McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Mar 19, 2019 11:27:34 GMT -6
"my heart breaks for them..."
I am over here sincerely like wow and blinking guy.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 19, 2019 11:28:13 GMT -6
Considering the amount of parents who call me daily that I have to remind them that their preshus are over the age of 18 and I can't in fact talk to them about anything despite them paying the bill. I would say no. I also work with honors students so they should in fact know these things I have parents call me for their adult children in my work. No, I can't talk to you!! I say it so many times a day it amazes me. My kid is 8 and if she wants something from her grandparents, aunts, hell even her teacher she asks them directly
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McBenny
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Post by McBenny on Mar 19, 2019 11:29:50 GMT -6
Girl yes.
"They" are so quick to call POC men and women right at 18, 17 if they can push it when it is negative.
But these "poor" children, wah wah wah. No, miss me with that shit. The fragility paint brush is out and ready to paint the sympathy onto to them.
So one of these kids is embarrassed oh woe is me. Wow.
I do agree with you on the POC being seen as an adult right away. I have had to remind SO that while he feels his nephew was grown at 18 no he isn't. But I am also confused by the amount of people in this very thread (not you McBenny ) that are all those kids know better they are 18/19 years old, but in other threads will say that they are kids who don't have full brain development until 25 of whatever so..... I see your point but at the same time I don't blame your SO. Society won't see his nephew as a kid. He is a grown ass man. He needs to know how to handle that.
I just had to talk to my DS about something yesterday and I had to tell him, "especially because you are black." It's a shame you have to go there but for them to have the skills and knowledge to navigate themselves in this world they need to know it.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 19, 2019 11:32:21 GMT -6
I do agree with you on the POC being seen as an adult right away. I have had to remind SO that while he feels his nephew was grown at 18 no he isn't. But I am also confused by the amount of people in this very thread (not you McBenny ) that are all those kids know better they are 18/19 years old, but in other threads will say that they are kids who don't have full brain development until 25 of whatever so..... I see your point but at the same time I don't blame your SO. Society won't see his nephew as a kid. He is a grown ass man. He needs to know how to handle that.
I just had to talk to my DS about something yesterday and I had to tell him, "especially because you are black." It's a shame you have to go there but for them to have the skills and knowledge to navigate themselves in this world they need to know it.
Oh for sure and that is why when push came to shove and we had to talk to his sister and mom about them "babying" him I backed him 100%. It was mostly about a personal thing between him and his nephew that I tried to remind him he was only 18, but you are 1000% right and I hope that his nephew learned from the situation
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bazi
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Post by bazi on Mar 19, 2019 11:32:36 GMT -6
Considering the amount of parents who call me daily that I have to remind them that their preshus are over the age of 18 and I can't in fact talk to them about anything despite them paying the bill. I would say no. I also work with honors students so they should in fact know these things I have parents call me for their adult children in my work. No, I can't talk to you!! My coworker has a scheduled, quarterly check in with his son’s boss. His son is a 27 year old man.
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Post by angelashly on Mar 19, 2019 11:33:48 GMT -6
I have parents call me for their adult children in my work. No, I can't talk to you!! My coworker has a scheduled, quarterly check in with his son’s boss. His son is a 27 year old man. My mom recently called the pediatrician for my nephew because my sister was frustrated she wasn't getting an answer. My sister is 27 with a 1 year old. Although the pediatrician did answer my mom and said that he didn't talk to my sister because he felt that she was just FTM worrying so that is a whole other issue
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Post by GhoatMonket on Mar 19, 2019 11:36:01 GMT -6
I have parents call me for their adult children in my work. No, I can't talk to you!! My coworker has a scheduled, quarterly check in with his son’s boss. His son is a 27 year old man. My coworker is looking for a roommate for her 30 something daughter to get her to move out of the house. She still has access to her married 30 something son's bank accounts and pays bills for him. My mom would laugh if I asked her to do that unless I was paying her to do that.
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Mar 19, 2019 11:50:49 GMT -6
I asked my 18 year old college student last night what he thought of this scandal. He said honestly some of the stuff they did he didnt even think was illegal. Unethical to use money to get what you want, but not seen as illegal. Its all just a way to game the system. So thats why I would possibly give some measure of sympathy to the youngest of these kids. I mean grown adults didnt see it as illegal, so the kids would do what the adults told them to. So you raised a child that doesn't grasp that bribery is illegal? naw, more like from his quick look, he's thinking, rich people have been buying their kids ways into colleges for so long, it must be legal to do that. Based on the number of adults who think bribery and lying isn't a big deal (half of trumps government it seems) he isn't that far off.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Mar 19, 2019 11:52:16 GMT -6
So you raised a child that doesn't grasp that bribery is illegal? naw, more like from his quick look, he's thinking, rich people have been buying their kids ways into colleges for so long, it must be legal to do that. Based on the number of adults who think bribery and lying isn't a big deal (half of trumps government it seems) he isn't that far off. I wouldn't brag about my child only being as smart as Trump.
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AmyG
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Post by AmyG on Mar 19, 2019 11:59:19 GMT -6
naw, more like from his quick look, he's thinking, rich people have been buying their kids ways into colleges for so long, it must be legal to do that. Based on the number of adults who think bribery and lying isn't a big deal (half of trumps government it seems) he isn't that far off. I wouldn't brag about my child only being as smart as Trump. fuck off on insulting my son It was an example that he sees so many people who do not look at this kind of bribery as illegal, just unethical maybe. Like politicians and rich people in our country. Regardless of who it hurts, including their own children.
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Post by justbecause on Mar 19, 2019 12:06:18 GMT -6
I’m well aware that parents are super helicopters lately. It’s ridiculous and how my aunt ended up with my lazy cousin William failing out of several colleges, still living at home at nearly 40, and having my aunt microwave his food for him.
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Post by sheilathetank on Mar 19, 2019 12:20:19 GMT -6
My 28 year old coworker asked me how to go about finding a primary care doctor because I'm "a mom and know these things". No i'm a grown ass woman who learned how to do things for herself.
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soup
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Post by soup on Mar 19, 2019 12:31:23 GMT -6
I'll just come in and say ditto to most things that McBenny and @karenwalker have stated. I don't feel bad at all about my lack of sympathy for everyone involved in the scheme, including the students. I still find it incredibly difficult to believe that any student was unaware of the dishonesty surrounding their admission, whether it was concocting fake athletic profiles or falsifying standardized test scores. Honestly, I only have so many fucks to give, so my empathy and sympathy are indeed finite. I'm not wasting it on these fools.
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beatch
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Post by beatch on Mar 19, 2019 12:40:27 GMT -6
I asked my 18 year old college student last night what he thought of this scandal. He said honestly some of the stuff they did he didnt even think was illegal. Unethical to use money to get what you want, but not seen as illegal. Its all just a way to game the system. So thats why I would possibly give some measure of sympathy to the youngest of these kids. I mean grown adults didnt see it as illegal, so the kids would do what the adults told them to. Falsifying applications and impersonating other people isn't illegal? ETA: I see other people have covered this.
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beatch
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Post by beatch on Mar 19, 2019 12:43:34 GMT -6
I have parents call me for their adult children in my work. No, I can't talk to you!! My coworker has a scheduled, quarterly check in with his son’s boss. His son is a 27 year old man.
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Dr. Cox
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Post by Dr. Cox on Mar 19, 2019 12:46:14 GMT -6
naw, more like from his quick look, he's thinking, rich people have been buying their kids ways into colleges for so long, it must be legal to do that. Based on the number of adults who think bribery and lying isn't a big deal (half of trumps government it seems) he isn't that far off. I wouldn't brag about my child only being as smart as Trump. Wow. That’s a fucked up thing to say about someone’s kid.
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pearbear
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Post by pearbear on Mar 19, 2019 12:47:43 GMT -6
I feel like there are a lot of gross things being said on both sides of the argument in here. I can't exactly explain it, but the entire thing is making me feel really icky.
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Post by SayitaintSnow on Mar 19, 2019 12:52:05 GMT -6
So you raised a child that doesn't grasp that bribery is illegal? naw, more like from his quick look, he's thinking, rich people have been buying their kids ways into colleges for so long, it must be legal to do that. Based on the number of adults who think bribery and lying isn't a big deal (half of trumps government it seems) he isn't that far off. I hear what he's saying. Yes it's technically illegal, but it's also standard practice for wealth to be used to access privileges in ways that people without money can't, and wealthy people are often not held accountable for their actions when these ways break the law.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Mar 19, 2019 12:55:41 GMT -6
I wouldn't brag about my child only being as smart as Trump. Wow. That’s a fucked up thing to say about someone’s kid. So you think that is a reasonable level to strive to for an 18 year old? To not know that bribery is illegal?
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Cher
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Post by Cher on Mar 19, 2019 12:56:42 GMT -6
Can I burn this thread down? Thanks.
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Dr. Cox
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Post by Dr. Cox on Mar 19, 2019 12:57:45 GMT -6
Wow. That’s a fucked up thing to say about someone’s kid. So you think that is a reasonable level to strive to for an 18 year old? To not know that bribery is illegal? That is not what she said, but by all means, continue digging in on this. 👍
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Dr. Cox
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Post by Dr. Cox on Mar 19, 2019 12:58:42 GMT -6
Can I burn this thread down? Thanks. Please
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Post by ladybrienne on Mar 19, 2019 13:02:06 GMT -6
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Post by SweetPotato on Mar 19, 2019 13:16:10 GMT -6
Wow. That’s a fucked up thing to say about someone’s kid. So you think that is a reasonable level to strive to for an 18 year old? To not know that bribery is illegal? I feel like even Trump would have been able to understand her point, so...
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Post by GhoatMonket on Mar 19, 2019 13:19:29 GMT -6
So you think that is a reasonable level to strive to for an 18 year old? To not know that bribery is illegal? I feel like even Trump would have been able to understand her point, so... Are you going to address the other people that stated the same thing I did? Of course not.
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Post by SweetPotato on Mar 19, 2019 13:22:07 GMT -6
I feel like even Trump would have been able to understand her point, so... Are you going to address the other people that stated the same thing I did? Of course not. I didn’t see anyone else directly insult her kid. Much less twice If that happened then they are also out of line.
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Post by hardlyluck on Mar 19, 2019 13:23:22 GMT -6
I wouldn't brag about my child only being as smart as Trump. fuck off on insulting my son It was an example that he sees so many people who do not look at this kind of bribery as illegal, just unethical maybe. Like politicians and rich people in our country. Regardless of who it hurts, including their own children. I thought the first comment was out of line and the second was so far over the line I was 😳. You handled that better than I would have by miles.
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thatgolfb
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Post by thatgolfb on Mar 19, 2019 13:37:25 GMT -6
"my heart breaks for them..." I am over here sincerely like wow and blinking guy. I must have missed where someone said this...
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thatgolfb
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Post by thatgolfb on Mar 19, 2019 13:40:06 GMT -6
I have parents call me for their adult children in my work. No, I can't talk to you!! My coworker has a scheduled, quarterly check in with his son’s boss. His son is a 27 year old man. My gosh. Why does the boss even entertain that, though?
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kmkd
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Post by kmkd on Mar 19, 2019 13:40:34 GMT -6
"my heart breaks for them..." I am over here sincerely like wow and blinking guy. I must have missed where someone said this... I said “my heart is not broken” so I’m not sure if it was me and it’s a mistake or I also missed it.
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