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Post by oreobitsy on Nov 7, 2019 23:30:21 GMT -6
I donāt get the reasoning behind not giving just a little to make sure our children, the future generations are fed, looked after in a safe and secure environment. Why the immediate response is to throw up every single it could never work excuse. Iām gonna go west wing here. āWhy not make it just a bit easier? Not a handout but just a bit easier.ā This is where I'm at with it. For those communities who don't have the resources or the ability to make it work, let's see what happens if we help the communities provide for their children. A pilot program doesn't mean concrete or that it has to be set in stone. It means there is room to change and make adjustments based on the the results.
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Post by jaygee on Nov 7, 2019 23:34:13 GMT -6
I donāt get the reasoning behind not giving just a little to make sure our children, the future generations are fed, looked after in a safe and secure environment. Why the immediate response is to throw up every single it could never work excuse. Iām gonna go west wing here. āWhy not make it just a bit easier? Not a handout but just a bit easier.ā Honestly, and this may be an UO but I think itās more important than free college. I mean, I want both, but if I had to pick Iād pick better and more comprehensive early education.
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Post by blurnette989 on Nov 8, 2019 0:30:57 GMT -6
Let's all just pause for a second on Americans losing their minds over the idea of expanding the (already overly cramped, according to teachers) school day when that's not even what the bill does, while Portugal has a program with "prolongue" in its actual name. And people love it. Lol.
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Post by blurnette989 on Nov 8, 2019 0:47:23 GMT -6
Let's all just pause for a second on Americans losing their minds over the idea of expanding the (already overly cramped, according to teachers) school day when that's not even what the bill does, while Portugal has a program with "prolongue" in its actual name. I've been reading along and casually wondering how, say, additional time to play or relax, and some more time to eat lunch would help "make up" the time gap. No additional teaching time, just basically breaks throughout the day. This is all in addition to actually paying teachers a decent wage and for all their time worked, naturally, here in my ideal world. Ah so like a 9-5 schedule with snack at 10:30 for 30 minutes, lunch at 12 for 1.5 hours and afternoon snack at 3:30 for30 minutes. Yep that my first graders schedule. And school ends at 5 and if they don't take the bus, we have until 5:30 to pick them up. They just play in the courtyard. Prolongamento is after that until 7. And they given another snack. Usually yogurt and fruit or a small cheese or chouriƧo sandwich. Eta- re: lunch the kids don't sit there for 1.5 hours. They take their time eating but then can go play in the courtyard/playground or go to the library to read/ pick a book.
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Post by LaRo422 on Nov 8, 2019 4:28:12 GMT -6
so, so true. And also, the affordability of child care shouldn't be a determination of whether a parent works outside of the home or not. Maybe both parents WANT to work. Maybe putting their careers on hold for a few years could undermine their long term professional goals. I am so, so privileged to be able to stay home bc I WANT to stay at home but that's not what every parent wants. and too many parents are forced to work who would like to stay at home. It's unfortunate that the decision whether to work outside the home or not while your children are very young is forced upon families for any reason other than what works best for that famiiy. *This is not an Andrew Yang endorsement.Ā I wanted to stay home, too. It's just been the last six months or so that I've wanted...more. Up until then, I've loved it. I still love it for the most part. I'm probably not making a whole lot of sense. Anyway. To the rest of it, yes! I have friends who want to work and can't. I have friends who want to stay home and can't. It sucks all around. My mom stayed home with us, also homeschooled us, and it was totally her thing. It is not my thing. Sheās tried to get me to homeschool them, find ways to stay home with them, and itās just not for me. Unfortunately, Iāve pretty much been stay at home because I donāt have a choice (health has sidelined me for a while), but as soon as I can, Iām going back to work. Iāve loved my time with my kids, but theyāre not my whole life and I need to do something outside of being their mom. Also, weāre broke as shit and need the extra income lol. My dad has even stepped in and told her that some women want to work, and some women want to stay home. Wanting to do one or the other doesnāt take away from the woman as a person, a wife, or a mother. What a concept lol. Iām so glad one of my parents gets it. Also, when I was working, looking for jobs, and when I plan to in the (hopefully) near future, Iāve always had to consider after school childcare. It boils down to not being able to afford it, so I have had to get only part time jobs, or ones where I make my own schedule (lots of on demand/independent contractor stuff which isnāt steady pay). That means I canāt start my work day, as in leaving the house, until 7, and be home by 2:30, at the latest. If I have to commute, that shortens my day even more. We have an after school program here, but spots are limited, and it runs about $300 a month. Thatās what it was 5 years ago when my oldest was in elementary school, so itās at least that much now. We canāt afford the extra money, so it narrows down the jobs I can take. My oldest is in high school and gets home an hour after she does, but even if he got home before, that doesnāt solve the problem entirely. If he wants to do extra curricular activities or get a job, he canāt do that. I like what somewhat said several posts (or pages back) about giving it a chance. Itās a pilot program. No program is going to be perfect right out of the gate. Itās what pilot programs are for. Things may look perfect on paper and just donāt end up working out the way you plan. But anything is better than what most places have now, which is nothing. Letās try something and give people a chance. I know families like mine could benefit, and there are plenty of families that struggle more than mine do that would be so relieved if something like this were available. And if it gives teachers a way to make more money, thatās great too. Many of my high school friends are teachers and almost all have a second job. Many of them do Shipt/InstaCart and the like, and many of them do VIPKid, which is teaching ESL online to Chinese students (my mom does it and the hours are a bit much, especially if youāre already teaching at school every day). If theyāre going to be working, may as well be working in the same place and saving themselves another commute. I just wish people would give things a chance before completely shutting them down.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 8, 2019 5:38:10 GMT -6
I donāt get the reasoning behind not giving just a little to make sure our children, the future generations are fed, looked after in a safe and secure environment. Why the immediate response is to throw up every single it could never work excuse. Iām gonna go west wing here. āWhy not make it just a bit easier? Not a handout but just a bit easier.ā Honestly, and this may be an UO but I think itās more important than free college. I mean, I want both, but if I had to pick Iād pick better and more comprehensive early education. I agree with you. Early childhood education school lunch healthcare. I think housing and food security should be at the top
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Post by dc2london on Nov 8, 2019 6:28:24 GMT -6
I donāt get the reasoning behind not giving just a little to make sure our children, the future generations are fed, looked after in a safe and secure environment. Why the immediate response is to throw up every single it could never work excuse. Iām gonna go west wing here. āWhy not make it just a bit easier? Not a handout but just a bit easier.ā Honestly, and this may be an UO but I think itās more important than free college. I mean, I want both, but if I had to pick Iād pick better and more comprehensive early education. That was my first thought after the "daycare costs more than college in some places" thing. Some of the same people screaming that college should be free tried to strike this down immediately.
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Post by coconutbacon on Nov 8, 2019 6:30:16 GMT -6
I donāt get the reasoning behind not giving just a little to make sure our children, the future generations are fed, looked after in a safe and secure environment. Why the immediate response is to throw up every single it could never work excuse. Iām gonna go west wing here. āWhy not make it just a bit easier? Not a handout but just a bit easier.ā Honestly, and this may be an UO but I think itās more important than free college. I mean, I want both, but if I had to pick Iād pick better and more comprehensive early education. Definitely. Free college only benefits those who are going to go to college. And thatās less likely if you havenāt had early education. So the premise of free college, while not bad, is something thatās already most benefiting those with some privilege/ advantages.
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 8, 2019 6:44:39 GMT -6
Good Morning all, I found this this morning. It is an amazing well done article on our current status of White privilege in America today. It's amazing to see how we have made almost no progress in about 30 years. The state of white privilege in 2019I do have some questions about doing better but I have trouble putting into words how to ask the questions I want to ask because I am honestly confused about some expectations which may in itself maybe privilege in itself. But I am always willing to talk and learn. And I am more open and honest to do so than most based on the culture at my job.
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 8, 2019 6:59:38 GMT -6
Good Morning all, I found this this morning. It is an amazing well done article on our current status of White privilege in America today. It's amazing to see how we have made almost no progress in about 30 years. The state of white privilege in 2019I do have some questions about doing better but I have trouble putting into words how to ask the questions I want to ask because I am honestly confused about some expectations which may in itself maybe privilege in itself. But I am always willing to talk and learn. And I am more open and honest to do so than most based on the culture at my job. Not to quote myself but I guess this is a good topic today since Trump is holding an event called "Black Voices for Trump." Sooooo there's that. Not sure what their "for" arguments are.
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Post by Rebel on Nov 8, 2019 7:08:04 GMT -6
KY people are fired up- against Moscow Mitch today.
Mitch has a potential R challenger- Matt Jones, a sports radio host. Apparently the GOP filed an FEC compliant because āJones has been using his radio show as a platform for his campaignā, and he was removed from his host duties. KY Rs are blaming Mitch and pissed.
Jones is saying he isnāt even a candidate yet (just launched an exploratory committee) and that he hadnāt been talking about his potential campaign on air. Regardless, he isnāt on air right now.
I need the KY Rs to maintain this level of pissed-at-Mitch til 2020
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Nov 8, 2019 7:25:18 GMT -6
Also, re: Kamala's plan: One of the schools I taught in served a very low SES population. Virtually 100% rent vs own, 100% ESL, 100% free meals, etc. The school acted as a food pantry and on Fridays families could bring a bag or box and fill it up with food to get them through the weekend. The neighborhood was also impacted by gang activity. Kids would tell me stories of hearing gunfire while they tried to sleep. The county made a plan to offer universal pre k starting at age 3 and expanded free and low cost after school enrichment programs--everything from homework help, to basketball, to cooking classes. The thinking was that getting kids to school every day at age 3 would give them a head start on early literacy skills, help them learn english (many lived in completely non-english speaking homes), ensure that no child was left home unsupervised bc a parent couldn't find or afford child care, ensured that every kid between the ages of 3 and 17 got two meals a day, and provided opportunities for mentorship for all kids. Side effect benefits would be that, hopefully, standardized test scores would improve over time, public health would improve, crime would decrease, and it would help parents in the community breathe a little more easily not having to figure out how to pay for childcare for those extra two years. Not one person said, "How dare you make my kid start school at age 3." What people said was, 'Wow, this is amazing! Free pre k for my 3 year old? I LOVE IT." THIS is what we need. Policies to fund programs like these that attempt to level the playing field. We used to live in a rural part of Texas. We had moved there for my husbands job, I didnāt know anyone and his CEO suggested I join junior league to meet people. So I did. lol They had ONE committee I wanted to be a part of. A newly developed program to provide bags of food to kids who otherwise wouldnāt eat on the weekends. It grew quickly- we started with just a few schools and we had principals coming to us to beg us to expand to their school. Hunger was rampant. In the fucking US. Wtf. Anyways, the school district helped us track these kids (anonymously- they assigned them numbers, we didnāt know names), because they knew if we could provide hard data about improved grades, attendance, behavior, etc that funding would increase. The results were incredible. Attendance increased over 300%. Grades increased by 70%. Behavior issues declined (somewhat hard to track, it was a lot of anecdotes from teachers). These kids were healthier. Happier. Able to focus. Things that higher SES students (and their parents) take for granted. Would a federally funded program like that benefit my kids? Hell yes. Not because we need or would accept the food. But because healthier, happier, attentive classmates benefits them. Because healthier, happier kids benefit society. Our church is starting a program with the local elementary school to provide backpacks of food for the weekend. I was crying when they introduced it last weekend because I felt so sheltered not to even realize it was a problem in our area. They are starting with a goal of 50 kids for the school year, but it was introduced during our community outreach day so Iām hoping we will be able to fund more.
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Post by Rebel on Nov 8, 2019 7:59:27 GMT -6
THIS is what we need. Policies to fund programs like these that attempt to level the playing field. We used to live in a rural part of Texas. We had moved there for my husbands job, I didnāt know anyone and his CEO suggested I join junior league to meet people. So I did. lol They had ONE committee I wanted to be a part of. A newly developed program to provide bags of food to kids who otherwise wouldnāt eat on the weekends. It grew quickly- we started with just a few schools and we had principals coming to us to beg us to expand to their school. Hunger was rampant. In the fucking US. Wtf. Anyways, the school district helped us track these kids (anonymously- they assigned them numbers, we didnāt know names), because they knew if we could provide hard data about improved grades, attendance, behavior, etc that funding would increase. The results were incredible. Attendance increased over 300%. Grades increased by 70%. Behavior issues declined (somewhat hard to track, it was a lot of anecdotes from teachers). These kids were healthier. Happier. Able to focus. Things that higher SES students (and their parents) take for granted. Would a federally funded program like that benefit my kids? Hell yes. Not because we need or would accept the food. But because healthier, happier, attentive classmates benefits them. Because healthier, happier kids benefit society. Our church is starting a program with the local elementary school to provide backpacks of food for the weekend. I was crying when they introduced it last weekend because I felt so sheltered not to even realize it was a problem in our area. They are starting with a goal of 50 kids for the school year, but it was introduced during our community outreach day so Iām hoping we will be able to fund more. Do you have a local food bank? If so, look into partnering with them if you havenāt yet. They were helpful in getting the program off the ground, got better rates on food than we could on our own (so we could feed more kids) and let us use their facilities so we could pack and load. They also helped us determine what foods were good to send- non perishables, include stuff that doesnāt have to be cooked in case there isnāt a parent present or they were without electricity. Calorie dense, high protein foods. And stuff kids will actually eat. If you have a local education foundation they might be good partners as well. Another thing that was helpful is we had levels of giving. $300 feed one child for a year $1500 feed a class for a year (bc not everyone in the class needed this) $10,000 feed a school for a year. Etc. Those numbers arenāt exact, I forget what they were but general idea. People liked to know the impact they were having. Anyways. What you and your church is doing is awesome. It completely shocked me when I learned the level of hunger in that community. If I can be of any help, donāt hesitate to PM me
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Post by jaygee on Nov 8, 2019 8:13:00 GMT -6
Good Morning all, I found this this morning. It is an amazing well done article on our current status of White privilege in America today. It's amazing to see how we have made almost no progress in about 30 years. The state of white privilege in 2019I do have some questions about doing better but I have trouble putting into words how to ask the questions I want to ask because I am honestly confused about some expectations which may in itself maybe privilege in itself. But I am always willing to talk and learn. And I am more open and honest to do so than most based on the culture at my job. There is a concept in anti-racism work that is if youāre not uncomfortable, youāre not learning. In order to grow and learn and do better as white people (move from being performative allies to true allies) we have to be willing to risk being uncomfortable, making mistakes, owning up to our biases and lack of knowledge. We also have to admit that it is our job as the benefits of systems built and fueled by white supremacy to dismantle that. The job should not fall to the oppressed. So, if you want to dialogue on this, letās do it. Here or a separate thread. Iām willing and available to share what Iāve learned and the resources I have gathered since Iāve been focusing on anti-racism. Iām still learning and growing every day on this journey.
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Post by jaygee on Nov 8, 2019 8:15:45 GMT -6
I have worked in the state prison system for 21 years. I am also a single mom with a single child (9) the ENTIRE reason I cant retire is health care. I pay 100$ a night for reliable overnight care. I would love to leave but the economics don't work. I totally understand parents who cant afford to work, I know lots of families that make that choice, but for me- healthcare is the big barrier to doing what I want. Uncoupling healthcare from employment would be such a game changer for so many people. I hope it becomes a reality soon.
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Post by dc2london on Nov 8, 2019 8:44:20 GMT -6
Jeeeeeeessssssis Rep. Jim Jordan has denied knowing anything about what Strauss did to the wrestlers he helped coach from 86 to 94. Now, a referee says he told Jordan DIRECTLY the team doctor was performing sex acts in the shower. Jordan's reply? "Yeah, yeah, we know." t.co/ZZfaTxcBuf t.co/KT29reHz3b
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Post by cakewench on Nov 8, 2019 8:46:02 GMT -6
I know we've all said this before, but it needs to be said again:
Fuck Jim Jordan.
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 8, 2019 8:47:47 GMT -6
I have worked in the state prison system for 21 years. I am also a single mom with a single child (9) the ENTIRE reason I cant retire is health care. I pay 100$ a night for reliable overnight care. I would love to leave but the economics don't work. I totally understand parents who cant afford to work, I know lots of families that make that choice, but for me- healthcare is the big barrier to doing what I want. Uncoupling healthcare from employment would be such a game changer for so many people. I hope it becomes a reality soon. This would be huge. The golden handcuffs of healthcare have screwed so many people and allowed companies to take advantage of their employees. I have anecdotes but I don't want to get super heated at 9:45am. But this is one of my hills to die on.
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Post by lemondrop on Nov 8, 2019 8:49:05 GMT -6
I know we've all said this before, but it needs to be said again: Fuck Jim Jordan. Oh yeah, huge obligatory FUCK JIM JORDAN. Scumbag.
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Post by jkjacq on Nov 8, 2019 8:49:29 GMT -6
Our church is starting a program with the local elementary school to provide backpacks of food for the weekend. I was crying when they introduced it last weekend because I felt so sheltered not to even realize it was a problem in our area. They are starting with a goal of 50 kids for the school year, but it was introduced during our community outreach day so Iām hoping we will be able to fund more. Do you have a local food bank? If so, look into partnering with them if you havenāt yet. They were helpful in getting the program off the ground, got better rates on food than we could on our own (so we could feed more kids) and let us use their facilities so we could pack and load. They also helped us determine what foods were good to send- non perishables, include stuff that doesnāt have to be cooked in case there isnāt a parent present or they were without electricity. Calorie dense, high protein foods. And stuff kids will actually eat. If you have a local education foundation they might be good partners as well. Another thing that was helpful is we had levels of giving. $300 feed one child for a year $1500 feed a class for a year (bc not everyone in the class needed this) $10,000 feed a school for a year. Etc. Those numbers arenāt exact, I forget what they were but general idea. People liked to know the impact they were having. Anyways. What you and your church is doing is awesome. It completely shocked me when I learned the level of hunger in that community. If I can be of any help, donāt hesitate to PM me The Idaho Foodbank runs ours, so I second partnering. That has some good stats for our state.
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Post by athn64 on Nov 8, 2019 8:56:44 GMT -6
Good Morning all, I found this this morning. It is an amazing well done article on our current status of White privilege in America today. It's amazing to see how we have made almost no progress in about 30 years. The state of white privilege in 2019I do have some questions about doing better but I have trouble putting into words how to ask the questions I want to ask because I am honestly confused about some expectations which may in itself maybe privilege in itself. But I am always willing to talk and learn. And I am more open and honest to do so than most based on the culture at my job. There is a concept in anti-racism work that is if youāre not uncomfortable, youāre not learning. In order to grow and learn and do better as white people (move from being performative allies to true allies) we have to be willing to risk being uncomfortable, making mistakes, owning up to our biases and lack of knowledge. We also have to admit that it is our job as the benefits of systems built and fueled by white supremacy to dismantle that. The job should not fall to the oppressed. So, if you want to dialogue on this, letās do it. Here or a separate thread. Iām willing and available to share what Iāve learned and the resources I have gathered since Iāve been focusing on anti-racism. Iām still learning and growing every day on this journey. I think a separate thread would be good in case people who aren't in the weekly thread want to participate
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Post by JukEboX on Nov 8, 2019 9:49:58 GMT -6
Good Morning all, I found this this morning. It is an amazing well done article on our current status of White privilege in America today. It's amazing to see how we have made almost no progress in about 30 years. The state of white privilege in 2019I do have some questions about doing better but I have trouble putting into words how to ask the questions I want to ask because I am honestly confused about some expectations which may in itself maybe privilege in itself. But I am always willing to talk and learn. And I am more open and honest to do so than most based on the culture at my job. There is a concept in anti-racism work that is if youāre not uncomfortable, youāre not learning. In order to grow and learn and do better as white people (move from being performative allies to true allies) we have to be willing to risk being uncomfortable, making mistakes, owning up to our biases and lack of knowledge. We also have to admit that it is our job as the benefits of systems built and fueled by white supremacy to dismantle that. The job should not fall to the oppressed. So, if you want to dialogue on this, letās do it. Here or a separate thread. Iām willing and available to share what Iāve learned and the resources I have gathered since Iāve been focusing on anti-racism. Iām still learning and growing every day on this journey. Thank you! Made a thread.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Nov 8, 2019 11:08:53 GMT -6
Jeeeeeeessssssis Rep. Jim Jordan has denied knowing anything about what Strauss did to the wrestlers he helped coach from 86 to 94. Now, a referee says he told Jordan DIRECTLY the team doctor was performing sex acts in the shower. Jordan's reply? "Yeah, yeah, we know." t.co/ZZfaTxcBuf t.co/KT29reHz3bGET. HIM. Fuck this is so disgusting.
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Post by CurlieWhirlie on Nov 8, 2019 11:09:27 GMT -6
Speaking of sexual misconduct coverups by powerful white men: I finished Catch and Kill last week. SO GOOD. Who wants to discuss?
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Post by dc2london on Nov 8, 2019 11:32:31 GMT -6
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Post by flippinchica on Nov 8, 2019 12:05:27 GMT -6
Speaking of sexual misconduct coverups by powerful white men: I finished Catch and Kill last week. SO GOOD. Who wants to discuss? I listened to the fresh air interview and I really want to read the book. So interesting
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Post by sctiger on Nov 8, 2019 12:07:52 GMT -6
I read that Trump baby is going to make an appearance at the Alabama-LSU game! Alabama students were reportedly told to not cause any disruptions while Trump is there. I really hope he gets booed, especially because the whole reason he is going to the game is because he thinks it will stroke his ego.
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Nov 8, 2019 13:29:13 GMT -6
I just heard a R ad on country radio while back here and I just had to shake my head. It was really just all of the Fox News talking points including āand this Ukraine stuff is just a bunch of nothingā. š³
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Post by dc2london on Nov 8, 2019 13:48:11 GMT -6
I just heard a R ad on country radio while back here and I just had to shake my head. It was really just all of the Fox News talking points including āand this Ukraine stuff is just a bunch of nothingā. š³ My mother said they are running ads against Gary Peters that basically just show pics of the squad. That would be like running an ad against Brian Schatz by showing pictures of Elise Stefanik. Makes zero sense.
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