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Post by ladybrienne on Dec 3, 2019 12:54:17 GMT -6
I had read several weeks ago that Harris was going to have to make a decision soon, given the timing of the California primary and her polling there. The scenario was that if she did ran and did badly in her home state, that opened her Senate seat up for a lot of challengers, and since she hasn't been doing well in polls or fundraising in other states, even where she was concentrating efforts, withdrawal seemed inevitable. I read this too (I think on politico) which I get but I am still shocked she dropped out now. But I guess if they were that low on cash there’s just not much that can be done. |
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Post by athn64 on Dec 3, 2019 12:55:20 GMT -6
This primary is a terrible feeling because I feel like we are fucking it up and watching it in a kind of slow mo to the election, but I don’t know what the answer is. Sorry, not trying to catastrophize, but so much is at stake and I have lost hope. I genuinely have no idea who her supporters will turn to. I mean we aren't a monolith, but who even will get a large share of her voters? I have no idea who is my number 2. I mean I like a lot of Warren's plans but she's very out of touch with voters of color to be downright harmful. I just don't know. H is still on the Pete train but no way in hell is he getting my vote in the primary |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 12:57:03 GMT -6
I mean let’s be clear - the only person talking about primarying Harris for her Senate seat is Tom Steyer and his stinky ass money. And that would go over about as well as Meg Whitman running for Governor. Harris is insanely popular as a Senator in CA. She beat another democrat for the position by 3 million votes. That’s not the issue here. Maybe people in CA weren’t supporting her for POTUS but they definitely support her for Senate.
I blame the media, Steyer, and Bloomberg. And racist, misogynist democrats.
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 12:58:01 GMT -6
I think Hillary is going to run. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 12:58:27 GMT -6
I might have some anger.
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Post by lemondrop on Dec 3, 2019 12:58:38 GMT -6
My heart </3 I hope she truly knows what a difference she's made in so many lives. She might not be president in 2020, but she has more honesty, integrity, and humility in one single cell than 45 has in his entire body. This is a shame. |
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Post by athn64 on Dec 3, 2019 12:59:10 GMT -6
I think Hillary is going to run. She really needs to not. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 12:59:39 GMT -6
I think Hillary is going to run. She really needs to not. I know. But I think she will. |
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Post by claudia on Dec 3, 2019 12:59:44 GMT -6
This primary is a terrible feeling because I feel like we are fucking it up and watching it in a kind of slow mo to the election, but I don’t know what the answer is. Sorry, not trying to catastrophize, but so much is at stake and I have lost hope. I genuinely have no idea who her supporters will turn to. I mean we aren't a monolith, but who even will get a large share of her voters? Those I know who have been most vocal in supporting her seem to also be fans of either Warren, Castro, or both. I'm leaning toward Castro personally. |
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 3, 2019 12:59:52 GMT -6
Everyone else I like polls even lower than Harris. 😭 Same! Well I had: 1.)Harris & Castro tied 10.)the rest 1904573567.) Tulsi I’m really sad. |
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Post by ladybrienne on Dec 3, 2019 13:00:10 GMT -6
I think Hillary is going to run. Really? I honestly do not think she will. |
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Post by greykitty on Dec 3, 2019 13:00:16 GMT -6
Is this a closed board open to people of only one mindset? I thought it was a discussion board on politics. I'd seen speculation on this board on why Harris dropped out and added another observation. Why is that objectionable? |
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Dec 3, 2019 13:01:46 GMT -6
I’m just so sad. I hope VP or AG are in Kamala’s future This! I’m shocked she is dropping out so early. Before Iowa. But I think she is best served as AG this term. I think it’s a good stepping stone to another bid in the future. |
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Post by richard on Dec 3, 2019 13:03:27 GMT -6
Legit surprised.
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Post by enchanted on Dec 3, 2019 13:03:51 GMT -6
I genuinely have no idea who her supporters will turn to. I mean we aren't a monolith, but who even will get a large share of her voters? I have no idea who is my number 2. I mean I like a lot of Warren's plans but she's very out of touch with voters of color to be downright harmful. I just don't know. H is still on the Pete train but no way in hell is he getting my vote in the primary Yes to what you said about Warren. |
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Post by Ls2012 on Dec 3, 2019 13:04:06 GMT -6
Castro, Booker, and Warren are the only ones I care about now and Liz is getting very close to losing my support.
This sucks this sucks this sucks
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Post by jkjacq on Dec 3, 2019 13:05:00 GMT -6
I mean let’s be clear - the only person talking about primarying Harris for her Senate seat is Tom Steyer and his stinky ass money. And that would go over about as well as Meg Whitman running for Governor. Harris is insanely popular as a Senator in CA. She beat another democrat for the position by 3 million votes. That’s not the issue here. Maybe people in CA weren’t supporting her for POTUS but they definitely support her for Senate. I blame the media, Steyer, and Bloomberg. And racist, misogynist democrats. Amy Siskind (so grain of salt) stated Bloomberg news leaked this resignation right before Mike announced.
I'll sit on your anger at media, steyer & Bloomberg bench
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 13:05:08 GMT -6
I’m too upset to talk about candidates not named Castro, Booker, or maybe Biden right now. I’ll say things I might regret. 🤐
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Post by richard on Dec 3, 2019 13:05:26 GMT -6
I think Hillary is going to run. Really? I honestly do not think she will. Very same. |
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Post by ldubhawksfan on Dec 3, 2019 13:05:29 GMT -6
Oh my god you guys. I was blissfully unaware. My coworker just texted me. She figured I already knew. I’m devastated. I truly did not see this coming. I thought she would have stayed in through early state voting. The money troubles must have been bad. A major ad drop in Iowa was just announced today. 😭 I don’t get the abruptness. Is something big going to drop? I mean yesterday someone posted about a fundraiser and like you said the IA ad. WTF with the timing?? |
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Post by dc2london on Dec 3, 2019 13:05:46 GMT -6
Is this a closed board open to people of only one mindset? I thought it was a discussion board on politics. I'd seen speculation on this board on why Harris dropped out and added another observation. Why is that objectionable? I apparently just can not read you bc your post felt very told-ya-so in a thread where people are literally crying over something that's personal to them. We know you don't like Kamala. Of course you can speak freely. But jumping in to a thread at the moment people have said they are actually crying and spewing some of the same nasty media coverage that helped bring us here is hurtful. To me. |
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Post by elle on Dec 3, 2019 13:06:48 GMT -6
I was just coming in here to share this. I wasn't crying...until I saw this tweet. |
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Post by Ls2012 on Dec 3, 2019 13:06:49 GMT -6
Is this a closed board open to people of only one mindset? I thought it was a discussion board on politics. I'd seen speculation on this board on why Harris dropped out and added another observation. Why is that objectionable? I think it's more that that particular observation feels like an unnecessary punch in a fairly low moment for several of us. Maybe give people some time to mourn, if you will, before jumping in with technicalities. |
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 3, 2019 13:06:51 GMT -6
I did not get the indication that greykitty was in any way gloating over Kamala dropping out. We always discuss the whys when this happens. It stings more for those who have supported and campaigned for Harris, but I don’t feel it’s fair to be angry at greykitty. This board (myself included) has been mostly all in on Kamala. Those who aren’t are just coming at this differently. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 13:06:56 GMT -6
I mean let’s be clear - the only person talking about primarying Harris for her Senate seat is Tom Steyer and his stinky ass money. And that would go over about as well as Meg Whitman running for Governor. Harris is insanely popular as a Senator in CA. She beat another democrat for the position by 3 million votes. That’s not the issue here. Maybe people in CA weren’t supporting her for POTUS but they definitely support her for Senate. I blame the media, Steyer, and Bloomberg. And racist, misogynist democrats. Amy Siskind (so grain of salt) stated Bloomberg news leaked this resignation right before Mike announced.
I'll sit on your anger at media, steyer & Bloomberg bench
I have read from a number of sources (non extremely 100%) that Bloomberg’s campaign was targeting hers right from the jump. Which is you know, odd, since his campaign was supposed to be all about Warren and her wealth tax. 🤔 |
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Post by jenna on Dec 3, 2019 13:07:21 GMT -6
I’m going to go donate a few bucks to Castro. I don’t know if that’s like throwing money away at this point in the game, but I want to hear more of his voice.
I know we will likely see so much more from Kamala, but dammit we need her now. 😖 I hate feeling like the bad guys won...the media, the racists, the misogynists, the fucking Russian bots. Ugh.
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Post by Dr. Cox on Dec 3, 2019 13:08:09 GMT -6
Is this a closed board open to people of only one mindset? I thought it was a discussion board on politics. I'd seen speculation on this board on why Harris dropped out and added another observation. Why is that objectionable? I think it's more that that particular observation feels like an unnecessary punch in a fairly low moment for several of us. Maybe give people some time to mourn, if you will, before jumping in with technicalities. I agree with this as well. |
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Post by jaygee on Dec 3, 2019 13:08:47 GMT -6
Oh my god you guys. I was blissfully unaware. My coworker just texted me. She figured I already knew. I’m devastated. I truly did not see this coming. I thought she would have stayed in through early state voting. The money troubles must have been bad. A major ad drop in Iowa was just announced today. 😭 I don’t get the abruptness. Is something big going to drop? I mean yesterday someone posted about a fundraiser and like you said the IA ad. WTF with the timing?? This is what I am reeling over. Like I’m kind of nervous. Her email says financial but I’m scared it’s something else. |
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Post by athn64 on Dec 3, 2019 13:08:49 GMT -6
Amy Siskind (so grain of salt) stated Bloomberg news leaked this resignation right before Mike announced.
I'll sit on your anger at media, steyer & Bloomberg bench
I have read from a number of sources (non extremely 100%) that Bloomberg’s campaign was targeting hers right from the jump. Which is you know, odd, since his campaign was supposed to be all about Warren and her wealth tax. 🤔 Blomberg is all about maintaining the status quo for the rich. Nothing he says can make me think any differently. |
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Post by notblanche on Dec 3, 2019 13:09:28 GMT -6
Ok, so how do I get Castro elected? Does he have a catchy fan base name? I’m lost. This is where I am. How TF can we amplify Julian in her stead? |
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