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Post by Dramaphile on May 8, 2019 13:13:16 GMT -6
Yeah. They declined the title. I'd like to see that in an official statement. Not just an assumption based off of it not being listed on their Instagram announcement. From what I can find about Harry's titles, they were written to be passed to his male children. Not to revert to the Crown. So he can't decline something that he already has.  But wouldn't that mean Archie gets the title when Harry dies? Or would they both be Earl/Duke/Baron? I don't know how succession works with lower titles... |
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Post by mb3 on May 8, 2019 13:14:19 GMT -6
I know you guys really want him to have a title but right now he doesn’t. But he’s Master Archie. And that’s frickin adorable. |
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:15:05 GMT -6
I'd like to see that in an official statement. Not just an assumption based off of it not being listed on their Instagram announcement. From what I can find about Harry's titles, they were written to be passed to his male children. Not to revert to the Crown. So he can't decline something that he already has. But wouldn't that mean Archie gets the title when Harry dies? Or would they both be Earl/Duke/Baron? I don't know how succession works with lower titles... Generally, the heir apparent is able to use the current title holder's lesser title until their inherit the main title. Unless said person only has one title, in which case the heir is just Lord X. So Archie should technically be styled Earl of Dumbarton, unless the Queen issues new Letters Patent. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:17:43 GMT -6
But wouldn't that mean Archie gets the title when Harry dies? Or would they both be Earl/Duke/Baron? I don't know how succession works with lower titles... Generally, the heir apparent is able to use the current title holder's lesser title until their inherit the main title. Unless said person only has one title, in which case the heir is just Lord X. So Archie should technically be styled Earl of Dumbarton, unless the Queen issues new Letters Patent. He can be style Earl but they have declined it. |
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Post by Sweetjane on May 8, 2019 13:17:55 GMT -6
Apparently it’s the name his classmates call him. I feel like I remember hearing that's how George introduced himself. Like he was calling himself that more so than others and everyone went kinda "Huh, okaaaay George". |
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:18:28 GMT -6
Generally, the heir apparent is able to use the current title holder's lesser title until their inherit the main title. Unless said person only has one title, in which case the heir is just Lord X. So Archie should technically be styled Earl of Dumbarton, unless the Queen issues new Letters Patent. He can be style Earl but they have declined it. So he'll just be Master Archie until her inherits the titles? |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:18:37 GMT -6
See how the titles are clearly spelled out here with the name announcement?   |
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:19:31 GMT -6
See how the titles are clearly spelled out here with the name announcement? Do we have something like this for Archie? I thought we just had the Instagram post. |
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Post by emma on May 8, 2019 13:22:07 GMT -6
I know you guys really want him to have a title but right now he doesn’t. But he’s Master Archie. And that’s frickin adorable. But all little boys are Master |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:24:56 GMT -6
The BRF twitter would have called him by title. They never skip a title.  On the official BRF website he is listed as Master Archie no title.  Again his official page  Contrasted with a kid who has a title.  |
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Post by Nymeria on May 8, 2019 13:27:26 GMT -6
But he’s Master Archie. And that’s frickin adorable. But all little boys are Master My mom addresses cards to my sons as Master DS1 and Master DS2 all the time. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:27:57 GMT -6
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:28:46 GMT -6
The BRF twitter would have called him by title. They never skip a title. On the official BRF website he is listed as Master Archie no title. Again his official page Contrasted with a kid who has a title. I was just looking at this too. I wish they had made an official announcement that he will be known as Master Archie, to cut down on the confusion. |
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Post by jaidit on May 8, 2019 13:29:50 GMT -6
Sooo I know this is not everyone’s taste BUT do we think Meghan will get a new piece of jewelry as a gift from Harry?
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Post by angelashly on May 8, 2019 13:31:03 GMT -6
Sooo I know this is not everyone’s taste BUT do we think Meghan will get a new piece of jewelry as a gift from Harry?  |
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Post by angelashly on May 8, 2019 13:31:28 GMT -6
jaidit, honestly I am surprised she wasn't wearing something new already. He seems like the type to get a push present
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:31:50 GMT -6
The BRF twitter would have called him by title. They never skip a title. On the official BRF website he is listed as Master Archie no title. Again his official page Contrasted with a kid who has a title. I was just looking at this too. I wish they had made an official announcement that he will be known as Master Archie, to cut down on the confusion. I haven’t seen much confusion on twitter to be honest. |
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Post by angelashly on May 8, 2019 13:32:31 GMT -6
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Post by jaidit on May 8, 2019 13:33:09 GMT -6
jaidit, honestly I am surprised she wasn't wearing something new already. He seems like the type to get a push present She had on a necklace with small blue stones from Jennifer Meyer but I would think he’d give her something of Diana’s or something British made. |
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:34:40 GMT -6
I was just looking at this too. I wish they had made an official announcement that he will be known as Master Archie, to cut down on the confusion. I haven’t seen much confusion on twitter to be honest. I saw some in comments on Instagram, and in some articles I read shortly after the name was announced. I hope you know I wasn't trying to be argumentative. No hard feelings? |
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Post by betches on May 8, 2019 13:35:23 GMT -6
Sooo I know this is not everyone’s taste BUT do we think Meghan will get a new piece of jewelry as a gift from Harry? 100%, based purely on how he gushed over how well she did in the interview Monday |
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Post by betches on May 8, 2019 13:37:19 GMT -6
I’m just glad she wasn’t wearing that Mommy necklace today
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:37:26 GMT -6
I found this but couldn’t get the original source.  |
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Post by Sweetjane on May 8, 2019 13:38:26 GMT -6
Can they do that do? Most titles are designed to be inherited. Unless they are written differently, they are passed to the first male child. Zara is different because her father declined any titles, so his children could not have titles (and as the children of the Queen's daughter, they were not entitled to HRH). Do we have any reason to believe that Harry's titles were written to be life titles and not hereditary titles? Yeah. They declined the title. Eta: it doesn’t matter about hereditary titles because as far as we’ve been told the titles have been declined. He has no title because they don’t want him to have one. He could have one some day later if they choose to use it. I'd pass on Dumbarton too. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:38:28 GMT -6
I haven’t seen much confusion on twitter to be honest. I saw some in comments on Instagram, and in some articles I read shortly after the name was announced. I hope you know I wasn't trying to be argumentative. No hard feelings? No it’s ok! It made me really do that research 😂 |
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:39:42 GMT -6
I saw some in comments on Instagram, and in some articles I read shortly after the name was announced. I hope you know I wasn't trying to be argumentative. No hard feelings? No it’s ok! It made me really do that research 😂 Same here. I was googling Buckingham Palace announcements, scouring their website, reading all sorts of London Gazette records. Lol. We are such nerds. I love us. |
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Post by ArielMermaid on May 8, 2019 13:40:35 GMT -6
My god here it is.
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Post by RajahMD on May 8, 2019 13:41:02 GMT -6
jaidit , honestly I am surprised she wasn't wearing something new already. He seems like the type to get a push present Push tiara! Yaassssss! "Now that you have birthed my child, Her Majesty says you can pick another tiara to add to your rotation". |
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Post by angelashly on May 8, 2019 13:41:03 GMT -6
jaidit , honestly I am surprised she wasn't wearing something new already. He seems like the type to get a push present Push tiara! The EMERALD ONE! |
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Post by angelashly on May 8, 2019 13:41:56 GMT -6
jaidit , honestly I am surprised she wasn't wearing something new already. He seems like the type to get a push present She had on a necklace with small blue stones from Jennifer Meyer but I would think he’d give her something of Diana’s or something British made. Yeah I bet we will see something once she finishes her maternity leave |
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