addymac
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Post by addymac on Dec 26, 2020 21:32:49 GMT -6
Stupid question. If someone gets the vaccine could they still carry and transmit or no? This is literally my frustration at the lack of knowledge about this damn virus and subsequent vaccine. Not mad at anyone in particular bc everyone had been working their asses off to find a vaccine and treatments. But yeah. We don’t know. So I can’t see my fucking parents until I convince them to get the damn vaccine!!!!!
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Post by addymac on Dec 26, 2020 21:34:55 GMT -6
I need to vent to you all because you will understand. My cousins flew to Scottsdale yesterday or today and I am just so disappointed in them. I realize I have no control over other people and I need to release it, and I will...but why are people who should be smart, being so reckless? Even outside of the self preservation part, and even if they tested right before leaving or whatever, it just seems so selfish to me. It also angers me because I have spent months doing the right things and being careful and being cooped up with tiny children and it feels pointless when so many are being stupid. I won’t stop doing what I’m doing of course because I’m terrified of the risks. But these are the first people in my close group of family/friends that I have seen do something so stupid and without regard for others safety. I just really find no excuse for traveling right now unless you have to for work or emergency. I am ok on this hill. I sit on your hill and get SO angry. Bc literally the minute you step foot in an airport anything you did before that is POOF! Gone out the window. There is a 100% chance there is an active infectious Cv+ person in the airport and it could be the person standing next to you or on the other side of the terminal or airplane. But we don’t. Know. Fuck I hate people and I’m so mad for you. 💛
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Post by leahcar on Dec 26, 2020 23:13:02 GMT -6
I really hope they figure out quickly if vaccinated people can carry the virus. I so badly want to visit my mother and assume I will have a vaccine long before my kids. Air travel is a hell no to me until things are vastly improved.
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Post by dc2london on Dec 27, 2020 6:42:43 GMT -6
This would be wonderful
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Post by willow on Dec 27, 2020 8:50:33 GMT -6
I need to vent to you all because you will understand. My cousins flew to Scottsdale yesterday or today and I am just so disappointed in them. I realize I have no control over other people and I need to release it, and I will...but why are people who should be smart, being so reckless? Even outside of the self preservation part, and even if they tested right before leaving or whatever, it just seems so selfish to me. It also angers me because I have spent months doing the right things and being careful and being cooped up with tiny children and it feels pointless when so many are being stupid. I won’t stop doing what I’m doing of course because I’m terrified of the risks. But these are the first people in my close group of family/friends that I have seen do something so stupid and without regard for others safety. I just really find no excuse for traveling right now unless you have to for work or emergency. I am ok on this hill. I sit on your hill and get SO angry. Bc literally the minute you step foot in an airport anything you did before that is POOF! Gone out the window. There is a 100% chance there is an active infectious Cv+ person in the airport and it could be the person standing next to you or on the other side of the terminal or airplane. But we don’t. Know. Fuck I hate people and I’m so mad for you. 💛 And honestly the thing that makes me the most angry is that I am sure they have essential worker friends that see their posts and I can only imagine how much more angry they feel. Just as I am sure basically all of social media is frustrating for you.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 11:24:27 GMT -6
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addymac
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Post by addymac on Dec 27, 2020 12:05:02 GMT -6
I sit on your hill and get SO angry. Bc literally the minute you step foot in an airport anything you did before that is POOF! Gone out the window. There is a 100% chance there is an active infectious Cv+ person in the airport and it could be the person standing next to you or on the other side of the terminal or airplane. But we don’t. Know. Fuck I hate people and I’m so mad for you. 💛 And honestly the thing that makes me the most angry is that I am sure they have essential worker friends that see their posts and I can only imagine how much more angry they feel. Just as I am sure basically all of social media is frustrating for you. Oh you mean like DHs aunt and cousins? Aunt and her H live in Seattle. Kids live in NYC and Philly. And they all got together for the holidays in Seattle. I’m so stupid annoyed I refused to like any of their social media pics on principle. Like fuck you, assholes.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 12:30:31 GMT -6
If this is indeed a case of fraud, I hope it's prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law as promised - and that any guilty parties are sent to jail. I'm not surprised if some medical groups/patients are hoping to skip the line. I've read about people offering large donations to hospital systems for the shot. I just think it's heinous and bad karma, to say the least. www.cnbc.com/2020/12/27/covid-vaccine-ny-healthcare-provider-under-investigation-after-obtaining-doses.htmlOn Dec. 16, the company offered doses of the vaccine on a “first come first serve basis” through a social media post on Facebook. The post included a sign-up form for the elderly, people at high-risk, and those with underlying conditions. Umm, my physician/hospital group, and my county department of health, is not offering any such thing yet. OK, granted I'm in Illinois, but I know my hospital was among the first in the burbs to get Pfizer. I admit I'm curious how they'll scan to ensure that essential workers, high risk and underlying condition people have those elements. I mean, my Walgreens can look at my prescriptions, and my hospital and physicians group can take a look at my medical records, but not everyone has that in place. I think my county is planning mass vaccinations at some point, and it's sad, but I could see some people fib about their eligibility.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 12:34:20 GMT -6
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 27, 2020 13:09:27 GMT -6
I’m having a weird day. After being up all night coughing with a tightness in my chest, I went to urgent care. Covid was negative, but I was told I was in the high risk category because of my history with chronic bronchitis/pneumonia. It made sense and I’m feeling stupid that I didn’t realize that before. I get A LOT of sinus infections and they always go straight to my chest. Anyway, both the doc and the nurse practioner told me the majority of the patients they’d had put on a vent or die had the same history as me. I know many are in the same position and I’m feel selfish centering my feelings right now, but my anxiety is out of control today.
And the doctor told me under no circumstances should I travel to my sister’s wedding in June unless I’ve been fully vaccinated, which I already wasn’t planning to do, but anyway, fuck COVID.
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 27, 2020 13:12:24 GMT -6
And honestly the thing that makes me the most angry is that I am sure they have essential worker friends that see their posts and I can only imagine how much more angry they feel. Just as I am sure basically all of social media is frustrating for you. Oh you mean like DHs aunt and cousins? Aunt and her H live in Seattle. Kids live in NYC and Philly. And they all got together for the holidays in Seattle. I’m so stupid annoyed I refused to like any of their social media pics on principle. Like fuck you, assholes. Same! So many people from where I grew up traveled from out of town and gathered inside, no masks, and in bars. Fuck all of them.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 13:18:23 GMT -6
Dr. Cox, it wouldn't be human not to be concerned in your situation. Don't be hard on yourself! Glad you got a negative result, and crossing fingers you feel much better soon. But I think you were so smart not to dilly dally before seeking medical attention. I'm also considered pretty high risk by my internist (Type 2 diabetes), and with the new variant probably going around, I'm actually more cautious now that I was last spring. My doc pretty much told me that things would not be great if I catch COVID. Although, he also said they have more treatments to use in hospital now than they did, but still not much for at home treatment. This is a suburban, non-teaching hospital practice.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 13:31:07 GMT -6
greykitty I’ve got a GBS diagnosis history and I’m not surprised by that guidance at all. I can’t have any vaccines without consulting my neuro first and then being monitored for weeks/months after if I do need a vaccine.
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 27, 2020 14:07:42 GMT -6
greykitty, thank you. I’m sorry you’re in a high risk category. I feel I’ve been pretty careful, but this definitely made me aware of ways my family can do better.
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 14:07:51 GMT -6
greykitty I’ve got a GBS diagnosis history and I’m not surprised by that guidance at all. I can’t have any vaccines without consulting my neuro first and then being monitored for weeks/months after if I do need a vaccine. Hoping everything works out as well as possible. On one hand it’s marvelous that we already have vaccines; on the other hand, I’m sorry for the hoops that many of us may still have to jump through.
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Post by addymac on Dec 27, 2020 14:13:15 GMT -6
Ugh Dr. Cox I’m sorry. I hope you feel better soon. And yeah. It’s a terrifying thought to think of yourself being in a high risk group. It’s tough. And it’s ok to be in your feels about it. I remember when all this started dh and i tried to have a convo as to who would take care of DS if we both got sick and died and it was such a shitty convo to have. Like another level of hey if we die in a random car crash vs hey if we get this virus that we deal with every day at work.... Fuck Covid!
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Post by trueblue on Dec 27, 2020 14:17:55 GMT -6
I am a mix of feelings today. The 13YO tested negative which is absolutely great but isolating one family member is complicated. I didn’t realize how much I relied on H, as a touchstone, to keep my shit together. The 10YO and I get tested tomorrow afternoon. I have no idea what the results will be-after days of anxiety I have no appetite, my body aches, I am exhausted, and feeling like I have to cough/can’t get a breath. All of which are the normal for me and also symptoms. So that’s super helpful.
I sat down with a calendar and worse case scenario I test positive and isolation can’t happen the kids have to quarantine another 14 days after my 10. Which is Jan 20th.
Also, with the negative test from the 13YO and everyone else at the youth group meeting last Sunday it looks like H’s case was community acquired. My social media is filled with people living their best lives-including multi family get togethers, trips to the Caribbean, and going to arcades/similar. I am so mad that we tried to keep ourselves as safe as possible and we’re in this mess while everyone who is doing everything ‘wrong’ is just keeping on keeping on.
I don’t think I can do this again.
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Post by addymac on Dec 27, 2020 14:26:20 GMT -6
Im sorry trueblue. It’s a lot to do solo parenting with regular stress, Covid stress is another level. I hope the rest of tests are negative. Is it possible to just try taking it a few days. Don’t look so far ahead to January 20. Just look to December 31. Then take it a few days to a week at a time. Idk. It could help with the overwhelming anxiety of such a long stretch of quarantine. Hugs.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 14:29:55 GMT -6
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Post by trueblue on Dec 27, 2020 14:33:17 GMT -6
Im sorry trueblue. It’s a lot to do solo parenting with regular stress, Covid stress is another level. I hope the rest of tests are negative. Is it possible to just try taking it a few days. Don’t look so far ahead to January 20. Just look to December 31. Then take it a few days to a week at a time. Idk. It could help with the overwhelming anxiety of such a long stretch of quarantine. Hugs. Thank you-I am trying. Luckily anxiety and I are old friends and I have the tools to kind of/sort of/maybe handle it. Right now i am just getting through dinner and cleaning uo. Then to bedtime. Then i need to keep the house running through the day until tomorrow’s tests, which will dictate a lot. Per google(?) it seems like if respiratory issues are going to present themselves, day 5 is the likeliest time frame, which is Tuesday. I don’t know if that’s accurate or not but for now that’s where
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 27, 2020 14:38:03 GMT -6
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 14:39:51 GMT -6
addymac, I heard similar advice about taking it one day or just a few days at a time on the radio yesterday, and it made so much sense to me. I think before we had the vaccine I was more able to endure, so to speak, and just keep on keeping on. Now I'm afraid I'm far more anxious about the future when I think a vaccine is right in front of me. What if I get sick before I get the vaccine? What if there are production issues? What if, what if. I feel like I'm setting myself up for disappointment. So I'm really trying to just think about what can I do tomorrow or a few days out. Well, and looking forward to Falcon & Winter Soldier - supposedly this March!
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Post by trueblue on Dec 27, 2020 15:24:51 GMT -6
Thank you everyone. With no other adult here, and trying to keep as calm an exterior as possible for the kids, apparently this is where i am processing.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Dec 27, 2020 15:27:14 GMT -6
That is interesting because the latest that my friend, who works for a company developing a vaccination, showed me last week the latest efficacy for this one was only around 60%
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Post by greykitty on Dec 27, 2020 15:49:51 GMT -6
That is interesting because the latest that my friend, who works for a company developing a vaccination, showed me last week the latest efficacy for this one was only around 60% Is that the reason AZ was apparently messing around with the Sputnik vaccine? I dunno how well a combo shot like that will go over even if it got FDA approval; I least I would need a tremendous amount of handholding before saying, yay, AZ! As I said earlier, kind of knee jerk reaction, but there I am right now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2020 18:12:33 GMT -6
Thank you everyone. With no other adult here, and trying to keep as calm an exterior as possible for the kids, apparently this is where i am processing. That’s what we’re here for!
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Post by geekygirly on Dec 27, 2020 18:35:49 GMT -6
I am a mix of feelings today. The 13YO tested negative which is absolutely great but isolating one family member is complicated. I didn’t realize how much I relied on H, as a touchstone, to keep my shit together. The 10YO and I get tested tomorrow afternoon. I have no idea what the results will be-after days of anxiety I have no appetite, my body aches, I am exhausted, and feeling like I have to cough/can’t get a breath. All of which are the normal for me and also symptoms. So that’s super helpful. I sat down with a calendar and worse case scenario I test positive and isolation can’t happen the kids have to quarantine another 14 days after my 10. Which is Jan 20th. Also, with the negative test from the 13YO and everyone else at the youth group meeting last Sunday it looks like H’s case was community acquired. My social media is filled with people living their best lives-including multi family get togethers, trips to the Caribbean, and going to arcades/similar. I am so mad that we tried to keep ourselves as safe as possible and we’re in this mess while everyone who is doing everything ‘wrong’ is just keeping on keeping on. I don’t think I can do this again. I'm sorry trueblue. I was in this situation about 2 weeks ago when DH tested positive and it was really tough. He was isolated in the master bedroom/bathroom and luckily neither DD or I caught it. I hope everyone else tests negative and if there is anything you need please ask! Also, don't hesitate to commiserate here. It sucks. We too were being super careful and then DH got it at work. I totally feel you on the frustration that there are so many people other people out there just doing whatever and perfectly fine.
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Post by trueblue on Dec 27, 2020 18:53:50 GMT -6
Y’all are making me cry. I hope you each know that you are really wonderful humans.
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Post by clucky on Dec 27, 2020 22:53:24 GMT -6
trueblue hoping for best case scenario and you and your youngest are both negative. There may be days when a day at a time is too much and you may find breaking it down further is what you need. Sometimes it is by meals, snack times, and bedtime. Minimize what you feel you have to do and limit to what needs to be done to care for yourself and kids. It is okay to limit and only do what you have capacity for.
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