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Post by carmensandiego on Dec 1, 2020 13:31:05 GMT -6
LaRo422 - oh no! Fingers crossed it's a bug and not covid.
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Post by jaygee on Dec 1, 2020 13:42:05 GMT -6
We did Thanksgiving just on our own. It was nice. I liked it.
But I have post holiday blues especially as the writing is on the wall that Xmas will be the same. This is dear diary but my BIL and his wife are divorcing and it’s not amicable. It’s likely we will never have holidays the way we did before. So I’m in a bit of mourning. It will be ok in the end and I’ve had many transitions in holiday traditions in my life. But I’m sad we can’t have one last year the way it has been.
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Post by willow on Dec 1, 2020 14:34:53 GMT -6
I have accepted and am trying to deal with this lockdown once again but man, when I think about all the time that my grandparents are missing with my kids, it really breaks me up. My grandma looooooooves babies, so so so much. They have apple products so they can see our shared photo album that I add to daily, which is better than nothing. But babies are only babies for so long, and you never get that time back. I hate that my babies are getting so little interaction with my family. My parents got to see them once a week (which, without COVID, would have been way more just with how close our family is) until recently when we went back into stricter lockdown. I don't know when I'll let them see all 3 again yet and I hate it. It's for the best but damn. It's weird and shitty to think about how little my family will know of my twins' infancy because of this.
Right now we have our nanny and MIL only allowed in the house (MIL watches them twice a week). We are back to March/April pickup/delivery only unless absolutely have to go into a store, and then doctor is the only other place we go. I have PT tomorrow morning and I am dreading it because I just don't want to go to one more place to be exposed.
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Post by Bookshelves on Dec 1, 2020 15:17:19 GMT -6
We actually did limit our Thanksgiving to just the four of us, but then a (non-COVID) family emergency occurred yesterday, and I ended up emergency caretaker to two kids in our extended family all day. Who just spent an extended holiday break in FL. So. (It was a true emergency, but I am just... man, I would like to hang out with my parents again someday.) I’m so sorry about your emergency situation. How stressful. Thank you, I think all will be well, and I’m glad I was able to help out! It’s just crazy how much COVID complicates every-fucking-thing.
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Post by jaygee on Dec 1, 2020 16:11:29 GMT -6
I’m in a very stank mood about covid. CA is about to be put back on state wide lock down. Which I support but it’s going to be brutal. And in addition to our Governor recently breaking rules, the mayor of San Jose, which was the epicenter of the covid outbreak in Northern CA and has the strictest rules in the state, violated orders on Thanksgiving. I mean, I’m feeling pretty much like if even the people who talk to the scientists every day can’t get this right, what the hell man. I’m back to just watching out for me and mine and saying fuck everyone else. www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Jose-Sam-Liccardo-mayor-Thanksgiving-dinner-15766987.php
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Post by elle on Dec 1, 2020 16:17:23 GMT -6
I’m in a very stank mood about covid. CA is about to be put back on state wide lock down. Which I support but it’s going to be brutal. And in addition to our Governor recently breaking rules, the mayor of San Jose, which was the epicenter of the covid outbreak in Northern CA and has the strictest rules in the state, violated orders on Thanksgiving. I mean, I’m feeling pretty much like if even the people who talk to the scientists every day can’t get this right, what the hell man. I’m back to just watching out for me and mine and saying fuck everyone else. www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/San-Jose-Sam-Liccardo-mayor-Thanksgiving-dinner-15766987.phpYeah, I'm worried things are about to get really ugly.
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Post by lemondrop on Dec 1, 2020 16:20:15 GMT -6
lemondrop , thank you for sharing your expertise. A question - when you mentioned legitimate illness as a side effect of the vaccination, I think I've read a lot of comments on the web that it usually seems similar to the side effects of Shingrex. I took that one, and both days after the shots were mostly just a bit of an arm ache, a little headache and nausea. I am fortunate - I could just stay in bed and sleep it off. I guess that's what I was figuring for Pfizer and Moderna. Or, just wait and see how I react to it is probably the best course? My internist thinks I'll be in tranche 1B based on what he's seen up to yesterday. PDQ: poof
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Post by greykitty on Dec 1, 2020 17:31:30 GMT -6
lemondrop, thanks so much again! I can see why some stories are saying health authorities have to convey the potential side effects to people so they're prepared just in case, and more especially, that they come back for any second dose. My internist was pretty emphatic that I get the vaccine as soon as I'm eligible (couple of risk factors) I also hope employers understand that a paid day off may indeed be needed for those vaccinated - keeping my fingers crossed on that! And thanks again to all the people involved in making this vaccine a reality, especially in the face of unneeded, IMO, political pressure.
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Post by richard on Dec 1, 2020 17:36:02 GMT -6
We did Thanksgiving just on our own. It was nice. I liked it. But I have post holiday blues especially as the writing is on the wall that Xmas will be the same. This is dear diary but my BIL and his wife are divorcing and it’s not amicable. It’s likely we will never have holidays the way we did before. So I’m in a bit of mourning. It will be ok in the end and I’ve had many transitions in holiday traditions in my life. But I’m sad we can’t have one last year the way it has been. I'm sorry. I had a conversation with my mom yesterday and we're not doing Xmas together. She was okay with it, but I still feel bad. She lives on her own and my brother is in CA and won't be traveling anytime soon. She doesn't see my grandparents to keep them safe. I would have considered it since we can quarantine without school and she could too and she'd do it strictly. But if we did, it would be WWIII with my ILs who we canceled on for Thanskgiving (because my SIL works in two separate in-person jobs and my ILs wouldn't actually do a quarantine). Her birthday is in February and I'm going to rent a VRBO and if we can still do the quarantine thing, we'll get together then when it's not a tit-for-tat thing.
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Post by athn64 on Dec 1, 2020 17:39:09 GMT -6
We did Thanksgiving just on our own. It was nice. I liked it. But I have post holiday blues especially as the writing is on the wall that Xmas will be the same. This is dear diary but my BIL and his wife are divorcing and it’s not amicable. It’s likely we will never have holidays the way we did before. So I’m in a bit of mourning. It will be ok in the end and I’ve had many transitions in holiday traditions in my life. But I’m sad we can’t have one last year the way it has been. I'm sorry. I had a conversation with my mom yesterday and we're not doing Xmas together. She was okay with it, but I still feel bad. She lives on her own and my brother is in CA and won't be traveling anytime soon. She doesn't see my grandparents to keep them safe. I would have considered it since we can quarantine without school and she could too and she'd do it strictly. But if we did, it would be WWIII with my ILs who we canceled on for Thanskgiving (because my SIL works in two separate in-person jobs and my ILs wouldn't actually do a quarantine). Her birthday is in February and I'm going to rent a VRBO and if we can still do the quarantine thing, we'll get together then when it's not a tit-for-tat thing. I feel this in my bones. The whole tit for tat thing. FIL is planning on visiting for Christmas, but he has to cross 2 states for it. I think he's actually quarantining, but IDK. But we can't cancel with him, and still spend time with my parents who live in the same town and we can SEE actually taking steps to limit their outside interactions.
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Post by richard on Dec 1, 2020 17:48:55 GMT -6
I'm sorry. I had a conversation with my mom yesterday and we're not doing Xmas together. She was okay with it, but I still feel bad. She lives on her own and my brother is in CA and won't be traveling anytime soon. She doesn't see my grandparents to keep them safe. I would have considered it since we can quarantine without school and she could too and she'd do it strictly. But if we did, it would be WWIII with my ILs who we canceled on for Thanskgiving (because my SIL works in two separate in-person jobs and my ILs wouldn't actually do a quarantine). Her birthday is in February and I'm going to rent a VRBO and if we can still do the quarantine thing, we'll get together then when it's not a tit-for-tat thing. I feel this in my bones. The whole tit for tat thing. FIL is planning on visiting for Christmas, but he has to cross 2 states for it. I think he's actually quarantining, but IDK. But we can't cancel with him, and still spend time with my parents who live in the same town and we can SEE actually taking steps to limit their outside interactions. My SIL asked me on the Thanksgiving zoom if we were going to my hometown for Christmas. Which was very subtle, lol. I like her a lot but she was salty about Thanksgiving.
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Post by jaygee on Dec 1, 2020 18:12:06 GMT -6
We did Thanksgiving just on our own. It was nice. I liked it. But I have post holiday blues especially as the writing is on the wall that Xmas will be the same. This is dear diary but my BIL and his wife are divorcing and it’s not amicable. It’s likely we will never have holidays the way we did before. So I’m in a bit of mourning. It will be ok in the end and I’ve had many transitions in holiday traditions in my life. But I’m sad we can’t have one last year the way it has been. I'm sorry. I had a conversation with my mom yesterday and we're not doing Xmas together. She was okay with it, but I still feel bad. She lives on her own and my brother is in CA and won't be traveling anytime soon. She doesn't see my grandparents to keep them safe. I would have considered it since we can quarantine without school and she could too and she'd do it strictly. But if we did, it would be WWIII with my ILs who we canceled on for Thanskgiving (because my SIL works in two separate in-person jobs and my ILs wouldn't actually do a quarantine). Her birthday is in February and I'm going to rent a VRBO and if we can still do the quarantine thing, we'll get together then when it's not a tit-for-tat thing. Ugh. I’m sorry. People make it so much drama but it’s like a calculation thing on risk. Some people are just plain riskier than others. We were willing to have my dad over for thanksgiving because he’s very strict and on his own but not willing to have in laws over. But they also have their own bubble. So I just felt like everyone should bubble up so their was no odd person out. But then my dad decided to bubble with my grandpa so he wasn’t alone and I had some peace that everyone had a buddy. It’s just really hard. I love the holidays but I’m kind of ready for January so we can just get passed the hard stuff.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Dec 1, 2020 18:30:08 GMT -6
jaygee I also just want to skip ahead to January. My parents and SIL want to come here for Christmas and I just think it's a terrible idea. I know it's so hard for them to be away from my dd but I'm not sure it's worth the risk. They are going to guilt me so hard. ðŸ˜
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Post by jaygee on Dec 1, 2020 18:34:09 GMT -6
jaygee I also just want to skip ahead to January. My parents and SIL want to come here for Christmas and I just think it's a terrible idea. I know it's so hard for them to be away from my dd but I'm not sure it's worth the risk. They are going to guilt me so hard. 😠I’m sorry. Yeah, the guilt doesn’t help. I get that family misses DS but we all have to be strong. It doesn’t help that DS has literally grown 3 sizes this year.
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Post by athn64 on Dec 1, 2020 18:36:54 GMT -6
I have two nieces who are about to have birthdays (same day, 11 years apart, different families) and it's so hard. The almost 13 year old has had a really tough year and I want her to know we're thinking of her, but having an in-person gathering right now is so irresponsible.
But cases are starting to decline in our area thanks to the mitigations from Pritzker.
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Post by oreobitsy on Dec 1, 2020 18:38:50 GMT -6
Sending a cheers in solidarity to all of us feeling frustrated and sad about the loss of our family time this holiday season. The posts help me a lot because I feel less alone in what I’m feeling with my own family.
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Post by sctiger on Dec 1, 2020 18:44:11 GMT -6
Do you get the side effects after each vaccine dose?
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Post by athn64 on Dec 1, 2020 18:49:49 GMT -6
Do you get the side effects after each vaccine dose? Sounds like it's mostly after the second/final dose? I'm sure it differs for different people.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2020 19:07:41 GMT -6
I’m sure some in H’s family are talking all kinds of shit about us because we’ve seen my family and not theirs. Well we have made it abundantly clear that we won’t see them because they aren’t being safe, and if they would shape up we could plan a visit. So I really DGAF what they’re saying about us, it’s their choice and they know it. I am sad for MH who has sucky family. But for me I’ve just released it. We have our little pod and that’s all we need. Idk I’m in a zen place about it now I guess.
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Post by mathlete on Dec 1, 2020 20:41:24 GMT -6
DD woke up with a fever this morning. Only place she’s been is with me to the pharmacy last week to get my flu shot and then play with her friends (sisters) that are in our bubble, so idk. Here’s hoping it’s a quick bug bc I don’t want to get her tested. Anecdote, but my 4 year old just had a fever from Friday night to Monday morning. Not one other symptom. We got her tested yesterday to be sure, and she was negative. And totally 100% today. Weird bug I guess - hopefully the same for you!
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Post by fancynewbeesly on Dec 1, 2020 21:08:04 GMT -6
So I have become incredibly close with our nanny through all of them. Partly because I think for the majority of the time she is literally one of the ONLY adults I actually see daily. I mean, she is a great person and even though she is older than me (her 4 kids are all in their early 20s), like I almost pathetically don't want her to leave at the end of the day because for hours there is no one else to talk too.
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Post by Minerva on Dec 1, 2020 21:38:01 GMT -6
jaygee I also just want to skip ahead to January. My parents and SIL want to come here for Christmas and I just think it's a terrible idea. I know it's so hard for them to be away from my dd but I'm not sure it's worth the risk. They are going to guilt me so hard. 😠My parents want us to visit them. My mom is reeeally pushing and my DS really wants to go. We would have to quarantine for two weeks ahead and get tested 3 days before leaving, quarantine the first week we were there while getting tested on day 4 of the trip, and then quarantine and get tested a week after we return home to do it safely. Realistically, it’s not going to happen, but my mom is really struggling to come to terms with it.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Dec 1, 2020 21:46:38 GMT -6
jaygee I also just want to skip ahead to January. My parents and SIL want to come here for Christmas and I just think it's a terrible idea. I know it's so hard for them to be away from my dd but I'm not sure it's worth the risk. They are going to guilt me so hard. 😠My parents want us to visit them. My mom is reeeally pushing and my DS really wants to go. We would have to quarantine for two weeks ahead and get tested 3 days before leaving, quarantine the first week we were there while getting tested on day 4 of the trip, and then quarantine and get tested a week after we return home to do it safely. Realistically, it’s not going to happen, but my mom is really struggling to come to terms with it. My gosh, a logistical nightmare. I just keep thinking: a vaccine is coming. Let's hunker down now and see each other in the spring.
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Post by Uncaripswife on Dec 1, 2020 21:48:56 GMT -6
In the interests of full disclosure: I saw my parents last week. They quarantined before and are quarantined again now that they're home. While they visited us they didn't go anywhere. And I still think I made a mistake letting them come.
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Post by Minerva on Dec 1, 2020 21:53:50 GMT -6
In the interests of full disclosure: I saw my parents last week. They quarantined before and are quarantined again now that they're home. While they visited us they didn't go anywhere. And I still think I made a mistake letting them come. Mine visited in October and did basically the same with quarantines (NYS is a strict plane). It was soooo nice to see them, but I also worried about them the whole time.
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Post by cp3 on Dec 1, 2020 22:18:57 GMT -6
We stayed home for Thanksgiving and technically could have gotten together with my sister and her kids since we already see them weekly but we decided to do our own separate things to limit exposure.
I felt bad for my mom because she lives alone but she bubbled with my brother that also lives alone and WFH. I know if we would have had her over it would also have been a huge thing of drama with my MIL.
She was already passive aggressive of us not choosing to go to MH's great aunt's but she is in her late 80s and DD1 was still in person so it wasn't worth the risk. Then they ended up having girlfriends of MH'S brothers over after they were at their own family gatherings and MH is not happy at how much they exposed his great aunt. It just sucks how much we are trying to protect people and do the right thing and by doing so we miss out on time with family.
It all just sucks. Even my 2.5 year old has changed so much and it makes me sad how many people are missing it. Like her therapists haven't seen her in person in 10+ months and she is going to be aging out of EI soon and it makes me sad she won't be able to say goodbye to her therapists that she loves so much.
And she turned 2 the week things really amped up in March so we couldn't do anything for her birthday or see anyone and it just dawned on me that it will more than likely be the same for her 3rd birthday this coming March. It all just sucks and makes me sad at how much we have been missing this year.
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Post by carmensandiego on Dec 1, 2020 22:20:16 GMT -6
OMG... I love this! It's a quick primer on antibodies and immune response. There is sound - so mute if you're at work. 😉
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 1, 2020 23:11:13 GMT -6
We keep inching up closer to 2k daily cases here. Today was 1600+ Six weeks ago we were under 600. Six months ago less than 200. We aren’t a highly populated state so it’s infuriating. And yet there are people still yelling about masks. And abolishing health districts
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Post by AmyG on Dec 1, 2020 23:45:31 GMT -6
What does PCE stand for? Is this a dumb question? Politics Current Events and it drives me nuts every time. This is the politics board, just call it as it is. lol.
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 2, 2020 6:02:37 GMT -6
and it drives me nuts every time. This is the politics board, just call it as it is. lol. We talk current events as well. It’s just not our fault that for the last four years events have been centered on crimes and other actions committed by the occupant and his merry band of sycophants 😀
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