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Post by catspajamas on Feb 4, 2020 19:27:51 GMT -6
Elizabeth Warren
Tonight, Donald Trump will make a speech about the state of the union.
But I have a message for every American: Our union is stronger than Donald Trump. And in less than a year, our union will be stronger than ever when that one man is replaced by one very persistent woman.
I love her
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Post by roloma on Feb 4, 2020 19:42:19 GMT -6
Elizabeth Warren
Tonight, Donald Trump will make a speech about the state of the union.
But I have a message for every American: Our union is stronger than Donald Trump. And in less than a year, our union will be stronger than ever when that one man is replaced by one very persistent woman.
Her speech last night was really so good. I’m still seething that my local station cut away to show Biden’s whole speech and then replayed her 2nd half.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 5, 2020 8:33:32 GMT -6
Saw my first Bernie ad today. So far it’s only been Steyer or Bloomberg here. And we don’t normally get a lot of primary ads here because historically we’ve been a June primary state. Super Tuesday is new to me!!
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Post by beatch on Feb 5, 2020 15:42:42 GMT -6
I am so disgusted by people who think like this. No better than Trump voters, and white privilege at its finest.
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Post by starbuck on Feb 5, 2020 15:46:25 GMT -6
I am so disgusted by people who think like this. No better than Trump voters, and white privilege at its finest. This feels very much like a threat. Like, make Bernie The One else me and all my thousands of followers will sit this one out. Dick.
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Post by beatch on Feb 5, 2020 15:48:30 GMT -6
I am so disgusted by people who think like this. No better than Trump voters, and white privilege at its finest. This feels very much like a threat. Like, make Bernie The One else me and all my thousands of followers will sit this one out. Dick. It is, and he's not the only one I've seen making it. Fuck the Bernie bros.
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Post by stringy on Feb 6, 2020 8:05:44 GMT -6
I know that there isn't a lot of Pete love around here, and he's not my first choice either....but can we stop and reflect for a second that Iowa just had a great turnout for a openly gay man? That point is not lost on me or the LGBT community. It is so complicated because he obviously has privilege by being a white male - and being gay is invisible. Until it isn't.
There's a video circulating of a woman who ended up caucusing for him and only after that found out he's gay and wanted to change her vote. So there's that.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 6, 2020 8:10:51 GMT -6
I know that there isn't a lot of Pete love around here, and he's not my first choice either....but can we stop and reflect for a second that Iowa just had a great turnout for a openly gay man? That point is not lost on me or the LGBT community. It is so complicated because he obviously has privilege by being a white male - and being gay is invisible. Until it isn't. There's a video circulating of a woman who ended up caucusing for him and only after that found out he's gay and wanted to change her vote. So there's that. Thank you for bringing this up. I know I HATE on Pete as a candidate but this is worth reflecting on. I don’t hate Pete the person and it does take a lot of courage to unapologetically run as a gay man in 2020. I wish it didn’t but it does. What he is pulling off as a person, candidate and campaign is historic and important. Regardless of what happens he is a roll model for LGBTQ+ people and is breaking barriers.
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Post by stringy on Feb 6, 2020 8:22:23 GMT -6
I know that there isn't a lot of Pete love around here, and he's not my first choice either....but can we stop and reflect for a second that Iowa just had a great turnout for a openly gay man? That point is not lost on me or the LGBT community. It is so complicated because he obviously has privilege by being a white male - and being gay is invisible. Until it isn't. There's a video circulating of a woman who ended up caucusing for him and only after that found out he's gay and wanted to change her vote. So there's that. Thank you for bringing this up. I know I HATE on Pete as a candidate but this is worth reflecting on. I don’t hate Pete the person and it does take a lot of courage to unapologetically run as a gay man in 2020. I wish it didn’t but it does. What he is pulling off as a person, candidate and campaign is historic and important. Regardless of what happens he is a roll model for LGBTQ+ people and is breaking barriers. But also, if this woman is involved enough to caucus - but doesn't have this well known piece of information - its also scary because if he continues to do well - or gets the nom - you know the right is going to start overtly using scare tactics for people and talking about "family values". And once that starts I have zero hope that he'd ever win the general. Because this woman isn't in the minority.
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Post by jaygee on Feb 6, 2020 8:28:04 GMT -6
Thank you for bringing this up. I know I HATE on Pete as a candidate but this is worth reflecting on. I don’t hate Pete the person and it does take a lot of courage to unapologetically run as a gay man in 2020. I wish it didn’t but it does. What he is pulling off as a person, candidate and campaign is historic and important. Regardless of what happens he is a roll model for LGBTQ+ people and is breaking barriers. But also, if this woman is involved enough to caucus - but doesn't have this well known piece of information - its also scary because if he continues to do well - or gets the nom - you know the right is going to start overtly using scare tactics for people and talking about "family values". And once that starts I have zero hope that he'd ever win the general. Because this woman isn't in the minority.
I know. It’s scary. I don’t want to see his sexuality weaponized against him but you’re right that the better he does, the more likely that is to happen. When I first saw that video shared it was to show how well the campaign worker did trying to educate. I see how she handled it as a positive. But there is no denying that there is a large population that acts and feels like the bigot who wanted to change her vote. There is still so far to go.
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Post by roloma on Feb 6, 2020 8:57:40 GMT -6
Here's what I can say (yay...a place to actually say something good about Iowa!) as a positive for Iowa:
We, overwhelmingly, supported the first Black president, we supported the first female nominee, we have given great support to an openly gay candidate, and we have 2 progressives in the top three this year.
So, while the state remains a hot pile of garbage, mostly, at least our democrats do pretty well.
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Post by claudia on Feb 10, 2020 15:26:28 GMT -6
I know that there isn't a lot of Pete love around here, and he's not my first choice either....but can we stop and reflect for a second that Iowa just had a great turnout for a openly gay man? That point is not lost on me or the LGBT community. It is so complicated because he obviously has privilege by being a white male - and being gay is invisible. Until it isn't. There's a video circulating of a woman who ended up caucusing for him and only after that found out he's gay and wanted to change her vote. So there's that. Thank you for bringing this up. I know I HATE on Pete as a candidate but this is worth reflecting on. I don’t hate Pete the person and it does take a lot of courage to unapologetically run as a gay man in 2020. I wish it didn’t but it does. What he is pulling off as a person, candidate and campaign is historic and important. Regardless of what happens he is a roll model for LGBTQ+ people and is breaking barriers. His husband tweeted a picture of them with the caption "It gets better" the night of the caucus and it made me tear up. And I'm not a Pete fan.
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Post by dc2london on Feb 10, 2020 16:32:50 GMT -6
So help me if this becomes another edition of "the DNC has rigged the process", I'm going to lose my mind. Oh, you might as well start because it already is. My H was telling me yesterday that the only reason the DNC changed the threshold that allowed Bloomberg in to the debate is because they were scared of how Bernie is rising in the polls. I was very, uh huh...okay. Bernard, the perpetual victim of the system. Fucking hell. eta: starbuck, the Bernie Bros are using it en masse already. Please refer to my husband. This goes right back to what I was saying a couple of weeks ago: Trump and Bernie Bernie capitalize on a sense of grievance. "Your life sucks, and I'll tell ya whose fault it is! And then I'll make them pay!"
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Post by dc2london on Feb 10, 2020 16:33:44 GMT -6
Although I should credit Bernie with actually having ways he wants to improve things and not just shout about people on Twitter and permanently soak the drapery with Big Mac stench
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Post by dc2london on Feb 10, 2020 18:51:53 GMT -6
Thank you so much for sharing this
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Post by byjove on Feb 11, 2020 8:41:26 GMT -6
Can we just have a moment that for out of a possible 100 points, our current president earned 4.75. The next lowest was Yang with 51.25 points. The worst of the D candidates may be not great, but they are still more than 10x better than the current racist in chief.
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