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Post by Tlex on Apr 9, 2018 9:39:35 GMT -6
I'd definitely look it up myself but I'd be so put off when I did. I would 100% expect this at a church hosted movie night, 0% expect it at a community centre one.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:40:51 GMT -6
Agreed that resorting to religious movies as a community endeavor is an odd approach. I am curious as to the make up of the HOA or at least this particular committee. It is... very interesting. This committee. The board is great.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 9, 2018 9:41:18 GMT -6
I'd definitely look it up myself but I'd be so put off when I did. I would 100% expect this at a church hosted movie night, 0% expect it at a community centre one. Yeah I get it. A local church does movies at the park in the summer and it is really nice and even they play the more recent Disney or whatever movie. Last summer we watched Sing and Moana there
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Post by gimmeaQ on Apr 9, 2018 9:41:53 GMT -6
To a point, yes. But if 95% of the community is going to be happy with those types of movies, then I don't see why it would be a problem. Maybe the next movie night they do something non religious. Can you email the board with movie suggestions for next time? But being part of that 5% would feel pretty shitty. ETA: I know there won't be a perfect movie choice to appease everyone. BUT. Not liking a movie is not the same as an exclusionary movie. Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:42:12 GMT -6
I'd definitely look it up myself but I'd be so put off when I did. I would 100% expect this at a church hosted movie night, 0% expect it at a community centre one. Yeah I get it. A local church does movies at the park in the summer and it is really nice and even they play the more recent Disney or whatever movie. Last summer we watched Sing and Moana there I’m also annoyed that it’s a lame movie for the younger kids. Aside from the religious aspect.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 9:42:38 GMT -6
I bet it’s one vocal person who thinks Disney is the devil or some shit.
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Post by sheilathetank on Apr 9, 2018 9:42:45 GMT -6
To a point, yes. But if 95% of the community is going to be happy with those types of movies, then I don't see why it would be a problem. Maybe the next movie night they do something non religious. Can you email the board with movie suggestions for next time? We have zero way of knowing what percentage of our community is evangelical Christian. Everybody pays dues. ok, then yes, this a little odd and it sounds like whoever chose the movies is using it to push an agenda seeing as there are approximately a million other movies they could have chosen.
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Post by thatgolfb on Apr 9, 2018 9:42:51 GMT -6
I would be put off. There are so many family oriented movies they could have chosen that don't have a (blatant, at least) religious theme. I would probably ask why they chose those movies, and we would not attend.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:43:16 GMT -6
I bet it’s one vocal person who thinks Disney is the devil or some shit. I’m for sure the chair is the culprit.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:44:14 GMT -6
But being part of that 5% would feel pretty shitty. ETA: I know there won't be a perfect movie choice to appease everyone. BUT. Not liking a movie is not the same as an exclusionary movie. Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. It’s not even a good movie.
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Post by angelashly on Apr 9, 2018 9:44:29 GMT -6
I bet it’s one vocal person who thinks Disney is the devil or some shit. My MIL must be on the committee. She hates Disney
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Post by sheilathetank on Apr 9, 2018 9:45:01 GMT -6
I bet it’s one vocal person who thinks Disney is the devil or some shit. I was just going to say this. If Boz is the go to animation character in their home, then I bet they think Harry Potter promotes witchcraft and Disney is turning us all into heathens.
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Post by gimmeaQ on Apr 9, 2018 9:45:43 GMT -6
Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. It’s not even a good movie. I know - Mine was more of a general statement
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:46:49 GMT -6
Well I’m going to stage a coup, then.
JK, but I am going to join the committee.
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Post by thatgolfb on Apr 9, 2018 9:48:24 GMT -6
But being part of that 5% would feel pretty shitty. ETA: I know there won't be a perfect movie choice to appease everyone. BUT. Not liking a movie is not the same as an exclusionary movie. Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. I would normally agree with this, but not when the 5% is being excluded due to their religious beliefs (yes, I know they aren't being "excluded" in the traditional sense of the word, but you know what I mean). There are plenty of secular movies that could be played at a community event.
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Post by Rusty Red on Apr 9, 2018 9:48:32 GMT -6
I bet it’s one vocal person who thinks Disney is the devil or some shit. I’m for sure the chair is the culprit.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:51:10 GMT -6
Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. I would normally agree with this, but not when the 5% is being excluded due to their religious beliefs (yes, I know they aren't being "excluded" in the traditional sense of the word, but you know what I mean). There are plenty of secular movies that could be played at a community event. I think it is exactly excluded in the traditional sense of the word.
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Post by thatgolfb on Apr 9, 2018 9:52:33 GMT -6
I would normally agree with this, but not when the 5% is being excluded due to their religious beliefs (yes, I know they aren't being "excluded" in the traditional sense of the word, but you know what I mean). There are plenty of secular movies that could be played at a community event. I think it is exactly excluded in the traditional sense of the word. I meant they aren't being prevented from attending.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 9:52:33 GMT -6
Something like this happened in my old subdivision. I think I have talked about it some, but the neighborhood got colonized by a bunch of members of this local evangelical mega-church. One of the church members joined the board (I had previously been a member.) Prior to that, we had always showed Disney/ family style movies, but the member from the church started pushing back and arguing that we should show PG films because not all families allowed their children to watch PG movies, etc. He blocked different types of music at our block party, and so on.
They never (when I lived there) showed a Christian movie, but having an ever increasing percentage of evangelical Christians changed the neighborhood in ways I never expected.
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Post by fancynewbeesly on Apr 9, 2018 9:53:06 GMT -6
Knowing those movies I definitely would not be attending I would expect those movies at a church function but a community function it would bother me, especially since I was paying association dues.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:54:46 GMT -6
Something like this happened in my old subdivision. I think I have talked about it some, but the neighborhood got colonized by a bunch of members of this local evangelical mega-church. One of the church members joined the board (I had previously been a member.) Prior to that, we had always showed Disney/ family style movies, but the member from the church started pushing back and arguing that we should show PG films because not all families allowed their children to watch PG movies, etc. He blocked different types of music at our block party, and so on. They never (when I lived there) showed a Christian movie, but having an ever increasing percentage of evangelical Christians changed the neighborhood in ways I never expected. I think this is a one woman operation. She owns her own “church,” but all of her sermon videos are just her and her kids at the dining room table.
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Post by piratecat on Apr 9, 2018 9:55:27 GMT -6
But being part of that 5% would feel pretty shitty. ETA: I know there won't be a perfect movie choice to appease everyone. BUT. Not liking a movie is not the same as an exclusionary movie. Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. I feel like it's a little different when you are excluding 1 out of 20 families based on religion though. Besides, do Christians, especially kids, actually enjoy watching Christian movies for general entertainment?
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Post by gimmeaQ on Apr 9, 2018 9:56:46 GMT -6
Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. I would normally agree with this, but not when the 5% is being excluded due to their religious beliefs (yes, I know they aren't being "excluded" in the traditional sense of the word, but you know what I mean). There are plenty of secular movies that could be played at a community event. but in the other direction, if you had 5% of people in your neighborhood who were offended by Disney because of their beliefs, and the HOA showed a Disney movie... I think most people would agree that it makes the most sense to just show the Disney movie?
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Post by Bookshelves on Apr 9, 2018 9:57:41 GMT -6
I think this is a one woman operation. She owns her own “church,” but all of her sermon videos are just her and her kids at the dining room table.
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Post by sheilathetank on Apr 9, 2018 9:57:48 GMT -6
Man... this is going to sound really insensitive and I don't mean it to, but you can't please 100% of people, ever. If you have a 95% success rate then you're doing pretty well. I'm not saying this is the case in the neighborhood bc rsvac doesn't know the make up, but if any movie is going to be well received by 19 out of 20 families in the HOA then they should go for it. I feel like it's a little different when you are excluding 1 out of 20 families based on religion though. Besides, do Christians, especially kids, actually enjoy watching Christian movies for general entertainment? The popularity of Veggie Tales suggests that yes they do.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:57:55 GMT -6
I would normally agree with this, but not when the 5% is being excluded due to their religious beliefs (yes, I know they aren't being "excluded" in the traditional sense of the word, but you know what I mean). There are plenty of secular movies that could be played at a community event. but in the other direction, if you had 5% of people in your neighborhood who were offended by Disney because of their beliefs, and the HOA showed a Disney movie... Disney does not have a religious agenda.
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Post by rvasc on Apr 9, 2018 9:58:47 GMT -6
I feel like it's a little different when you are excluding 1 out of 20 families based on religion though. Besides, do Christians, especially kids, actually enjoy watching Christian movies for general entertainment? The popularity of Veggie Tales suggests that yes they do. My kid does sometimes.
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Post by piratecat on Apr 9, 2018 9:59:19 GMT -6
I would normally agree with this, but not when the 5% is being excluded due to their religious beliefs (yes, I know they aren't being "excluded" in the traditional sense of the word, but you know what I mean). There are plenty of secular movies that could be played at a community event. but in the other direction, if you had 5% of people in your neighborhood who were offended by Disney because of their beliefs, and the HOA showed a Disney movie... I think most people would agree that it makes the most sense to just show the Disney movie? Well if there was a Native American family in the community I probably wouldn't choose to play Pocahontas.
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Post by piratecat on Apr 9, 2018 10:00:27 GMT -6
I feel like it's a little different when you are excluding 1 out of 20 families based on religion though. Besides, do Christians, especially kids, actually enjoy watching Christian movies for general entertainment? The popularity of Veggie Tales suggests that yes they do. Oh right. I've never seen them but I have heard they are quite popular.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2018 10:01:11 GMT -6
I'm always looking for a way to get out of going to large group events, and this sounds like a perfect excuse...
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