guster
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Post by guster on Jul 13, 2020 10:03:50 GMT -6
I will admit I am nervous. It’s a prolonged exposure for the classroom/the bus, and conditions are not always ideal (only some schools in both of the districts I deal with have air-conditioning, classrooms be enough to properly socially distance, etc.) they have the money but I don’t know how they will allocate it. Josie’s class is tiny. They haven’t discussed alternate days, but if they did there would be five in one class and six in another if everyone goes back. And it is a different story entirely for mh who has 125-150 kids a day and a co-teacher who’s immune-compromised and in her 60s.
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Post by wineallthetime on Jul 13, 2020 10:22:05 GMT -6
C loooves wearing a mask, but he has only worn it while in the car while the grocery store employee is loading up our groceries or once when we went to an outdoor walk up ice cream place.
I really want school to happen but I'm going to need to see a TON of precautions and really won't know how comfortable I am until we get closer. I want at least all adult staff to be tested weekly, no bus, no cafeteria, masks, tons of hand washing, classroom/building fully disinfected each day, if a kid/staff member is sick they need a COVID test before coming back, ect.
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Post by mwhip on Jul 13, 2020 10:29:30 GMT -6
C loooves wearing a mask, but he has only worn it while in the car while the grocery store employee is loading up our groceries or once when we went to an outdoor walk up ice cream place. I really want school to happen but I'm going to need to see a TON of precautions and really won't know how comfortable I am until we get closer. I want at least all adult staff to be tested weekly, no bus, no cafeteria, masks, tons of hand washing, classroom/building fully disinfected each day, if a kid/staff member is sick they need a COVID test before coming back, ect. What kind of symptoms would require the testing? Evie sneezes a lot every morning. I know it's allergies, but if she sneezes in the classroom, are they going to call me, I have to get her picked up, and find some place to have her tested everytime? At my expense? It wouldn't be worth it for me to send her to public school at that point. And I get it, I'm just wondering how it would work.
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vino
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Post by vino on Jul 13, 2020 10:59:31 GMT -6
You guys have to pay for tests? is that everywhere in the states?
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mwhip
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Post by mwhip on Jul 13, 2020 11:04:30 GMT -6
You guys have to pay for tests? is that everywhere in the states? I honestly don't know. I saw a friend post on FB what their insurance company paid and what their portion was, but I've also heard of drive through testing, which I don't know how that works either. Testing still isn't readily available, at least in my area.
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Post by wineallthetime on Jul 13, 2020 11:12:14 GMT -6
You guys have to pay for tests? is that everywhere in the states? I haven't heard of anyone having to pay.
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Post by wineallthetime on Jul 13, 2020 11:14:53 GMT -6
C loooves wearing a mask, but he has only worn it while in the car while the grocery store employee is loading up our groceries or once when we went to an outdoor walk up ice cream place. I really want school to happen but I'm going to need to see a TON of precautions and really won't know how comfortable I am until we get closer. I want at least all adult staff to be tested weekly, no bus, no cafeteria, masks, tons of hand washing, classroom/building fully disinfected each day, if a kid/staff member is sick they need a COVID test before coming back, ect. What kind of symptoms would require the testing? Evie sneezes a lot every morning. I know it's allergies, but if she sneezes in the classroom, are they going to call me, I have to get her picked up, and find some place to have her tested everytime? At my expense? It wouldn't be worth it for me to send her to public school at that point. And I get it, I'm just wondering how it would work. Honestly I don't know. I mean, a sneeze...no. I get that kids are nasty and constantly coughing and have runny noses so my comment was probably extreme. I just don't know and I'm extra about COVID!
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mwhip
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Post by mwhip on Jul 13, 2020 11:16:58 GMT -6
What kind of symptoms would require the testing? Evie sneezes a lot every morning. I know it's allergies, but if she sneezes in the classroom, are they going to call me, I have to get her picked up, and find some place to have her tested everytime? At my expense? It wouldn't be worth it for me to send her to public school at that point. And I get it, I'm just wondering how it would work. Honestly I don't know. I mean, a sneeze...no. I get that kids are nasty and constantly coughing and have runny noses so my comment was probably extreme. I just don't know and I'm extra about COVID! I like the idea...but with the bizarre array of symptoms, plus people testing positive and being asymptomatic, I'm just wonder how it would work.
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nam2013
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Post by nam2013 on Jul 13, 2020 11:37:52 GMT -6
We have those drive through testing, it is literally like a McDonald’s for COVID tests.
If your child has a runny nose/coughing and is older than 5 than you’re to stay home. It started out with kids of all ages, but kids <6 practically always have a runny noise (well at least in my household 😉), so they loosened the rules for that age group.
They advise against testing young kids to fast, because it can be quiet the ordeal apparently.
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yummeecookee
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Post by yummeecookee on Jul 13, 2020 11:39:54 GMT -6
Re. COVID testing - one of the provisions of the CARES Act requires private health insurance to cover the cost of COVID testing w no cost sharing to the member.
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vino
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Post by vino on Jul 13, 2020 11:40:46 GMT -6
We have those drive through testing, it is literally like a McDonald’s for COVID tests. If your child has a runny nose/coughing and is older than 5 than you’re to stay home. It started out with kids of all ages, but kids <6 practically always have a runny noise (well at least in my household 😉), so they loosened the rules for that age group. They advise against testing young kids to fast, because it can be quiet the ordeal apparently. We have drive through testing here at some locations and apparently it was well run, I went to a walk in with an appointment time. The kids both had the nasal swab and sure it wasnt enjoyable but it's a necessary evil I guess. I just told them both, listen this isnt great but we're going to go in be brave and then we're out. While I get where you are coming from and with the lower numbers in kids, not getting tested cause it's an ordeal, especially if there are symptoms is a mistake IMO.
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Post by tgrimes on Jul 13, 2020 11:46:18 GMT -6
H had a covid test this morning and it was no big deal. All insurance companies are supposed to cover the costs of tests and for those that don't have insurance, there are drive thru locations around here where they can get tests for free.
MH had to have one last week and even though it was at an urgent care clinic, they're doing the tests in the parking lot for the safety of all of the employees.
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Post by nam2013 on Jul 13, 2020 11:51:11 GMT -6
We have those drive through testing, it is literally like a McDonald’s for COVID tests. If your child has a runny nose/coughing and is older than 5 than you’re to stay home. It started out with kids of all ages, but kids <6 practically always have a runny noise (well at least in my household 😉), so they loosened the rules for that age group. They advise against testing young kids to fast, because it can be quiet the ordeal apparently. We have drive through testing here at some locations and apparently it was well run, I went to a walk in with an appointment time. The kids both had the nasal swab and sure it wasnt enjoyable but it's a necessary evil I guess. I just told them both, listen this isnt great but we're going to go in be brave and then we're out. While I get where you are coming from and with the lower numbers in kids, not getting tested cause it's an ordeal, especially if there are symptoms is a mistake IMO. Kids are getting tested, they just don’t stimulate young children with just a runny nose, no other symptoms to get tested, you could if you wanted to.
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Post by tgrimes on Jul 13, 2020 11:51:24 GMT -6
I listened to a zoom meeting this morning with the local teachers union as well as the head of the custodial staff and busing for our school district. with the standards they have put in place for cleaning/sanitizing, they said they are already understaffed and the majority of the custodial staff and bus drivers are elderly and would probably not be returning to work. So now you have an even greater shortage of custodians and bus drivers.
The lady said our school district, governor, and president should be ashamed of themselves for opening too soon. Lol. She was pretty entertaining.
The teachers union said they were reaching out to all teachers to see if they felt comfortable returning to work. For those that don't or are in a high risk category, they'd do everything in their power to get them virtual teaching positions.
No mention about what happens if/when a student, teacher or staff member tests positive for covid.
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guster
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Post by guster on Jul 13, 2020 11:54:01 GMT -6
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tgrimes
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Post by tgrimes on Jul 13, 2020 12:42:47 GMT -6
I mean, they're not wrong.
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Post by mwhip on Jul 13, 2020 13:02:39 GMT -6
Re. COVID testing - one of the provisions of the CARES Act requires private health insurance to cover the cost of COVID testing w no cost sharing to the member. Thank you! I wasn't aware. That's good to know because honestly, if I had to pay $100 OOP, I probably wouldn't get tested and would just quarantine for 14 days if I 'thought' I had it. So I'm glad to know this.
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Post by lahdeedah on Jul 13, 2020 13:30:26 GMT -6
You guys have to pay for tests? is that everywhere in the states? In some places yes. There are some areas that have free clinics but it’s not every day. If you go to a primary clinic or docs office, I think you may have to pay depending on insurance.
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Post by lahdeedah on Jul 13, 2020 13:36:36 GMT -6
Re. COVID testing - one of the provisions of the CARES Act requires private health insurance to cover the cost of COVID testing w no cost sharing to the member. I thought I heard something about this, but it said there was an end date to it. Is that right? ETA: I have had people say they had to pay a copay or something. That may be for other kinds of tests though- like rapid or blood draws? Not sure.
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Post by tgrimes on Jul 13, 2020 15:36:59 GMT -6
Re. COVID testing - one of the provisions of the CARES Act requires private health insurance to cover the cost of COVID testing w no cost sharing to the member. I thought I heard something about this, but it said there was an end date to it. Is that right? ETA: I have had people say they had to pay a copay or something. That may be for other kinds of tests though- like rapid or blood draws? Not sure. My SIL went to an urgent care clinic so she had to pay her copay for urgent care to be seen. But didn’t have to pay for the covid test. Just like if you were going to get a flu or strep test at your PCP, urgent care or ER, you’d have to pay your copay. The urgent care MH went to had an online registration process if you just needed a covid test. They text you your appt time after you register with them.
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Post by lahdeedah on Jul 13, 2020 16:16:09 GMT -6
I thought I heard something about this, but it said there was an end date to it. Is that right? ETA: I have had people say they had to pay a copay or something. That may be for other kinds of tests though- like rapid or blood draws? Not sure. My SIL went to an urgent care clinic so she had to pay her copay for urgent care to be seen. But didn’t have to pay for the covid test. Just like if you were going to get a flu or strep test at your PCP, urgent care or ER, you’d have to pay your copay. The urgent care MH went to had an online registration process if you just needed a covid test. They text you your appt time after you register with them. Gotcha. So it “costs” if you go somewhere with a copay Vs. state sponsored drive through clinics.
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Post by kim22 on Jul 13, 2020 16:17:00 GMT -6
So we got a parent survey today asking if we would send our kids with the plans they are thinking of. They are looking at everyday for elementary but possibly shortened hours but with before and aftercare offered and every other for middle/high school. Elementary would have those plastic dividers around each desk and they ask us to order from what we want most/least regarding masks from all the time to just hallways to never. Our superintended also did a good interview I watched on YouTube with the department of ed. He seems well in tuned to the needs of the community and we have to have a plan out by August 3.
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Post by wedding on Jul 13, 2020 16:44:30 GMT -6
I don’t see the point of constant testing unless the person then quarantines while waiting results. If I tested negative today I can pick it up tomorrow morning and spread it for the week until my next test which will show a positive.
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Post by kim22 on Jul 13, 2020 17:03:32 GMT -6
I don’t see the point of constant testing unless the person then quarantines while waiting results. If I tested negative today I can pick it up tomorrow morning and spread it for the week until my next test which will show a positive. I agree, unless there is a known outbreak in a community, it seems like a waste. Am I mean that I’d be okay with the school just doing the test in this case? My kids would be way less dramatic for their school nurse than me and their pediatrician. When I was in school, a girl in my class got tuberculosis and we were all tested right away and 3 and 6 months later and that involved injecting that stuff under our skin. I do not remember any parents objecting to that.
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Post by vino on Jul 13, 2020 17:06:04 GMT -6
I don’t see the point of constant testing unless the person then quarantines while waiting results. If I tested negative today I can pick it up tomorrow morning and spread it for the week until my next test which will show a positive. It is definitely stated that you have has to stay home while awaiting test results, also even if you aren't feeling well you are to stay home until you feel better, positive or negative
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Post by wedding on Jul 13, 2020 17:09:47 GMT -6
I don’t see the point of constant testing unless the person then quarantines while waiting results. If I tested negative today I can pick it up tomorrow morning and spread it for the week until my next test which will show a positive. It is definitely stated that you have has to stay home while awaiting test results, also even if you aren't feeling well you are to stay home until you feel better, positive or negative Unfortunately many States are seeing waits of 10-14 days for results so that makes it more useless.
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Post by wedding on Jul 13, 2020 17:10:08 GMT -6
What is your test turnaround in Canada? vino
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Post by wedding on Jul 13, 2020 17:20:16 GMT -6
They just told us our plan. This is all assuming our numbers stay about the same. If we get hit hard it will be full distance learning.
K-6 in person but can opt for virtual. All classes will be filmed and on zoom. If they need to cut down to 50% at any time they would go to a split model like 7-12 with preference of in person classes to those with IEPs and who struggle with distance learning.
7-12 would split the week. One group Tues/Wed each week and one Thurs/Fri. Monday’s would switch every week. Those at home would join the class live through Zoom.
Students may or may not wear masks. They are looking for better guidance from the State in terms of if they can enforce the kids to wear them. Teachers will wear masks. Lunch in classrooms. Outdoor classes whenever possible. Stay within their group all day. Desks six ft apart. All Specials like Art where they would usually go to another room will now be in the classroom and the teacher will go there and be socially distanced.
Buses are about half capacity if everyone is masked. They sent a survey asking if anyone will opt out so they can plan numbers of buses.
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Post by mwhip on Jul 13, 2020 17:54:13 GMT -6
I don’t see the point of constant testing unless the person then quarantines while waiting results. If I tested negative today I can pick it up tomorrow morning and spread it for the week until my next test which will show a positive. I agree, unless there is a known outbreak in a community, it seems like a waste. Am I mean that I’d be okay with the school just doing the test in this case? My kids would be way less dramatic for their school nurse than me and their pediatrician. When I was in school, a girl in my class got tuberculosis and we were all tested right away and 3 and 6 months later and that involved injecting that stuff under our skin. I do not remember any parents objecting to that. Oh man. I cant even imagine the outrage some parents would have now to testing their kids regularly.
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Post by lahdeedah on Jul 13, 2020 19:03:45 GMT -6
I don’t see testing weekly happening for anyone in public schools. A lot of states have seen budget cuts in education and from what MH says, testing is expensive. They were trying to model bigger conference schools for sports, but they just don’t have the financial means for the cost of testing on a regular basis. If smaller universities don’t have the money for testing just for athletes, I doubt that public schools will have that extra money. And we all know the federal government won’t take on the responsibility.
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