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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 13:40:42 GMT -6
Just a curious thought... I’m also wondering if this is just a southern thing.
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Post by jaidit on Sept 20, 2020 13:41:46 GMT -6
I was thinking about this while watching an old 4 weddings episode this week. It was set in plantation Florida. My first thought was, surely they’ve changed the names of these towns since then.
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Post by jorkzy on Sept 20, 2020 13:46:57 GMT -6
SS: have never seen that here.
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Post by STP on Sept 20, 2020 13:50:12 GMT -6
I grew up right near Plantation, FL. It bothered me then, and I have always wondered when it will be changed.
Isn’t there a restaurant chain called Soup Plantation? Oof.
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Post by STP on Sept 20, 2020 13:50:42 GMT -6
I was thinking about this while watching an old 4 weddings episode this week. It was set in plantation Florida. My first thought was, surely they’ve changed the names of these towns since then. Not yet.
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Post by bazi on Sept 20, 2020 14:02:47 GMT -6
I’ve never seen it in the Northeast.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:05:24 GMT -6
I’ve also heard that people wouldn’t let a name of a neighborhood stop them from buying their dream home. I’m interested to here from the yeses. I won’t be confrontational.
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Post by cactus on Sept 20, 2020 14:07:18 GMT -6
There are a lot of places near me named “Indian Trail Road” or “Indian Lake Place.” I would not live on a street/neighborhood with those names.
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Post by jaidit on Sept 20, 2020 14:07:25 GMT -6
Personally I could never. Just like I could never live in a home that was once a slave owning house. I couldn’t.
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Post by rvasc on Sept 20, 2020 14:09:07 GMT -6
I think in an extremely competitive housing market, with a limited income, and a good 30% (I’m guessing) of the Charleston area in a neighborhood with “plantation” in the name, it would give me pause, but I can’t say with 100% certainty that I wouldn’t do it.
It’s kind of like renaming the master bedroom. That’s fine, but the issue in real estate isn’t the name master bedroom.
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Post by rvasc on Sept 20, 2020 14:11:29 GMT -6
My Hispanic in laws live in a neighborhood with plantation in the name, and it is arguably one of the most racially diverse in the area. I’m not even sure why it’s name contains plantation.
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Post by elodin on Sept 20, 2020 14:13:02 GMT -6
We have nothing like that up here, but we have plenty of housing developments named after Native American tribes, and that has always bothered me. I would not buy a home in a development with the word Plantation in the name.
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Post by STP on Sept 20, 2020 14:13:54 GMT -6
I think in an extremely competitive housing market, with a limited income, and a good 30% (I’m guessing) of the Charleston area in a neighborhood with “plantation” in the name, it would give me pause, but I can’t say with 100% certainty that I wouldn’t do it. It’s kind of like renaming the master bedroom. That’s fine, but the issue in real estate isn’t the name master bedroom. To be fair, the etymology of master bedroom is rooted in boarding houses (headmaster) vs plantations or the like. Though I see no reason not to call them main or owners bedrooms/bathrooms.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 20, 2020 14:14:56 GMT -6
Personally I could never. Just like I could never live in a home that was once a slave owning house. I couldn’t. I don't believe she is talking about living at an actual plantation (pretty sure you'd have a hard time prying it from a family without major $$$). Like the name for the neighborhood/subdivision. As far as I know that is not a name used here. It would be a bit out of place here.
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Post by elodin on Sept 20, 2020 14:17:00 GMT -6
My dream home would never be found in a neighborhood....so there's that too.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Sept 20, 2020 14:17:10 GMT -6
I think in an extremely competitive housing market, with a limited income, and a good 30% (I’m guessing) of the Charleston area in a neighborhood with “plantation” in the name, it would give me pause, but I can’t say with 100% certainty that I wouldn’t do it. It’s kind of like renaming the master bedroom. That’s fine, but the issue in real estate isn’t the name master bedroom. To be fair, the etymology of master bedroom is rooted in boarding houses (headmaster) vs plantations or the like. Though I see no reason not to call them main or owners bedrooms/bathrooms. Interesting. I hadn't thought about where that term came from. And now my brain will remember it forever instead of items that actually serve a purpose in my life.
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Post by rvasc on Sept 20, 2020 14:18:57 GMT -6
I’m honestly having a hard time remembering about the neighborhoods in the town I grew up in, because nobody ever says the plantation part. They just say the first part. So the only way you’d know is by reading the entrance sign.
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Post by rvasc on Sept 20, 2020 14:20:09 GMT -6
Personally I could never. Just like I could never live in a home that was once a slave owning house. I couldn’t. I don't believe she is talking about living at an actual plantation (pretty sure you'd have a hard time prying it from a family without major $$$). Like the name for the neighborhood/subdivision. As far as I know that is not a name used here. It would be a bit out of place here. I do think many of them are on former plantation land.
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Post by rvasc on Sept 20, 2020 14:20:43 GMT -6
My white privilege is showing. Wow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:21:24 GMT -6
There are a lot of places near me named “Indian Trail Road” or “Indian Lake Place.” I would not live on a street/neighborhood with those names. I may regret asking but how come? I have never seen plantation in my area but we have a lot of Indian named areas. Is it appropriation or maybe something I'm completely unaware of?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:23:00 GMT -6
I don’t think I see the Native American tribe usage here. We do have Indian Trail Blvd a bit south of me. I think Indian Hills is a country club in Cobb. I’ll look out for it now because I’m curious. Flameful enough, i would purchase a home with Indian in the name.
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Post by thatgolfb on Sept 20, 2020 14:23:30 GMT -6
I had to go into mobile to see what the actual question was. My answer would be no. Fortunately I have never seen anything with Plantation in the name here in CA.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:23:57 GMT -6
I don’t want to play the oppression olympics though. I can understand why the use of Indian is distasteful.
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Post by STP on Sept 20, 2020 14:26:05 GMT -6
There are a lot of places near me named “Indian Trail Road” or “Indian Lake Place.” I would not live on a street/neighborhood with those names. I may regret asking but how come? I have never seen plantation in my area but we have a lot of Indian named areas. Is it appropriation or maybe something I'm completely unaware of? It’s the appropriation. We stole the land and murdered the people who lived here, and now we will use their language for our subdivisions.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:27:38 GMT -6
I don’t want to play the oppression olympics though. I can understand why the use of Indian is distasteful. Well that was kind of the reason for my follow up. There are still quite a few Indian/NA individuals and tribes in my general area. So I wasn't sure if it was appropriation or something else that made it distasteful to the person who mentioned it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:28:20 GMT -6
I may regret asking but how come? I have never seen plantation in my area but we have a lot of Indian named areas. Is it appropriation or maybe something I'm completely unaware of? It’s the appropriation. We stole the land and murdered the people who lived here, and now we will use their language for our subdivisions. Okay thanks! Said non snarkily
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Post by elodin on Sept 20, 2020 14:28:54 GMT -6
We have an entire huge neighborhood in my town that only uses native names as road names. Like, it's themed. But the neighborhood itself is called something totally mundane and you would have no idea until you drove in there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:30:22 GMT -6
Unfortunately Indian named things are like...super common here. I know multiple streets/subdivisions as well as a local school mascot is the Indians. 😬
But no plantation named things that I'm aware of.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 14:30:25 GMT -6
I don’t think I see the Native American tribe usage here. We do have Indian Trail Blvd a bit south of me. I think Indian Hills is a country club in Cobb. I’ll look out for it now because I’m curious. Flameful enough, i would purchase a home with Indian in the name. And I guess this is why people can live in neighborhoods with plantation in the name.
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Post by elodin on Sept 20, 2020 14:31:44 GMT -6
Lots of Indian this or that here too. The creek on my parent's property is called Indian Run.
Eta...they did not name it that. It's just what it's called.
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