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Post by twohopes on Nov 6, 2017 14:21:53 GMT -6
oh no happyin14, fingers crossed that maybe at least one grows.
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Post by sally on Nov 6, 2017 14:48:10 GMT -6
fikafairy, your tattoo is beautiful. I'm sorry your ILs suck. It's extra hard when the people who are supposed to back you no matter what are the ones that crap all over your feelings.
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Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 6, 2017 15:15:04 GMT -6
None have progressed to blastocysts. They are all 8 and 9 cells. They will give them one more day, but it doesn’t look good. happyin14, don’t give up. We had a couple we ended up freezing that were slow on day 6 and then were blastocysts by day 7.
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Post by skidevil87 on Nov 6, 2017 15:55:21 GMT -6
happyin14, I'll keep fingers crossed for you. Don't give up yet. Day 4 of stims today. E2 was already up to 227 so they are decreasing my Gonal F just a touch. I feel heavy, full, bloated, and achy. Bending over hurts. sitting up straight hurts. I think it's things starting to grow and interfering with my endometriomas and hydrosalpinx- not necessarily the size of my ovaries yet. I saw 8 follicles on the right, each measuring around 5, and then between 8-10 on the left all measuring about the same as well.
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Post by bonzo on Nov 6, 2017 16:22:26 GMT -6
happyin14, keeping everything crossed that your embryos keep growing! skidevil87, sounds like you have some good growth! I was bloated and achy too. Take it easy if you can, it's hard but it'll be over soon!
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Post by sally on Nov 6, 2017 17:57:26 GMT -6
happyin14 I'm sorry you didn't get a great update. I have everything crossed they keep growing and you get better news tomorrow.
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Post by twohopes on Nov 6, 2017 18:03:38 GMT -6
I had my baseline before hysterscopy on Friday and this month I have 14 AFC, last month it was 10. FSH is also lower (5.8 vs 6.4). So interesting how things can change month to month sometimes. Anyway, i do feel better about my ovarian reserve today, so I'll hold on to this.
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Post by happyin14 on Nov 6, 2017 18:11:52 GMT -6
None have progressed to blastocysts. They are all 8 and 9 cells. They will give them one more day, but it doesn’t look good. happyin14, don’t give up. We had a couple we ended up freezing that were slow on day 6 and then were blastocysts by day 7. You decided to freeze on day 6 even without them being blasts? Or they waited until day 7?
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Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 7, 2017 0:00:57 GMT -6
happyin14, don’t give up. We had a couple we ended up freezing that were slow on day 6 and then were blastocysts by day 7. You decided to freeze on day 6 even without them being blasts? Or they waited until day 7? No, they froze on day 7, and they went to blastocyst on day seven, not before. Fingers crossed for you. I know the waiting sucks!
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Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 7, 2017 0:03:26 GMT -6
Hi, ladies! I’m just sitting here on estrogen injections and suppositories. I have my final ultrasound Friday, and I’m nervous, because this time in September, my lining started getting thin. I’m praying the change in regimen helps and that i can start progesterone this weekend and transfer next week!!!! I’m starting to hit burnout( been doing treatments every other month since March), and I am hoping it works out for us.
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Post by happyin14 on Nov 8, 2017 11:05:16 GMT -6
I just got off the phone with my RE. First, she started by saying how sorry she was. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Then, she told me that she actually came to my retrieval (they have a rotating coverage practice and wasn't scheduled for mine) and that made me thankful. Mostly because she could answer some of my questions right away. They are going to discuss my case at their meeting on Monday - put all the doctors' heads on it.
But basically, she said that none of the best looking follicles yielded eggs which confused her. And she was upset that I only made it to 8 cell - because I probably get further along on my own. **Trigger (loss) My most recent losses have all been CP, so I'm not totally sure she's right about that. But I assume she knows. ***End Trigger
Anyway. I'm a little bummed that she doesn't feel more confident about moving forward. She said "If I'm not confident we can do better, I'm not going to try again." Which was sort of shocking to hear after only one attempt and one where I ovulated one egg mid-cycle. At the very least, I thought she'd say we'll keep you from ovulating better and see if that was the cause.
Meanwhile, my husband is also not sure we should try again. So I've been convincing him that we learned enough the first cycle to try again -- but if my RE doesn't think that's true. BLAH. I know that so many of you have been through so many cycles that me complaining about my first not working is trite. I'm actually not. I'm upset that my husband AND my RE aren't convinced I should keep going. Which just seems SO bizarre to me. Anyway. I'm sad today.
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Post by skidevil87 on Nov 8, 2017 11:19:03 GMT -6
I just got off the phone with my RE. First, she started by saying how sorry she was. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Then, she told me that she actually came to my retrieval (they have a rotating coverage practice and wasn't scheduled for mine) and that made me thankful. Mostly because she could answer some of my questions right away. They are going to discuss my case at their meeting on Monday - put all the doctors' heads on it. But basically, she said that none of the best looking follicles yielded eggs which confused her. And she was upset that I only made it to 8 cell - because I probably get further along on my own. **Trigger (loss) My most recent losses have all been CP, so I'm not totally sure she's right about that. But I assume she knows. ***End Trigger Anyway. I'm a little bummed that she doesn't feel more confident about moving forward. She said "If I'm not confident we can do better, I'm not going to try again." Which was sort of shocking to hear after only one attempt and one where I ovulated one egg mid-cycle. At the very least, I thought she'd say we'll keep you from ovulating better and see if that was the cause. Meanwhile, my husband is also not sure we should try again. So I've been convincing him that we learned enough the first cycle to try again -- but if my RE doesn't think that's true. BLAH. I know that so many of you have been through so many cycles that me complaining about my first not working is trite. I'm actually not. I'm upset that my husband AND my RE aren't convinced I should keep going. Which just seems SO bizarre to me. Anyway. I'm sad today. I'm sorry you are sad today. I'm sorry your RE was so vague. At some point I feel like she's being so honest with you- if she doesn't really feel comfortable moving forward- she's not sitting there filling you with false hope or wasting your money... right? At least that's what I'm getting from it. My husband and I actually decided early on that this was the only full IVF cycle we could afford for about 2 years, so we did decide if we can't get any good eggs/ embryos out of it, we won't be trying again.
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Post by bonzo on Nov 8, 2017 13:17:09 GMT -6
happyin14, I'm sorry this cycle didn't work out. Sending you lots of internet hugs! I am a little surprised that your RE isn't sure you should try again. I would think that they would want to try some changes to the protocol to keep you from ovulating through the antagonist. Have they had you on any supplements to help with egg quality? It may be worth looking into DHEA, CoQ10, etc as well. At this point, having been through 2 failed cycles myself, I'd recommend taking some time to recuperate emotionally, but also research questions to ask at your WTF appointment. If you have ideas of what you'd like to try, they may be more willing to take another look.
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Post by twohopes on Nov 8, 2017 15:25:39 GMT -6
happyin14, I am so sorry this cycle was unsuccessful and that your RE is not more confident and optimistic. I hope that she has more ideas and suggestions after she speaks with her colleagues.
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Post by jense927 on Nov 8, 2017 15:28:13 GMT -6
bananas22 congrats! So happy for you! happyin14, so sorry to hear about your advice from your RE. I’m very surprised to hear that. Even with our failed cycles (3) i’ve had two REs tell me to keep on going and we are so early in on the process. Today we questioned my new RE about what protocols she recommends for poor quality eggs/embryos (we are not sure this is our issue but with no embryos of good quality to test we are thinking maybe?) and she said she doesn’t think there is a magical cycle that sometimes it’s just persistence that is the reason for success. Our betas were negative as expected on the last cycle. We met today with our new RE. She seems really good so far. She is way more analytical than my previous RE which is right up my alley. So we went over the numbers and she thinks my last cycle was a fluke but we decided to try something different so we are going to do a lupron flare cycle. Started BCPs today and will be on for 10 days. Hopefully this cycle goes better than last.
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Post by bananas22 on Nov 8, 2017 18:46:01 GMT -6
**still lurking** jense927, I'm so sorry. I hope this cycle was just a fluke and your next is much better. Will you test your embryos this time around? Good luck!
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Post by sally on Nov 8, 2017 19:16:06 GMT -6
happyin14 I am so sorry. I'm also curious why your RE is so pessimistic about trying again. Wouldn't it be worth to try another protocol? Our first retrieval and results (including MH's reaction) sounds similar to yours, and out RE was all over trying a different protocol. Our next retrieval wasn't amazing, but it was wayyy better than the first. Let me know if you want more details, I don't want to make this about me any more than I already have. I hope your RE's colleagues Have some suggestions, and good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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Post by jense927 on Nov 8, 2017 20:19:53 GMT -6
**still lurking** jense927, I'm so sorry. I hope this cycle was just a fluke and your next is much better. Will you test your embryos this time around? Good luck! Yeah if we get enough embryos that is the plan. I would want more than 2 though to have it be worth the $$$
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Post by bananas22 on Nov 8, 2017 20:58:32 GMT -6
**still lurking** jense927, I'm so sorry. I hope this cycle was just a fluke and your next is much better. Will you test your embryos this time around? Good luck! Yeah if we get enough embryos that is the plan. I would want more than 2 though to have it be worth the $$$ Good luck! I hope you are pleasantly surprised this next cycle!
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Post by happyin14 on Nov 9, 2017 9:17:27 GMT -6
Thanks for all the support guys. And especially the shared surprise that we wouldn't do another one. I think my doctor is just trying to be very cautious and not get my hopes up. I think she feels a lot of responsibility to get me pregnant. It's not the first time I've had this after the loss of my son. I often get doctors who act differently or want to break rules or whatever. Part of me appreciates it and part of me doesn't. If I was just trying to have my first kid, give me that advice. jense927, my fingers are crossed that this cycle gives you different results. And I'm glad you like your new RE... As for keeping going, I sort of feel the same way. If we're looking for a needle in a haystack, ya gotta keep looking. And my cycle was wonky so like....let's try and have a cycle where I don't ovulate in the middle of it. Then let's talk about what didn't work. Meh. sally, I'm happy for all details. I don't think that makes it about you! bonzo, thanks for that. I'm not on any supplements but have been thinking about it lots. Especially DHEA. Anyway - thanks to all for the kind words. I really do feel silly being so needy after one cycle.
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Post by jense927 on Nov 9, 2017 11:27:10 GMT -6
happyin14 don't feel needy! We are all needy. This is such a rough path to walk down. And yes an N of 1 on your IVF doesn't exactly lead to conclusive evidence of anything!
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Post by sally on Nov 9, 2017 11:31:59 GMT -6
jense927 I'm sorry for the negative beta. It sounds like you have a solid plan. Good luck!
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Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 9, 2017 15:44:51 GMT -6
jense927, I’m so sorry:( hugs! happyin14, I would get a second opinion. That doesn’t make sense to give up on IVF after one round, particularly if your tests came back okay. Even then, there is still hope.
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Post by skidevil87 on Nov 10, 2017 12:08:30 GMT -6
Day 8 of stims, I have 16 on the right, some already around 20 while others are lagging behind at 10, then I have 12 on the left with the same issue. Estrogen is 1344 and I go in for my last monitoring appointment tomorrow morning. I'm sick of being poked and prodded. only 3-4 more days. I can do this.
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Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 10, 2017 15:54:48 GMT -6
I’m heartbroken and flipping out. I’ve hit a real wall. Today, my lining was at a six. It was at a 7 a week ago, and i haven’t ovulated. He is giving me until Tuesday to thicken up again, but I’m not hopeful, as this happened in September. I have four frozen blasts, but i don’t even know if i have it in me to continue. The meds, the appointments, the feeling alone, the money, it’s beginning to be too much.
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Post by sally on Nov 10, 2017 17:09:00 GMT -6
skidevil87 you've totally got this. Everything crossed for a great last check and an amazing retrieval! hoosiermama76, LT for hugs, not because I like your update. Did the RE say anything about why your lining would thin? Here's hoping you get good news on Tuesday. It seems like nothing is easy about this process.
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Post by bonzo on Nov 10, 2017 17:12:59 GMT -6
My parents are visiting for my birthday this weekend, so I haven't been able to get online to start a new check in. I'll get one up when I get the chance! In the meantime, sending hugs to hoosiermama76, hoping you get some good news and you're able to make it to transfer!
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Post by twohopes on Nov 10, 2017 17:18:55 GMT -6
All clear from my hysteroscopy!
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Post by happyin14 on Nov 10, 2017 20:37:24 GMT -6
hoosiermama76, I am SO sorry. So f’in unfair. I’m gonna google voodoo tricks to make it thicken up. I’m sure that will yield amazing results.
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Post by hoosiermama76 on Nov 10, 2017 23:57:28 GMT -6
skidevil87 you've totally got this. Everything crossed for a great last check and an amazing retrieval! hoosiermama76, LT for hugs, not because I like your update. Did the RE say anything about why your lining would thin? Here's hoping you get good news on Tuesday. It seems like nothing is easy about this process. Thanks, sally. There is no explanation. My estrogen is high and progesterone is low, so i haven’t ovulated. Very strange. I’m just praying now:-)
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