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Post by yoginikiki on Jan 11, 2019 8:57:27 GMT -6
TBH they probably did find SOMETHING in computer forensics. Likely on her end. The other end was probably where things were masked/tricky. More than likely they did not want to release the information due to victim blaming and resulting lack of public support which is gross but probably.
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Post by mustardseed2007 on Jan 11, 2019 8:58:24 GMT -6
Yea this can’t be her fault even if she was involved. She’s a kid. Only 7 years older than mine. No way she could have foreseen what could happen. Exactly right. I don't know what the story is of course, but she is a victim whether she was being stalked or manipulated.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2019 8:58:28 GMT -6
also Jesus no on is saying she isn't a victim
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2019 8:59:18 GMT -6
TBH they probably did find SOMETHING in computer forensics. Likely on her end. The other end was probably where things were masked/tricky. More than likely they did not want to release the information due to victim blaming and resulting lack of public support which is gross but probably. Yep. If people thought she was involved in the actual shooting part and ran away they wouldn't look for her as hard.
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Post by yoginikiki on Jan 11, 2019 8:59:59 GMT -6
also Jesus no on is saying she isn't a victim I'm filing that this had to be said under "this place."
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jan 11, 2019 9:02:01 GMT -6
TBH they probably did find SOMETHING in computer forensics. Likely on her end. The other end was probably where things were masked/tricky. More than likely they did not want to release the information due to victim blaming and resulting lack of public support which is gross but probably. This wouldn't surprise me at all. Keeping that out is one way to keep people from being the reactionary cunts that they are. If this is the case, there would have been so many comments about how the parents failed at everything, deserved to die, Jayme should have known better, she got what was coming to her, and worse.
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Post by rvasc on Jan 11, 2019 9:02:15 GMT -6
also Jesus no on is saying she isn't a victim I was agreeing with the sentiment here. This is why my sentence started with “yea.”
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2019 9:02:57 GMT -6
also Jesus no on is saying she isn't a victim I was agreeing with the sentiment here. This is why my sentence started with “yea.” I hadn't even read yours yet to be honest. I was still on the other poster
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Post by cabbagecabbage on Jan 11, 2019 9:04:23 GMT -6
I'm not sure what you're saying here. I can't wrap my head around her getting involved in an online relationship. Any real life interaction they had isn't a relationship. It's a kidnapping and likely rape scenario. It's a predator and a victim. I'm not insinuating they have a "relationship." God no. Everything I read emphasized she was immature and family oriented. I'm not 100% sold she knew this person or why he was in her home. I am telling you to wrap your head around it because 13 year olds do have online relationships with older people. Hell they have IRL relationships with older people if they didn't we wouldn't have the R. Kelly and teachers being fired for sleeping with their student stories all the time. Yes, I know this. Sadly I've seen the effects of pedophiles and predators in the lives of a few people around me. I didn't phrase any of it well but I'm not going to dig my heels in. It's probably more wishful thinking that my gut said "I still think this killing is about other adults." I'm thinking about why my mind is pushing that narrative.
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Post by yoginikiki on Jan 11, 2019 9:05:21 GMT -6
I know we petition police departments not to release certain details when dealing with trafficking/torture information. It makes the reintegration portion/recovery process much more difficult to navigate. There is so so much self blame in so many cases. That can be very hard to overcome and can also significantly impact successful prosecution in some cases where victims are required to testify.
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Post by willow on Jan 11, 2019 9:05:54 GMT -6
I might be totally wrong when the truth finally all comes out but I definitely think, given that she's been found alive and had to escape her captor, the parents were simply collateral damage and she was 100% the target.
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Post by helenahhandbasket on Jan 11, 2019 9:07:12 GMT -6
TBH they probably did find SOMETHING in computer forensics. Likely on her end. The other end was probably where things were masked/tricky. More than likely they did not want to release the information due to victim blaming and resulting lack of public support which is gross but probably. Could not agree with this more.
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Post by GhoatMonket on Jan 11, 2019 9:12:58 GMT -6
I might be totally wrong when the truth finally all comes out but I definitely think, given that she's been found alive and had to escape her captor, the parents were simply collateral damage and she was 100% the target. Given the alleged suspect's age, I don't see this going any other way. If he was older, I could see it being about the parents. Even then it was probably still her.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2019 9:13:59 GMT -6
I might be totally wrong when the truth finally all comes out but I definitely think, given that she's been found alive and had to escape her captor, the parents were simply collateral damage and she was 100% the target. I agree
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Post by flojo on Jan 11, 2019 9:14:08 GMT -6
What time's the press conference? How long do I need to wait in EST? 10am central, 11am eastern Well I guess I need to freshen up on my time zones and geography. I definitely thought WI was way further west.
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Post by brux on Jan 11, 2019 9:15:43 GMT -6
10am central, 11am eastern Well I guess I need to freshen up on my time zones and geography. I definitely thought WI was way further west. lol. it's my neighbor to the east.
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Post by bobyn on Jan 11, 2019 9:23:10 GMT -6
I'm not sure what you're saying here. I can't wrap my head around her getting involved in an online relationship. Any real life interaction they had isn't a relationship. It's a kidnapping and likely rape scenario. It's a predator and a victim. I'm not insinuating they have a "relationship." God no. Everything I read emphasized she was immature and family oriented. I'm not 100% sold she knew this person or why he was in her home. You need to join us in this century. Like quickly. It's not 1995 when this is all new. This is very, very much a thing, at even younger ages from kids that think they are grown or want to act like they are. If you have children, you very much need to get your head out of the sand about this. I agree. Even in the late 90s, my 14-15yo sister started a relationship with some guy in England over the internet. This is definitely not new news.
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Post by flojo on Jan 11, 2019 9:27:33 GMT -6
I still can't wrap my head around this. 33 more minutes. The Sheriff better not be late.
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Post by flojo on Jan 11, 2019 9:28:29 GMT -6
Wasn't there information posted earlier that there were more people involved? I wonder if Jake's brother was involved as well.
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Post by angelashly on Jan 11, 2019 9:30:06 GMT -6
Wasn't there information posted earlier that there were more people involved? I wonder if Jake's brother was involved as well. I am thinking this too
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Post by gimmeaQ on Jan 11, 2019 9:31:57 GMT -6
do we think network TV will cover this? or should I stream a local channel?
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Post by brux on Jan 11, 2019 9:32:03 GMT -6
Jake's brother lived in a different state per his FB. But he hasn't posted new public stuff in a while, so that may be out of date.
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Post by brux on Jan 11, 2019 9:33:43 GMT -6
do we think network TV will cover this? or should I stream a local channel? could be on network tv, but I would plan to stream as a backup for sure. That Eau Claire news link would be a good one, as it's the "city" closest to Barron. But also, Fox9 www.fox9.com/news/jayme-closs-located-aliveor KSTP kstp.com/out of Minneapolis would be good ones as well.
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Post by macic on Jan 11, 2019 9:36:11 GMT -6
Jake's brother lived in a different state per his FB. But he hasn't posted new public stuff in a while, so that may be out of date. I was read somewhere that his gf FB page said they were back in WI. But I didn’t see it myself. (Also, she looks strangely similar to Jayme).
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Post by auburn on Jan 11, 2019 9:44:42 GMT -6
Is it Peterson or Patterson? Because if it’s peterson I’m starting to think don’t fall in love with a Peterson. This right here is the damn truth.
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Post by Sundae on Jan 11, 2019 9:46:14 GMT -6
100% agree. But a basement seems so different than a cabin with plenty houses around it that I’m assuming doesn’t even belong to him. Castro actually held at least one or two of them in upstairs bedrooms, in a house set very close to other houses, and regularly had guests. It can be done. Yup:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 9:46:18 GMT -6
I have shit to do but I want to know the deets. I will get down to business after this press conference.
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Post by McBenny on Jan 11, 2019 9:47:20 GMT -6
I feel like I saw this Lifetime movie. Teen gets involved with older guy that is bad news/psycho. Parents don't approve. They kill parents and run off. Teen escapes and is rescued. Police get guy for stat rape and kidnapping and determine she was lured and pressured due to her young age. She is granted immunity for testimony in his trial and conviction. Fast forward and police find evidence - diary, video, pictures where she was a willing participant and planned it all.
However, she cannot be prosecuted.
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Post by bobyn on Jan 11, 2019 9:50:23 GMT -6
I feel like I saw this Lifetime movie. Teen gets involved with older guy that is bad news/psycho. Parents don't approve. They kill parents and run off. Teen escapes and is rescued. Police get guy for stat rape and kidnapping and determine she was lured and pressured due to her young age. She is granted immunity for testimony in his trial and conviction. Fast forward and police find evidence - diary, video, pictures where she was a willing participant and planned it all. However, she cannot be prosecuted. Are you thinking of the Homolka case?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 9:53:28 GMT -6
I feel like I saw this Lifetime movie. Teen gets involved with older guy that is bad news/psycho. Parents don't approve. They kill parents and run off. Teen escapes and is rescued. Police get guy for stat rape and kidnapping and determine she was lured and pressured due to her young age. She is granted immunity for testimony in his trial and conviction. Fast forward and police find evidence - diary, video, pictures where she was a willing participant and planned it all. However, she cannot be prosecuted. Are you thinking of the Homolka case? I was just coming in to say this but couldn't remember her last name and wasn't about to guess.
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