. 1-3) and John Minford (Vol 4-5), available on Penguin Classics as The Story of the Stone. There is, however, a version with both Chinese and English text: ISBN: 9787119032184, where the translation is done by Gladys Yang and Yang Xianyi. However, I rate this translation as inferior to that by Hawkes and Minford. Someone else also commented that the Hawkes version is fluid and lovely. This is great information! I'll see if I can exchange the copy I have for the Hawkes and Minford translations. Minford actually wrote the foreward to the copy I have.
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Post by loony on Jan 4, 2021 20:15:01 GMT -6
I finished The Great Alone! I liked it but not as much as The Nightingale. I changed my mind on my next read and went with The Glass Castle since everyone here loved it so much. I read her other book a few weeks ago and really liked the style, so I think I'll enjoy this one, too. I just started The Glass Castle too! I agree with your feelings about The Great Alone and The Nightingale. I just finished The Southern Book Club’s Guide to Slaying Vampires and I wasn’t crazy about it. It wasn’t what I was expecting it to be. I read glass castle a few years ago in a book club. It was well written, but depressing. My mother was also in the group, and she was so anti the redemptive quality that she ruined it for me. I’m adding it to my list to reread this year to try and redeem it for myself.
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Post by tatorhead328 on Jan 4, 2021 20:27:56 GMT -6
I finished The Great Alone! I liked it but not as much as The Nightingale. I changed my mind on my next read and went with The Glass Castle since everyone here loved it so much. I read her other book a few weeks ago and really liked the style, so I think I'll enjoy this one, too. I just started The Glass Castle too! I agree with your feelings about The Great Alone and The Nightingale. I just finished The Southern Book Club’s Guide to Slaying Vampires and I wasn’t crazy about it. It wasn’t what I was expecting it to be. i think we must have super similar taste in books! I liked The Southern Book Club's Guide, but I had the same feeling that it wasn't at all what I expected. I really liked the style of humor and want to try another book by that author.
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Post by FlightView on Jan 4, 2021 21:38:57 GMT -6
If I started a book last year, like months ago. And just finished it today...does that count as a book read for the year?
Are we counting half read books... is my question.
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Post by emma on Jan 4, 2021 21:51:20 GMT -6
If I started a book last year, like months ago. And just finished it today...does that count as a book read for the year? Are we counting half read books... is my question. goodreads counted my half finished this year book in the 2021 challenge total so I say yes!
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Post by cdnfroggy on Jan 5, 2021 8:12:17 GMT -6
I just started The Glass Castle too! I agree with your feelings about The Great Alone and The Nightingale. I just finished The Southern Book Club’s Guide to Slaying Vampires and I wasn’t crazy about it. It wasn’t what I was expecting it to be. I read glass castle a few years ago in a book club. It was well written, but depressing. My mother was also in the group, and she was so anti the redemptive quality that she ruined it for me. I’m adding it to my list to reread this year to try and redeem it for myself. I feel like such an outlier as I didn't enjoy The Glass Castle - I hated the parents so so much that I couldn't get passed that unfortunately.
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Post by dc2london on Jan 5, 2021 8:21:39 GMT -6
If no new books could come out for a while, that would be fantastic And I keep getting stuff from the library too. I has a problem I have...5 more books coming this month, and that should be it for quite some time Add me to the list of people with way more books bought than I really need, plus a healthy hold list at the library. In my latest bookstore haul, I put in five preorders for January books (The Ruthless Lady’s Guide to Wizardry, Hall of Smoke, The Ex Talk, Blood Heir, and Shipped)! I can’t stop myself getting the new releases! I'm like this with nonfiction. Every time a journalist i like writes a book i need to buy it.
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Post by loves2read on Jan 5, 2021 9:23:27 GMT -6
Add me to the list of people with way more books bought than I really need, plus a healthy hold list at the library. In my latest bookstore haul, I put in five preorders for January books (The Ruthless Lady’s Guide to Wizardry, Hall of Smoke, The Ex Talk, Blood Heir, and Shipped)! I can’t stop myself getting the new releases! I'm like this with nonfiction. Every time a journalist i like writes a book i need to buy it. Well, that’s just being supportive!
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Post by cdnfroggy on Jan 5, 2021 10:54:25 GMT -6
I finished my first book of 2021 - The Year of the Witching and I really enjoyed it. There are parts of it I wasn't a fan of - but overall I would highly recommend it!
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Post by tookie on Jan 5, 2021 11:39:45 GMT -6
Anyone in here doing the kindle challenge for $5 credit?
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Post by coffeandnaps on Jan 5, 2021 11:47:10 GMT -6
Anyone in here doing the kindle challenge for $5 credit? what is this?
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