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Post by muscari on Oct 6, 2017 12:23:55 GMT -6
Gotcha and yeah that was what I was thinking but also hoping it would be NBD since she nurses so often and it is just one small (gave her just over 1oz this time - as that was what I had left from one stores bottle) bottle 30min after nursing. So how about pumping after nursing once or twice a day? Does that cause oversupply to where it may bother me or cause issues somehow? She slept 5h overnight and when I woke up my boobs were rock hard and painful. She drank right side first then left side but fell back asleep before it was "empty" so to speak. I felt a lot of hard bumps still so decided to pump and got 3oz just from the left side (and another oz from the right). But thinking back maybe i should have pumped just long enough to release discomfort? Heck this EBF and pumping stuff is complicated! Pumping after nursing can definitely lead to oversupply if your supply is fine as is. I’ve been pumping once a day in the morning in order to build a freezer stash and I just noticed today that the amount I pump is increasing a bit (I’ve been doing it for a week now). I know I have an oversupply, but again, I want to build my stash so I’m ok with it. If that’s not your goal, then I wouldn’t pump to relieve discomfort - I would only hand express. You know... I have no clue how to hand express - seems complicated but a handy skill to have so I guess I best figure it out 😊 Re oversupply.. originally I pumped to get my milk supply up but now I pump (or try to anyway, I don't always manage to fit it in with how demanding - and awake like all day time - D can be) to build up a freezer stash for when I am out, and to supplement occasionally. I usually manage to pump mornings tho occasionally I pump some before bedtime instead. I guess maybe in order to stop being engorged in the am I need to stop pumping before bed (?). So you pump just once a day in the am?
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Post by muscari on Oct 6, 2017 12:25:59 GMT -6
My next door neighbor is having some trees cut down. The trees are right next to our house and I keep hearing what I assume are branches hitting my house. I guess that’s inevitable, but I’m worried something will go wrong and damage my house. Also, I’m sitting right on that side of the house in our living room so it’s super loud. I would move, but, this is where the tv is 😆 Aaah good luck with the noise and I hope all goes smoothly taking down those trees. I too would be worried about accidental damage to my house! Even tho I am sure they are insured the hassle would just suck!
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Post by jexxa on Oct 6, 2017 13:05:52 GMT -6
Pumping after nursing can definitely lead to oversupply if your supply is fine as is. I’ve been pumping once a day in the morning in order to build a freezer stash and I just noticed today that the amount I pump is increasing a bit (I’ve been doing it for a week now). I know I have an oversupply, but again, I want to build my stash so I’m ok with it. If that’s not your goal, then I wouldn’t pump to relieve discomfort - I would only hand express. You know... I have no clue how to hand express - seems complicated but a handy skill to have so I guess I best figure it out 😊 Re oversupply.. originally I pumped to get my milk supply up but now I pump (or try to anyway, I don't always manage to fit it in with how demanding - and awake like all day time - D can be) to build up a freezer stash for when I am out, and to supplement occasionally. I usually manage to pump mornings tho occasionally I pump some before bedtime instead. I guess maybe in order to stop being engorged in the am I need to stop pumping before bed (?). So you pump just once a day in the am? It’s possible that the pumping is leading to engorgement in the AM, but more than likely it could just be that your supply hasn’t regulated yet. Your supply is always highest in the morning so that’s when you would be most likely to feel engorged. P’s schedule is starting to become predictable. I know she’ll wake up around 6-6:30 to nurse, then go back to sleep. She’ll wake up again around 8-9, so I’ll nurse her again. Shortly thereafter is when I pump because I know my supply is still relatively high. Then she usually wants to nurse again, then she takes her first nap. I’m sure I could pump in the evening instead when H is home, but she likes to nurse more often then and I know my supply isn’t as high, so I more than likely won’t pump as much.
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Post by king26 on Oct 6, 2017 13:13:36 GMT -6
Quick question...do you think I should stop tracking everything? Do you think it would help my anxiety? I feel like I need to know but will it hurt if I don't know when he sleeps? How much he eats? Should I track it? I track everything but wonder if it is hurting my anxiety more then helping it.
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Post by kristyw on Oct 6, 2017 13:35:31 GMT -6
king26 I stopped tracking this week. I'm enjoying not tracking. I say give it a shot. If it's not helping your anxiety or making it worse, you can always start again.
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Post by cali on Oct 6, 2017 14:37:08 GMT -6
king26, that is exactly why I do not track. It gives me anxiety. I definitely think you should try stopping and see how it goes. If something is truly wrong you will notice.
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Post by jt2378 on Oct 6, 2017 16:06:48 GMT -6
You know... I have no clue how to hand express - seems complicated but a handy skill to have so I guess I best figure it out 😊 Re oversupply.. originally I pumped to get my milk supply up but now I pump (or try to anyway, I don't always manage to fit it in with how demanding - and awake like all day time - D can be) to build up a freezer stash for when I am out, and to supplement occasionally. I usually manage to pump mornings tho occasionally I pump some before bedtime instead. I guess maybe in order to stop being engorged in the am I need to stop pumping before bed (?). So you pump just once a day in the am? It’s possible that the pumping is leading to engorgement in the AM, but more than likely it could just be that your supply hasn’t regulated yet. Your supply is always highest in the morning so that’s when you would be most likely to feel engorged. P’s schedule is starting to become predictable. I know she’ll wake up around 6-6:30 to nurse, then go back to sleep. She’ll wake up again around 8-9, so I’ll nurse her again. Shortly thereafter is when I pump because I know my supply is still relatively high. Then she usually wants to nurse again, then she takes her first nap. I’m sure I could pump in the evening instead when H is home, but she likes to nurse more often then and I know my supply isn’t as high, so I more than likely won’t pump as much. Oh hello twin, pretty much on the same schedule! I haven't been pumping much though but was thinking I should start when she takes the first nap
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Post by jexxa on Oct 6, 2017 16:10:07 GMT -6
It’s possible that the pumping is leading to engorgement in the AM, but more than likely it could just be that your supply hasn’t regulated yet. Your supply is always highest in the morning so that’s when you would be most likely to feel engorged. P’s schedule is starting to become predictable. I know she’ll wake up around 6-6:30 to nurse, then go back to sleep. She’ll wake up again around 8-9, so I’ll nurse her again. Shortly thereafter is when I pump because I know my supply is still relatively high. Then she usually wants to nurse again, then she takes her first nap. I’m sure I could pump in the evening instead when H is home, but she likes to nurse more often then and I know my supply isn’t as high, so I more than likely won’t pump as much. Oh hello twin, pretty much on the same schedule! I haven't been pumping much though but was thinking I should start when she takes the first nap I seriously love that you and I twin on pretty much everything 😄
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Post by jexxa on Oct 6, 2017 16:27:24 GMT -6
Quick question...do you think I should stop tracking everything? Do you think it would help my anxiety? I feel like I need to know but will it hurt if I don't know when he sleeps? How much he eats? Should I track it? I track everything but wonder if it is hurting my anxiety more then helping it. I would stop. IIRC everything looked good at his 1 month checkup, correct? I would only still track if there was some sort of issue. I guarantee the tracking is contributing to your anxiety. You gotta take care of yourself too, girlfriend ❤️
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Post by muscari on Oct 6, 2017 16:59:20 GMT -6
Quick question...do you think I should stop tracking everything? Do you think it would help my anxiety? I feel like I need to know but will it hurt if I don't know when he sleeps? How much he eats? Should I track it? I track everything but wonder if it is hurting my anxiety more then helping it. Echoing what others have said as well. I think it is definitely worth a try to stop tracking and see if it helps with your anxiety. 💛 And your Q made me stop and think. I track like it's my job and I wonder whether perhaps I should just stop as well. I forget sometimes and when I realize I feel all stressed. I keep thinking I have to track nursing sessions and diaper etc but when I think of it.... i won't do anything different if i do not track. Will still feed het on demand. Will still change her daipers etcetc. So apart it feeding my want to know it all and possibly my anxiety it is no longer really necessary. Maybe i should challenge myself not to track for a couple days and see how that feels... 😊
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Post by king26 on Oct 6, 2017 17:04:59 GMT -6
Quick question...do you think I should stop tracking everything? Do you think it would help my anxiety? I feel like I need to know but will it hurt if I don't know when he sleeps? How much he eats? Should I track it? I track everything but wonder if it is hurting my anxiety more then helping it. Echoing what others have said as well. I think it is definitely worth a try to stop tracking and see if it helps with your anxiety. 💛 And your Q made me stop and think. I track like it's my job and I wonder whether perhaps I should just stop as well. I forget sometimes and when I realize I feel all stressed. I keep thinking I have to track nursing sessions and diaper etc but when I think of it.... i won't do anything different if i do not track. Will still feed het on demand. Will still change her daipers etcetc. So apart it feeding my want to know it all and possibly my anxiety it is no longer really necessary. Maybe i should challenge myself not to track for a couple days and see how that feels... 😊 Let's stop together just for a few days and see how it feels
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Post by muscari on Oct 6, 2017 22:48:55 GMT -6
So MH and I&D have slept in seperate rooms for the past weeks (except for the first week after coming home from the hospital) and I have been soloing all nights so he gets his rest for work etc. We miss sleeping together and MH also would like to contribute to the MOTN stuff some we decided last week that on those nights where MH doesn't need to get up early for work we'd all sleep in the same room. Like tonight. We both been looking forward to this all week!
She has no problem sleeping in her bassinet here as she fell asleep in there after her late night feed just fine and slept beautifully for 5h. Lately she easily fall back asleep after her MOTN feeding and we'd both sleep a cple more hours at least. But tonight she just stays wide awake and won't be put back in bed. And I just don't understand. Is it the different room or just coincidence?? The same happened both previous nights upstairs as well. Coincidence I am sure but urrgh. Guess this time it may be growth spurt and/or next leap prep related?? It is frustrating tho. I told MH about how well these past nights have gone and then the night we all sleep together this.
Eta 2h30m later she is finally asleep again. These MOTN sessions really take too long. MH miraculously slept through most of the fussyness?? Omg i don't know how he does that!! Also lol @ his "I will do her MOTN changes So you don't have to get up and can just feed her". You have to be more awake and quicker then! Work in progress I guess.. for me to let things go and actively ask him if he isnt quick enough / to not think Ahh I will go do it and for him to realize he needs to step up s little here and there if we want to make shared MOTNs work. Ditto for during the evenings after work btw.. i have trouble letting go of howI am used to do things during my solo times with her.
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Post by muscari on Oct 6, 2017 22:51:16 GMT -6
Echoing what others have said as well. I think it is definitely worth a try to stop tracking and see if it helps with your anxiety. 💛 And your Q made me stop and think. I track like it's my job and I wonder whether perhaps I should just stop as well. I forget sometimes and when I realize I feel all stressed. I keep thinking I have to track nursing sessions and diaper etc but when I think of it.... i won't do anything different if i do not track. Will still feed het on demand. Will still change her daipers etcetc. So apart it feeding my want to know it all and possibly my anxiety it is no longer really necessary. Maybe i should challenge myself not to track for a couple days and see how that feels... 😊 Let's stop together just for a few days and see how it feels Ahhhhh you know just the thought of not tracking already makes me nervous right now lol.. guess that only means not tracking would prolly be a wise decision . I will double check with MH! Tho pretty sure he will be all yes go for it. ☺
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Post by thinkchocolate05 on Oct 7, 2017 1:09:40 GMT -6
muscari Yay that sleeping in the same room sort of worked. I feel like they are at the stage where they make you think they are in a routine and then change it up once you are comfortable! Baby H gave be me a lovely 2-hr daytime nap two days in a row, so the third day, I decided I would do some baking for a fall festival during his nap--of course, he didn't nap two hours that time. I still track breast feeding bc that makes me less nervous so that I can know I'm feeding every three hours. I don't track sleeping bc it makes me extremely nervous since I feel like he's not sleeping like he should. I tracked sleeping with DS1, and I would literally cry after recording a 20 minute nap and then Google all kinds of sleep solutions. I think you just have to find the level of tracking (maybe none at all!!) That makes you feel most assured.
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Post by king26 on Oct 7, 2017 1:40:39 GMT -6
The visit with my parents was good. They held the baby for 6 hours pretty much and I just chilled. He slept so much with tgem, my dad is the kid whisperer, tgatvi thought jbwould be up all night.so far he slept 2.5 hours and over 3. Now I wonder has he been overtired and not sleeping and with all the sleep yesterday it helped???
Anyhow it was good to see them. I told them I was having some trouble, they assured me I was doing everything right and that j is normal. They come back in 3 weeks for an overnight visit and will watch j while DH and I go to dinner. J will be 2 months and it will be our first time leaving him.
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Post by addymac on Oct 7, 2017 3:55:38 GMT -6
king26 I'm so glad your visit w your parents went so well!! And YAY to J sleeping with them and now. 🙌🏼 Today we fly to visit DHs grandparents. Fkights at 8am. I'm a but nervous. And just exhausted already. We fly home tomorrow night. Shortest trip ever but it's the only weekend in 2017 that DH can leave town and has off from work that we can go and his gparents are 90, so we decided they need to meet N. what if something happens before February and they never get to meet him? So quick trip. Yawn.
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Post by muscari on Oct 7, 2017 5:48:21 GMT -6
addymac hope travel goes smoothly and you have a lovely visit!
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Post by muscari on Oct 7, 2017 5:48:49 GMT -6
king26 happy to read your parents visit was so nice!
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Post by king26 on Oct 7, 2017 6:16:44 GMT -6
Does anyone throw baby in bed with them in the morning to get an extra 30 minutes of sleep? I get so nervousndoing it but he will sleep extra if I put him up in bed with us. I only do it in the morning and never for ling but I've done it twice this week now
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Post by thinkchocolate05 on Oct 7, 2017 6:42:24 GMT -6
Does anyone throw baby in bed with them in the morning to get an extra 30 minutes of sleep? I get so nervousndoing it but he will sleep extra if I put him up in bed with us. I only do it in the morning and never for ling but I've done it twice this week now king26 I bring him into bed to snuggle/rest if I'm going to be awake but not if I'm going back to sleep. We are not set up for safe co-sleeping, though. I might if we were but it makes me too nervous as is.
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Post by jt2378 on Oct 7, 2017 7:18:17 GMT -6
Does anyone throw baby in bed with them in the morning to get an extra 30 minutes of sleep? I get so nervousndoing it but he will sleep extra if I put him up in bed with us. I only do it in the morning and never for ling but I've done it twice this week now Yes. After she wakes around 6:00-6:30 I feed her and hold her near my side and doze for usually a couple hours. I'm a super light sleeper though so it doesn't worry me too much
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Post by kristyw on Oct 7, 2017 8:46:04 GMT -6
king26 E slept next to me for the first 4 hours last night. She wouldn't sleep anywhere else. I don't love doing it, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
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Post by king26 on Oct 7, 2017 10:13:34 GMT -6
I get a little panicky doing it but I put my arm under his head so thete is no way I can roll on him without breaking my shoulder but I worry about the blankets and DH but like you said, sometimes you have to do it.
Hea now fighting sleep like crazy. He's been up almost 2 hours. That's like his maximum before he totally melts down. I hope DH gets him to sleep soon. He looks like he is going.
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Post by cali on Oct 7, 2017 10:18:46 GMT -6
Another sleepless night for Mariah (and me). Ugh! MH just got home from work and he is giving her a bottle and trying to get her to nap while I'm pumping. I really hope she sleeps so I can nap too. I have another test on Tuesday and I of course need to study but I'm too tired to even focus on anything.
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Post by cali on Oct 7, 2017 10:20:32 GMT -6
Does anyone throw baby in bed with them in the morning to get an extra 30 minutes of sleep? I get so nervousndoing it but he will sleep extra if I put him up in bed with us. I only do it in the morning and never for ling but I've done it twice this week now I have done this out of desperation but it makes me so nervous that I don't really sleep well. I'm considering getting a dock a tot or something like that but they're so expensive and I don't even know if she'd sleep in it. She does sleep really well next to me in bed so maybe it would work.
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Post by king26 on Oct 7, 2017 10:42:35 GMT -6
Another sleepless night for Mariah (and me). Ugh! MH just got home from work and he is giving her a bottle and trying to get her to nap while I'm pumping. I really hope she sleeps so I can nap too. I have another test on Tuesday and I of course need to study but I'm too tired to even focus on anything. I'm sorry you aren't getting any sleep. That zombie state is so hard. I really hope these babies start sleeping soon. Do you have family nearby that could help while you nap? I can't remember and it's frustrating to be so sleep deprived.
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Post by king26 on Oct 7, 2017 10:44:11 GMT -6
Does anyone throw baby in bed with them in the morning to get an extra 30 minutes of sleep? I get so nervousndoing it but he will sleep extra if I put him up in bed with us. I only do it in the morning and never for ling but I've done it twice this week now I have done this out of desperation but it makes me so nervous that I don't really sleep well. I'm considering getting a dock a tot or something like that but they're so expensive and I don't even know if she'd sleep in it. She does sleep really well next to me in bed so maybe it would work. I've looked into this for the same.reason. I hate sleeping with him in the bed and have now done it 3 times total for an hour or less each time but it makes me nervous. J loves it but if something happened I'd never get over it. I'm not sure he would sleep in the rock a tot either because I think he likes the body contact when sleeping not the bed
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Post by cali on Oct 7, 2017 11:10:15 GMT -6
king26, I think M likes the body contact/snuggling too. But I am so tired I don't feel safe with her like that! Also, I do have my mom nearby and she has helped a lot but she is out of town this week!!
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Post by cali on Oct 7, 2017 11:31:28 GMT -6
I'm trying to nap in the guest bedroom while MH is sleeping in our room with M. I can hear that she's awake and hear him trying to shush her but I'm pretending I'm asleep and don't hear it cuz I need a break and don't want to go get her. I feel bad cuz mh worked all night but not bad enough to get up.
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Post by thinkchocolate05 on Oct 7, 2017 11:44:58 GMT -6
Good luck cali! I hope M sleeps so that you can get some rest and have time to study.
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