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Post by inthekitty on Mar 22, 2018 12:53:27 GMT -6
Any of your kids have to take a Test (WPSSI??- not sure the correct letters ) to get in to pre-k or K? We were notified this past October that M had to have it to go into PK-4. They offered it during the school day and we got a letter the day after he was evaluated letting us know it took place. The results were all good. Just wondered if this was a nationwide thing or just school preferred. Not nationwide, they don't do it here. I live in a military community so they are used to suddenly getting an influx kids register a few days before school starts and just have to roll with the changes. They give the kids a packet with some learning games and a general list of skills they recommend the kids know ahead of time. It's basic stuff like counting and letter and number recognition. And if kids didn't know this stuff they still taught it in school so it wasn't a big deal. Maddie didn't really start learning anything new until maybe the third month of school when they started working more on developing reading skills. The first couple of months weren't a complete loss though because she was adjusting to school structure and being in class all day.
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Post by jewels on Mar 22, 2018 12:55:38 GMT -6
lahdeedah, S is in PreK at his Day Care so no testing. Not sure yet about what he will need to go to public K since he won't be going for another year. I haven't heard about this test though, so I don't think so Do you know what the test was?
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Post by mwhip on Mar 22, 2018 12:57:33 GMT -6
lahdeedah I'm not sure what it will take to release him, I'm going to run by the hospital after work and try to get some answers. With H back at work today, we're dependent on his SM to give us accurate information. cagoldi I doubt FIL or SMIL would ask, they're of the mentality that what your doctor tells you is always right, no questions. I seem to be the only one pushing back. I mean, FIL already said he's going back to the VA for the BP issue, and I think everyone else is convinced he is NOT going back to the VA for any major issues. I guess he had gone in 2-3 weeks ago because his BP was high then, they adjusted his meds and sent him home with a blood pressure cuff, telling him to check it twice a day. No follow up instructions, or at least that any of us are aware of. That seems to be a big thing with this entire situation. FIL goes to all medical appointments by himself, SMIL doesn't know his doctors name or what happens at appointments. So when he got to the ER, she couldn't report accurate information (although she did grab his medicine bottles). SMIL, even though I love her dearly, is a bit on the ditzy side and doesn't really understand everything that is being said. She should also wear hearing aids, which she only does about 50% of the time. Tuesday, when I was with her all day, she looked at me on several occasions and I had to repeat stuff to her. When a dr or nurse would leave the room, I'd have to repeat back what they said, as I understood it. I really wish H or I could be there 100% of the time to fully understand the situation.
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Post by joelies on Mar 22, 2018 12:58:57 GMT -6
lahdeedah - I think that's the test Col's pre-K does twice a year. I just remember being pretty surprised by just how wide a cover of topics it included. Today for his screening, he had to write his name a few times, draw a picture of himself, build something, count, and answer some questions. Aside from initially not wanting to go to an office with someone he hadn't met, he seemed to enjoy it.
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Post by mwhip on Mar 22, 2018 12:59:09 GMT -6
Also, no test here for pre-K (am I the only one who calls it preschool?). I guess I'll find out next month what the requirements are.
We keep telling Evie she needs to be able to wipe her own butt after she poops because the teacher won't do it for her. I feel like if that is complete by September, I'll be doing good!
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 22, 2018 13:07:46 GMT -6
mwhip I get it, we're going through the same thing with my grandma. I can't tell if it's just avoidance or a lack of understanding. She never worked in her life, and it seems like I notice a lot of women from her generation are/were so dependent on their husbands for absolutely everything and they don't think they can ask questions or know how to make sense of complex information. It's sad.
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Post by inthekitty on Mar 22, 2018 13:15:41 GMT -6
Also, no test here for pre-K (am I the only one who calls it preschool?). I guess I'll find out next month what the requirements are. We keep telling Evie she needs to be able to wipe her own butt after she poops because the teacher won't do it for her. I feel like if that is complete by September, I'll be doing good! I call it preschool. Next school year will be her second year of preschool and 1 extra day but still less than what her school considers "pre-k" (which is 5 1/2 days). It's all kind of the same to me. They're coloring, singing songs, counting, and enjoying snack time. Kindergarten is the first big definitive change in my eyes.
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Post by mwhip on Mar 22, 2018 13:26:40 GMT -6
mwhip I get it, we're going through the same thing with my grandma. I can't tell if it's just avoidance or a lack of understanding. She never worked in her life, and it seems like I notice a lot of women from her generation are/were so dependent on their husbands for absolutely everything and they don't think they can ask questions or know how to make sense of complex information. It's sad. I think the bolded is probably a bit of both. They just don't know to ask more questions, or that they can. I'm always surprised when I hear of older women who have never had to fill their car with gas, their husband's always do it for them. While it's sweet, it's kind of an important thing to be able to know how to do, in case something happens. And easy to learn, yes, but not something that you want to be put in the situation of sitting at the pump, wondering what to do and no one will help you.
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Post by cagoldi on Mar 22, 2018 13:33:48 GMT -6
I just sent my sister a video of me wearing a sheet mask pretending to be Hannibal Lecter. I hope she doesn't open it while she's still at work.
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Post by inthekitty on Mar 22, 2018 13:34:15 GMT -6
mwhip I get it, we're going through the same thing with my grandma. I can't tell if it's just avoidance or a lack of understanding. She never worked in her life, and it seems like I notice a lot of women from her generation are/were so dependent on their husbands for absolutely everything and they don't think they can ask questions or know how to make sense of complex information. It's sad. I think the bolded is probably a bit of both. They just don't know to ask more questions, or that they can. I'm always surprised when I hear of older women who have never had to fill their car with gas, their husband's always do it for them. While it's sweet, it's kind of an important thing to be able to know how to do, in case something happens. And easy to learn, yes, but not something that you want to be put in the situation of sitting at the pump, wondering what to do and no one will help you. And not to be morbid, but the reality is most women are likely to outlive their husbands, so having no understanding of how to accomplish basic tasks is scary because they'll be on their own someday. My step-Gma is a total bitch who never did a thing for herself. She can't handle even basic finances and wants to spend literally every cent she has and then some. With my parents trying to take over her affairs since her husband died 2 years ago it's been a mess. She can't handle even the most basic of adult tasks.
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Post by inthekitty on Mar 22, 2018 13:38:11 GMT -6
I just sent my sister a video of me wearing a sheet mask pretending to be Hannibal Lecter. I hope she doesn't open it while she's still at work. You adorable weirdo.
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Post by slenle on Mar 22, 2018 14:00:26 GMT -6
The kids went down for a nap 2 hours ago and I had to talk N into laying down for at least 30 minutes. She immediately fell asleep and is still sleeping. Then I debated between being productive or lazy... and fell asleep on the couch for an hour and a half. Oops! Now H is screaming at me to come get him. Between my extra cup of coffee and a nap i should have no problem staying awake for volleyball tonight!
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Post by trtlcrzy on Mar 22, 2018 14:06:31 GMT -6
Also, no test here for pre-K (am I the only one who calls it preschool?). I guess I'll find out next month what the requirements are. We keep telling Evie she needs to be able to wipe her own butt after she poops because the teacher won't do it for her. I feel like if that is complete by September, I'll be doing good! I call what H is currently in preschool. The name of her actual class next year is pre-k, but if I had wanted I could have sent her to another year in a preschool class. At her school there is a difference, pre-k seems to be more learning focused as opposed to play focused (I think. She had a book fee, I’m assuming for some workbooks).
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Post by kim22 on Mar 22, 2018 14:17:10 GMT -6
mwhip I get it, we're going through the same thing with my grandma. I can't tell if it's just avoidance or a lack of understanding. She never worked in her life, and it seems like I notice a lot of women from her generation are/were so dependent on their husbands for absolutely everything and they don't think they can ask questions or know how to make sense of complex information. It's sad. I think the bolded is probably a bit of both. They just don't know to ask more questions, or that they can. I'm always surprised when I hear of older women who have never had to fill their car with gas, their husband's always do it for them. While it's sweet, it's kind of an important thing to be able to know how to do, in case something happens. And easy to learn, yes, but not something that you want to be put in the situation of sitting at the pump, wondering what to do and no one will help you. They could just move to NJ.
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Post by kim22 on Mar 22, 2018 14:19:47 GMT -6
mwhip, my dad was in charge of my grandma's hospital visits and we never quite got the the whole story so my sister got my grandmother to add her to her emergency contacts so that my sister can call and talk directly to her nurse to clarify. Not sure if this is an option for your H.
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 22, 2018 14:21:02 GMT -6
mwhip I get it, we're going through the same thing with my grandma. I can't tell if it's just avoidance or a lack of understanding. She never worked in her life, and it seems like I notice a lot of women from her generation are/were so dependent on their husbands for absolutely everything and they don't think they can ask questions or know how to make sense of complex information. It's sad. I think the bolded is probably a bit of both. They just don't know to ask more questions, or that they can. I'm always surprised when I hear of older women who have never had to fill their car with gas, their husband's always do it for them. While it's sweet, it's kind of an important thing to be able to know how to do, in case something happens. And easy to learn, yes, but not something that you want to be put in the situation of sitting at the pump, wondering what to do and no one will help you. AKA my mother.
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Post by kim22 on Mar 22, 2018 14:22:46 GMT -6
T is in pre-k 3 this year and will be pre-k 4 next. Kindergarten has a screening but I'm not sure they really do much with the information unless there are big concerns. No one ever told me how DS1 or DD did on it. I was there in a gym but they moved table to table and met with a speech teacher, a kinder teacher, and a skills teacher and I wasn't right there with them.
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Post by inthekitty on Mar 22, 2018 14:27:51 GMT -6
T is in pre-k 3 this year and will be pre-k 4 next. Kindergarten has a screening but I'm not sure they really do much with the information unless there are big concerns. No one ever told me how DS1 or DD did on it. I was there in a gym but they moved table to table and met with a speech teacher, a kinder teacher, and a skills teacher and I wasn't right there with them. Yes I forgot, Maddie did this too. There was no "test" but they did have her move to a couple of different tables to complete basic activities. We got no feedback. I know they did not have 100% participation either and that was the closest to assessing their abilities. I don't even think they did much from whatever information they gleaned from this.
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Post by tallb on Mar 22, 2018 14:30:54 GMT -6
I'm confused by these assessments for k. I clearly have no idea what to do. I do remember visiting my Pre-K at a private school for that application decades ago...but I didn't think they did them for public. Also I'm having heart palpitations thinking of our N13 kids going to k.. ironic that j has been in full time care since 16 weeks, but k seems SO grown up to me. I am not ready to not ask the teacher a million questions about his day and if he pooped and tell me funny stories of his antics...
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Post by inthekitty on Mar 22, 2018 14:46:05 GMT -6
I'm confused by these assessments for k. I clearly have no idea what to do. I do remember visiting my Pre-K at a private school for that application decades ago...but I didn't think they did them for public. Also I'm having heart palpitations thinking of our N13 kids going to k.. ironic that j has been in full time care since 16 weeks, but k seems SO grown up to me. I am not ready to not ask the teacher a million questions about his day and if he pooped and tell me funny stories of his antics... I hear you. I did pretty good with most of the milestones. I'd get a bit misty about getting rid of certain clothes or toys, but for the most part was happy to be free of the clutter. I had no sadness about saying goodbye to bottles and binkies. But kindergarten man, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was an effing mess last spring through summer as Maddie was getting closer to K. Everyone said it'd be fine, and of course it was, but it's still been an adjustment and me having to accept my girls getting older. I still miss her on my Mondays off. I wish she had a kinder teacher (her teacher is somewhat cold, and from what Maddie describes kind of harsh and crabby). I also wish her teacher gave a lot more feedback. And artwork and schoolwork! I have no clue where it all goes. Cass brings home artwork by the bucket load from school and it's on rare occasions Maddie comes home with anything. There is only a tiny little note on her weekly homework packet that says what they're focusing on that week. I truly wondered what the hell they did all day the first couple of months when I couldn't see any academic development (because they were playing catch-up for other kids) and what Maddie said they did during the day did not match what was listed on their schedule. Patience was the key for me because as time went on I could see development in her reading skills when she surprised me and read her first book to me. Her penmanship improved. She'd sing songs from music class. She'd talk about being a "self-manager" and "living by the Eagle way" which is kind of adorable in a mini-cult for 4-footers way. It's hard for me to share so much of my girl's time with someone else as she now spends the bulk of her waking hours in school. The evenings go by too fast. The weekends as well but we fill them with quality time together. She is making friends, growing, and learning and it's awesome to see her develop as a little person and as a student. I know it'll be hard for me with Cass. She is my baby. I know she'll do just fine although she might have a tougher transition than Madison because she's an introvert, but at the end of the day I know it'll be okay. My Mondays will be a lot quieter and frankly lonely for a while until I get back to finding myself again and not "me and my girls." I'm not ready for it yet and glad I have one more year.
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Post by joelies on Mar 22, 2018 15:06:51 GMT -6
Damnit inthekitty , I'd gotten through this day without getting too emotional!! But seriously, what you said about Cass rang true for me because Colin certainly needs time to warm up. He did NOT want to go to the principal's office to do his assessment and fortunately the teacher was fine with me coming along. I snuck out as soon as he started his first picture and was quickly opening up to her, but it certainly makes me nervous about his actual first day. Fortunately they do 2 assessments at a time since the kids meet with a nurse and a teacher, and the other kid in his time slot was a girl from his class. I think that helped him get comfortable quicker, as well. Also they put the incoming kids' names up on a big window between the office and the hallway and before you leave, they ask the kids to find their names. Colin found his quickly and then we stuck around looking for his other friends' names. It was nice to see a good half dozen or so familiar names, both for us (me really) and for him.
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Post by flamingo on Mar 22, 2018 15:09:59 GMT -6
I remember being assessed for Kindergarten, but that was for private school admission. It was stuff like, "Can you count to 30?" etc. (I told the admissions lady, "I can count to 100!" And proceeded to. Poor admissions lady).
I don't know if FL does any sort of assessment; they have a state-funded voluntary Pre-kindergarten (VPK) program where you apply for/receive a voucher to use at any accredited program. It's open to everyone regardless of income, etc. They may do some sort of readiness assessment during that year, not sure.
Here in VA there is no similar program...you're on your own til K, so we'll have B in a private preschool 5 mornings/week next year. I believe there is some sort of "at-risk" program the public school system offers the summer before K; I'm not sure how one would get into that but would assume it's recommended maybe through social services or similar.
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Post by joelies on Mar 22, 2018 15:15:43 GMT -6
flamingo - We have no widespread pre-K or pre-school programs in CT either, which is actually the constant hold-up to changing the kindergarten eligibility age. Because there is such disparity between the cities and the (often freakishly) wealthy suburbs, we have one of the worst achievement gaps in the country. Most wealthier families red shirt their kids and apparently it's not unheard of for parents to petition for early entry for early January kids when they can't afford the childcare. So you've got older kids with a couple years of quality early education under their belt being compared to younger kids who were often babysat by older relatives and the TV. All the teachers we've talked to said not to worry, the issue isn't with kids like Colin... but he's my baby.
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Post by klong11 on Mar 22, 2018 15:22:59 GMT -6
I know! And I don't even like them ! My typical Starbucks order is so boring -- either at tall cold brew, or a grande lowfat flat white. Maybe once or twice during the holiday season I'll try a holiday spice or a peppermint mocha. You should try the iced cinnamon dolce latte. It’s my favorite. Cinnamon dolce is the best! It's my go to hot drink.
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Post by klong11 on Mar 22, 2018 15:29:03 GMT -6
Cadence didn't qualify for prek at the elementary school. It seemed like they view it more for ESL, military, and low income families. Unless I'm reading it wrong.
She is currently in prek at the preschool and then will move to the Apk class, which they have apparently renamed junior kindergarten.
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Post by flamingo on Mar 22, 2018 15:30:10 GMT -6
We got back not too long ago from the grocery store, JCrew and boat shoe-shopping for B. He is in a 13. That just seems huge but I guess when you're as tall as he is that's normal.
So JCrew had fidget spinners for sale and B begged for one; I gave him a choice of waiting for the Easter Bunny to bring it, or we could "split it". I asked him if the toy was worth $3 (his portion)...he looked over my shoulder to the sales guy like he was going to ask him, LOL. I said, "No, *you* have to decide if it's worth the money." He wanted the toy and when we got home, went right to his wallet and counted out 3 one's without a reminder.
He's been very eager lately to buy/pay for things so hopefully he learned something today?
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Post by kim22 on Mar 22, 2018 15:31:17 GMT -6
Forget kindergarten, my big boy starts middle school next year!
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Post by flamingo on Mar 22, 2018 15:42:53 GMT -6
Forget kindergarten, my big boy starts middle school next year! I feel like that's when you-know-what really gets real!! Middle school is what scares me most. Elementary, fine...high school, OK. But middle school...:shudder:
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Post by tgrimes on Mar 22, 2018 15:43:15 GMT -6
Cadence didn't qualify for prek at the elementary school. It seemed like they view it more for ESL, military, and low income families. Unless I'm reading it wrong. She is currently in prek at the preschool and then will move to the Apk class, which they have apparently renamed junior kindergarten. That's the way ours is too, for free pre-k. But they also have several slots for tuition based pre-k.
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Post by kim22 on Mar 22, 2018 16:33:07 GMT -6
Forget kindergarten, my big boy starts middle school next year! I feel like that's when you-know-what really gets real!! Middle school is what scares me most. Elementary, fine...high school, OK. But middle school...:shudder: Seeing how I worked in middle school the past 15 years, I should be ok but nope. Luckily, both vice principals of the school he will go to are friends of mine, one went to high school with me and the other used to teach with me.
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